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Nigel said:
Was a bit worried about putting this about just in case it was a hoax, but according to some it is official: Didn't want to fall into any anti semitic/nazi publicity scam.
The whole Jewdas thing looks a bit suspicious as well; using anti fascist action for one thing.
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Next you'll be saying the Hebrew Hammer isn't real
 
'National Action is a group of young neo-nazis who have previously stated Combat 18 as their direct inspiration.' the Combat 18 that collapsed into infighting, state infiltration, grassing and murder? good role model.
 
Fuck knows if this is of any use on this particular thread and leaving aside discussions of chasing jordan's hollywood nazis but:


CALL-OUT: appeal for witnesses at anti-fascist protest in March 2014

Bindmans solicitors have asked us to circulate an appeal for witnesses to the arrest of an individual they represent who is facing a trial at Southwark Crown Court in early April. He is charged with encouraging or assisting others to commit summary offences in connection with a demonstration against the English Volunteer Force (EVF) that took place in central London on 15th March 2014.

They are looking for witnesses who may have been present near to the fenced off area opposite Parliament, which was due to be used for the EVF standing rally at approximately 1:45pm on this date, and who may have witnessed the incident.

Contact details here.
 
Great shot from Dudley today!

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Full set - http://londonnewspictures.photoshelter.com/gallery/2015-02-07-EDL-Dudley-JGO/G00009_qcTMmpUss/
 
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Respect for sticking there's necks out but not sure trolling out the old '' Police protect the nazis'' ring true when there's about 40 of you and 600 plus of the opposition , at some point its going to result in some serious injuries for the Antis if the ''police don't protect the nazis''
 
also the only way they can have their little protests or openly be in pubs is generally with police protection.
not all of the time of course
 
The racists aren't usually outnumbered by the counter protestors. That's a UAF or SLATEDL myth. Very often it's the other way round. Not sure that anyone was shouting "Police protect the Nazis" in Dudley (or oldham)
 
are you sure? must have been looking at different pics and reports then
i am aware that it is not always the case but on balance i thought antis generally outnumbered the idiots
will of course accept different view if that is the consensus and stuff to back it up
 
I was referring to a quote from the website linked above '' Yesterday we saw the fash protected by the police '',I agree the EDL are sometimes faced by larger numbers and don't always get there own way e.g Brighton ,I'm not doubting individuals bravery in confronting the EDL but at the same time It looks like they are expecting the plod to get in the way , maybe that's there intentions as a tactic in itself but the posturing about confronting often much larger numbers is going to end badly.
 
it's no worse than the 5w bullshit when they clearly don't go where they want or go when people aren't around, take a pic and claim they infiltrated or dressed in black and slipped though unnoticed :D
 
Mr Bishie is technically wrong I'm afraid - the March for England has been outnumbered (and out classed :)) in Brighton since 2012. Previous marches (2009 -2011) were not effectively opposed - which is why we got our act together.
 
Thunderfist said:
Mr Bishie is technically wrong I'm afraid - the March for England has been outnumbered (and out classed :)) in Brighton since 2012. Previous marches (2009 -2011) were not effectively opposed - which is why we got our act together.
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Not quite correct - the first mfe in 2008 was unopposed, as was 2009. Thereafter opposition has outnumbered them :)
 
This is a bit of an angels on the head of the pin discussion but the full run down goes something like this (from Stop MFE website). I suppose I jumped on what you said because there has been a bit of tendency to assume that the opposition to them in Brighton is a given as opposed to being the result of a lot of hard work (street stalls, meetings, leaflets, stickers, propaganda stunts at archaelogical sites of interest etc)

  • 2008
    Their first Brighton outing was in April 2008 and was unopposed . Eyewitnesses reported racist abuse directed against the public, but we have no direct (i.e recorded) evidence for this.

