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Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
socialist unity reports a uaf meeting was attacked in Brighton
http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=7953
http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=7953
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Dhimmi
Half Man Half HobNob
It'd be interesting to see some consistancy which didn't include an element of self-loathing. Elsewhere on here acts of murder by one religious group is blamed on another religious group, but this "political" group (born of the actions of a minority of a religious group) is held to blame for everything. Mud slinging is fun but that's all it is, but when it comes to gaining popular support for slinging mud the EDL are winning the game, and all that nonsense about "becoming your enemy to defeat them" or even the ridiculous "fight fire with fire" isn't working and won't work. The key is not to be seen to stick up for the percieved enemy, and defining a group as a much hated & long dead enemy which none of us fought against won't work, no matter how delightful and righteous that might make us feel. Action needs to be taken to address the actual drama we face, not relegate it to a simplistic melodrama fought by web warriors.
Eh? Can you explain what you mean in laymans terms cos I didn't get what you meant. Ta.
The Black Hand
Unclean
PlaidDragon
We don't need money to have a good time
This has to be the best thing I've ever seen. Someone on the EDL page put this comment in reply to the 'Muslamic Ray Guns' video someone had posted up:
'Camo Kev Saxon Not really into this electronic rap music shite but agree with the sentiments completely. Nice one pal
We Want Britain To Be Back British. This should get to number one not that bilge the youth of today listen to
6 minutes ago'
'Camo Kev Saxon Not really into this electronic rap music shite but agree with the sentiments completely. Nice one pal
We Want Britain To Be Back British. This should get to number one not that bilge the youth of today listen to
6 minutes ago'
This has to be the best thing I've ever seen. Someone on the EDL page put this comment in reply to the 'Muslamic Ray Guns' video someone had posted up:
'Camo Kev Saxon Not really into this electronic rap music shite but agree with the sentiments completely. Nice one pal
We Want Britain To Be Back British. This should get to number one not that bilge the youth of today listen to
6 minutes ago'
I suspect thats a lefty on a wind up.
Red Storm
M14
PlaidDragon
We don't need money to have a good time
Looking at his profile, if it is, he's done the job properly!
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'An attack at the Redbridge Islamic Centre last week has left the members shocked and fearful.'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/06/hideously-diverse-britain-attack-mosque
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/06/hideously-diverse-britain-attack-mosque
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
LOL. The guy who made that tune hangs out on a certain FB page, he will piss himself.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Now that the unity is fractured perhaps autonomous fascist/nazi actions like this will become more common, a huge problem, harder to predict. Let us hope and / or pray that EDL and SYL dont end up with serious blood on their hands. At best they have appeased fascists and nazis. More generally they have consorted with them and facilitated fascist/nazi demonstrators, recruitment etc. By their own proclaimed standards the EDL are a traitor's front. Their organisers, dupes and apologists ought to be accountable and deemed culpable, but they are of course generally too dim to realise what they have done and why they fucked up (if they weren't fascists or nazis in the first place)
Blackburn is a watershed moment, easy to see as generally bad for the EDL but not neccessarily bad for the far right, EDL have provided recruitment and initiation to the far right and they have been incredibly malign even if they now start to slide a bit.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
NWI FB page is interesting reading at the mo. They are stating out their positions and how they intend to operate. Amidst this they are getting into rows with EDL loyalists and southerners. NWI could well be more effective hereonin than EDL if they bring the numbers over. But they appear to be more openly racist and how that plays out is hard to tell. in the end though, EDL has become a victim of trying to deal with the contradiction of saying they were non racist while there was a permanent acceptance, at best, on a nudge-wink basis, further they have to accept that their professed nationalism provides a breeding ground for racism.
gawkrodger
Well-Known Member
what's the address for it?
Ranbay
The same rules apply
MellySingsDoom
Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric
taffyboy - the NWI's/"separatist-EDL"'s stance/professed actions is not to be taken lightly, for sure. However, I'd say that this is a case of the mask of the EDL slipping to reveal what many peeps (such as the Urbanites, natch) have suspected all along on the racism front. The cat looks to be very much out of the bag here, and I guess it's up to us who are aware of this to put up the fight. How do we do this? I have no easy answers, but if anti-racism/fascism has to get militant again, then so be it. And it goes without saying that Asians, as always, will not stand to be willing victims to any actions by the EDL/NWI etc persons.
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Ranbay
The same rules apply
Anudder Oik
heinous pointless bellend/fucking gobshite muppet
The Twat got a year for taking a flying kick at a cop. Lucky for him it wasn't a left wing demo.
As for the debate whether an EDL'er on FB who says he likes the Muslamic ray Guns song is anti EDL. Forget it. They are so thick they actually like the tune and hum it and have- T-shirts based on it. Nothing about them is rational. They just don't understan nuffink...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Robinson's own flying kick charges were dropped. Hmmm.
Anyone else involved in the EDL facebook wars? I've got a couple of mates who are involved in the MDL, and there's been this big kick off round Dewsbury/ Bradford between EDlers posting shit on mates of mates walls and vice versa then big slagging matches. It's made facefuck more interesting, though maybe it's just between a limited group of people after India won the cricket and there was lots of celebrating/ commiserating in Bradford which seemed to piss the EDL off.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Burning issues.
MellySingsDoom
Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric
Indeed. And what happened to those money laundering and mortgage fraud charges that were pending? Questions methinks for the EDL Special Branch Division to answer...
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