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[The39thStep]

I suspect that his election campaign , if it ever happens, will be a spectacular failure not because of whatever the Liverpool Echo has to say , or whether the far right are split but simply because he won't have built anything on the ground.

 

[malatesta32]

writing a memoir calling yourself the 'Nazi Assassin' was in hindsight, foolish. he is well known round Nogsy so why he's campaigning in another area is odd as it's where he lives with his mum.

 

[The39thStep]

writing a memoir calling yourself the 'Nazi Assassin' was in hindsight, foolish. he is well known round Nogsy so why he's campaigning in another area is odd as it's where he lives with his mum.

He explains why on one of his videos

 

[malatesta32]

i cant watch them anymore. however, things getting lively in Bristol:
Village hall rocked by 'anti-fascist gun raid' on far right group

 

[CNT36]

Stephen had some fun last night - Zelo Street: Tommy Robinson Calls

Tommy Robinson Calls


As many of you will know by now, the Zelo Street house had an unexpected - and unwanted - visitor last night. In fact, there were three visitors: former EDL head man Tommy Robinson, aka Stephen Yaxley Lennon, plus two of his pals. Why Robinson should need to turn up on someone else’s doorstep in dead of night with two accomplices I will leave to others to draw their own conclusions.


Tommy Robinson

That Robinson’s appearance was designed to intimidate cannot be in any doubt: there was loud and persistent banging at the front door, high-intensity lights were shone into the front windows, and when I went to see what was kicking off - it wasn’t going to be an election canvasser or the Witnesses at 2200 hours - one of those high-intensity lights was shone into my face as Robinson introduced himself.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I'd be surprised if he goes back again tonight. That's basically an offer for antifascists to lie in wait.

 

[Red Sky]

Stephen had some fun last night - Zelo Street: Tommy Robinson Calls

What's Zelo street? Who is it that Tommy was visiting?

 

[cantsin]

I'd be surprised if he goes back again tonight. That's basically an offer for antifascists to lie in wait.

would be nice if someone had another go at knocking a bit of sense into Tommy mk # 3 at some point soon, this 'turning up at peoples house' shctick is getting old already

 

[not-bono-ever]

Tommy R will be in Sunderland on the 13th May for a March with the usual suspects - Justice for Chelsey march - A pretty unpleasant tale from all aspects if anyone has been following it

 

[Magnus McGinty]

It's difficult to oppose because of the nature of the case and the strong local feelings about it. In fact it'd be something they have right if it wasn't the fact the only reason they're bothered is because it involves brown skinned perps and a white victim.

 

[cantsin]

It's difficult to oppose because of the nature of the case and the strong local feelings about it. In fact it'd be something they have right if it wasn't the fact the only reason they're bothered is because it involves brown skinned perps and a white victim.

have only read the few details out there, and seen no response from the OB or anyone repping the accused - but if as cut and dry as it seems, would be madness to oppose the march, arguably it should be supported, despite TR's involvement.

A

 

[Magnus McGinty]

have only read the few details out there, and seen no response from the OB or anyone repping the accused - but if as cut and dry as it seems, would be madness to oppose the march, arguably it should be supported, despite TR's involvement.

A

Yep, that's the general consensus.

 

[Pickman's model]

I suspect that his election campaign , if it ever happens, will be a spectacular failure not because of whatever the Liverpool Echo has to say , or whether the far right are split but simply because he won't have built anything on the ground.

So far so good

 

[not-bono-ever]

tis a difficult one- the OB have said nothing and no charges yet made- locals are up in arms about this, especially as the woman has gone public and been interviewed by on film TR ( I think ). This may not help the case if it gets to court.

 

[Ranbay]

Have you seen this bollocks?

 

[The39thStep]

Little more than a stunt tbh. Audience very limited to Twitter

 

[Magnus McGinty]

That Rebel TV has quite a big audience.

 

[Ranbay]

There was another one where him and Britain first storm a book shop. It's piss funny


He must be skint again

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Little more than a stunt tbh. Audience very limited to Twitter

50k views. This one is just shy of a million though.

 

[DaveCinzano]

50k views. This one is just shy of a million though.

Sneak!

I thought Wetherspoons were supposed to be like the EDL equivalent of a safe harbour

 

[The39thStep]

50k views. This one is just shy of a million though.

Almost as many as a video of goats balancing on a ball and about as much impact in the real world.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Almost as many as a video of goats balancing on a ball and about as much impact in the real world.

Perhaps so. But what's the left's equivalent? Novara Media which struggles to get beyond 5k views per film?

 

[The39thStep]

Perhaps so. But what's the left's equivalent? Novara Media which struggles to get beyond 5k views per film?