  • 2009
    2009 saw another largely unopposed demonstration.
  • 2010
    This year saw the first significant counter-mobilisation by anti-fascists to the MfE as by then it was seen as a front group for the then expanding EDL.Unite against Fascism (UAF) staged a counter demonstration against the MfE, taking the form of a rally opposite the King and Queen pub on the Old Steine, the end point of the march. Other non-aligned anti-fascists actually joined the MfE, by taking them at their word as being anti-racists and joining their parade to announce why . They were roundly condemned by the MfE on the day and received a great deal of abuse for handing out a leaflet celebrating a different kind of pride in Englishness (see “England For All”, right).
One MfE marcher, Ryan Williams from Dorset plead guilty to assault (in October 2010) following an incident on this march.

This intervention by antifascists provoked the English Nationalist Alliance, a more overtly racist grouping run by Bill Baker, to return on the Monday of the August Bank Holiday weekend. This time round the ENA mustered around fifty supporters and due to a large mobilisation by Sussex Police were able to march from the train station to the Old Steine although their march was re-routed due to action by anti-fascists. Chants on this march included “You lot all take it up the arse” and “Allah is a paedo”. Although this wasn’t billed as an official MfE event it still features on their website.

One prominent member of MfE – Steven Sands was arrested for GBH after knocking out and hospitalizing an anti-fascist protestor during an ambush outside the Fountainhead pub. Charges were subsequently dropped despite the fact that at least one police office recorded having witnessed the assault.

  • October 2010 – the English Nationalist Alliance attempted to disrupt a SMASH EDOdemonstration with leader Bill Baker saying “SmashEDO is an organisation funded by Palestinian Exiles and Islamic groups to generate socialist political activities against companies that provide military technology to our armed forces so as to weaken our capabilities in carrying out military activities in the Middle East conflict and Afghanistan.” The organisation claimed to have infiltrated Smash EDOs ranks.Although organiser Bill Baker didn’t actually make it on the day, MfE steward Mark Crosby was involved and was arrested for Affray.
  • 2011
    On April 5th a mob of around thirty EDL, including known faces from the March for England such as Mark Crosby, attacked a meeting being held by Unite Against Fascism on the subject of ‘Defending Multiculturalism’. Only the determination of a handful of people on the door prevented them gaining access.
  • April 22nd Just three weeks later, Brighton saw a huge mobilisation by Sussex Police to push the MfE through town during the Royal Wedding bank holiday weekend. They were met at the station by a significant counter-mobilisation of over two hundred. However a large police operation escorted the right-wingers through town while holding the counter-demo in a pen.
  • 2012
    March 17th Brighton EDL, headed up by none other than Mark Crosby staged demonstrations outside a book launch and later met up at Churchill Square to harass the Palestine Solidarity Campaign’s stall. Three of them were arrested.Links to videos of the event.
  • April 22nd – The March for England was met with a resounding counter-demonstration that forced the march to be re-routed. Brighton residents turned out in their hundreds if not thousands to line the route of the march and let MfE know they were not welcome. For an account of the day
  • June 2nd Casuals United attempted to return to Brighton announcing “you have sown the wind ..now you will reap the whirlwind”. In the event a robust anti-fascist presence and the presence of 500 police turned the event into a flop with the far-right crowd marched out of town.
  • 2013
  • January 19th – a handful of far-right activists demonstrated outside the house of Brighton resident Omar Deghayes, a Guantanamo detainee.

  • April 21st The March for England is met with the biggest counter demonstration yet. An estimated 2,000 people turned out to line the route of the march and oppose them. In the event the march was routed along the seafront. The only way the MfE could march was by being surrounded with police inside temporarily erected steel walls.

  • November 22nd – St Edmund’s Day – This was publicised as another revenge mission to Brighton to avenge the insult to the honour of England’s ‘real’ patron saint. Nothing happened of interest to anyone other than medieval historians.

  • 2014
  • The MfE announce their intention to return on April 27th – watch this space!
 
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