Good question. There probably is a role for short snappy media, in your face facts etc . Normally it's the alt right or the far right that are better at that. Having said that you only have to look at Momentum for a project built on the sands of social media. The EDL had some success because they used social media to bring out a base in the streets but then failed to build a political infrastructure .

 

[DotCommunist]

bring back the trews

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I avoided using Brand as an example but it probably is one.

 

[MightyTibberton]

Someone who was a victim of GamerGate - which is almost the foundational moment for this whole thing - claims that the Alt-Right game Google, YouTube and social media with fake views/likes and other SEO tricks. They certainly use bots on Twitter. The operating principles of social media are "this is popular, this must be good", and "you like this, people who like this also like this, so here is this" and it is, I believe, relatively easy to manipulate those systems. I've seen in my own internet use, how I can quite aimlessly end up in a sewer of extremist views - the best example is how taking an interest in meditation on YouTube led to Sam Harris (who's written a book on meditation), and not long after I'm in serious Islamophobia territory and you can easily go onwards from there.

Have you seen the Guardian article on similar sorts of shenanigans?

The great British Brexit robbery: how our democracy was hijacked

I left Facebook the day before the Brexit vote because of the way it was going. I saw friends who were Leavers - and not racist in my (sometimes limited) experience of them - go through a sort of radicalisation process in the stuff they were posting links to. I think it was that period of time that I was introduced to Breitbart, a whole host of yer actual famous Fake News! stuff, and the like.

Kids have smart phones from, what age...? And they're getting all their news that way. And the right is winning in that area. Breitbart is by far the most popular news site on Facebook. The right does incredibly well on Twitter. Reddit... 4Chan... Some of the talk of what they've achieved is self-mythologising; some is - I believe - based on dodgy numbers; but they have a huge new platform and they are making very effective use of it, and using it to pull themselves into mainstream media and into mainstream political life. I've interacted with young people online - in forums and comments - who have a completely different set of facts.

I'm not sure what the answer is, but in production values, style, and often content, they are doing very well online at the moment. I think the left should start to play the same game by the same rules. And quickly to be honest.

 

[ddraig]

this about French election (from 10 April)
US internet 'warriors' send racially charged symbols to France - BBC News

 

[RD2003]

Someone who was a victim of GamerGate - which is almost the foundational moment for this whole thing - claims that the Alt-Right game Google, YouTube and social media with fake views/likes and other SEO tricks. They certainly use bots on Twitter. The operating principles of social media are "this is popular, this must be good", and "you like this, people who like this also like this, so here is this" and it is, I believe, relatively easy to manipulate those systems. I've seen in my own internet use, how I can quite aimlessly end up in a sewer of extremist views - the best example is how taking an interest in meditation on YouTube led to Sam Harris (who's written a book on meditation), and not long after I'm in serious Islamophobia territory and you can easily go onwards from there.

Have you seen the Guardian article on similar sorts of shenanigans?

The great British Brexit robbery: how our democracy was hijacked

I left Facebook the day before the Brexit vote because of the way it was going. I saw friends who were Leavers - and not racist in my (sometimes limited) experience of them - go through a sort of radicalisation process in the stuff they were posting links to. I think it was that period of time that I was introduced to Breitbart, a whole host of yer actual famous Fake News! stuff, and the like.

Kids have smart phones from, what age...? And they're getting all their news that way. And the right is winning in that area. Breitbart is by far the most popular news site on Facebook. The right does incredibly well on Twitter. Reddit... 4Chan... Some of the talk of what they've achieved is self-mythologising; some is - I believe - based on dodgy numbers; but they have a huge new platform and they are making very effective use of it, and using it to pull themselves into mainstream media and into mainstream political life. I've interacted with young people online - in forums and comments - who have a completely different set of facts.

I'm not sure what the answer is, but in production values, style, and often content, they are doing very well online at the moment. I think the left should start to play the same game by the same rules. And quickly to be honest.

These days the right seems kind of exciting, while the left seems dull, and in its present majority form-now that it has pretty much given up on changing the economic system in favour of lifestyle politics (yes, generalising, I know but...)-a bit like the finger-wagging, right-on teacher telling you how your attitudes are all wrong.

 

[malatesta32]

SDL = NAZIS:
Nazi salutes and greetings for Hitler - cops must get tough on fascist brothers

 

[sim667]

Whitchurch man, 24, punched his partner as she gave birth in hospital

A new father from Whitchurch punched his partner while she was in a hospital delivery room giving birth to their child, a court heard.

Its relative to this thread because:

The court heard Davies had previously been jailed for assault when he was a member of the English Defence League, threatening behaviour at an EDL demonstration and a football banning order for being on Shrewsbury Town’s pitch while in possession of a firework.

Nasty piece of shit