EDL watch

[J Ed]

Am I being naive to think that while this might not be great for Tommy, it might possibly be good for society as a whole? Surely almost every EDL member is going to be curious enough to at least look at what Quilliam has to say, and might realise that there are a lot of Muslims who are not extremists.

 

[malatesta32]

this should be a cheque with a sign pointing to 'Bank' behind him!

 

[Ranbay]

It's all too much for my frazzled brain to understand today.... will read more about it tonight/tomorrow.

however, he's clearly stated before that young lads will be blowing them self up for his cuase. He did that on newsnight at the end of the interview, so it's hardly news to him that they have been a bit extreme of late.

 

[ddraig]

btw, ITV's 'Exposure' documentary strand(which broke the Saville story) is to highlight a number of Mosques/Imman's that were prepared to 'marry' 14 year old girls, it is likely this will be Tommys next media appearance condemning the practice.

can you PLEASE provide links for your stuff, otherwise it just looks like confused guff from you

 

[malatesta32]

antifascists have accrued tons of evidence of his generalisations, sweeping statments and outright racist comments. he will have to back pedal drastically and basically admit he was wrong. the Quillys will no doubt have been grooming him over the last week before breaking the story.

 

[treelover]

@drdraig


http://www.itv.com/news/2013-10-06/uk-imams-agree-to-perform-underage-marriages/

This is the programme, its already been on ITV News/Look North, etc, its on Wednesday night ITV

 

[malatesta32]

DDRaig: http://twitpic.com/photos/EDLNewsXtra
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-...evin-caroll-leave-edl-english-defence-league/
etc
quilliam page down.

 

[Pickman's model]

can you PLEASE provide links for your stuff, otherwise it just looks like confused guff from you

i've seen it when he has done and it still looks like confused guff

 

[Pickman's model]

@drdraig


http://www.itv.com/news/2013-10-06/uk-imams-agree-to-perform-underage-marriages/

This is the programme, its already been on ITV News/Look North, etc, its on Wednesday night ITV

without any word from der fuhrer yaxley-lennon?

 

[malatesta32]

he was on 5live apparently.

 

[The39thStep]

Last year Maajid Nawaz made a direct comparison between his old group Hizb ut-Tahrir and the BNP. I'm wondering whether he's following some kind of Patrick H type Third Way.

The Quillam agenda is that the far right and islamic extremists are are mirror image who feed off each other. They have a 'British' agenda and did some good work regarding mosques opening their doors and having payers in English. I did some work with them ( through work ) about four years ago.

 

[butchersapron]

On the QF funding question that was asked earlier. (pdf). This would only be one part of their income of course.

 

[The39thStep]

antifascists have accrued tons of evidence of his generalisations, sweeping statments and outright racist comments. he will have to back pedal drastically and basically admit he was wrong. the Quillys will no doubt have been grooming him over the last week before breaking the story.

essentially he is for all media intents and purposes by renouncing the far right an anti fascist now. I am interested how Mathew Collins and Searchlight take this news

 

[J Ed]

On the QF funding question that was asked earlier. (pdf). This would only be one part of their income of course.

I get the impression that they laid off quite a few people from 2011 onwards, which makes me think that that may well be the bulk of their funding.

 

[The39thStep]

Anjem Choudary ‏@anjemchoudary 4m
If it's true that Tommy Robinson's left EDL to join Quilliam Foundation I wouldn't be surprised as they are an even greater enemy of Muslims

 

[The39thStep]

I get the impression that they laid off quite a few people from 2011 onwards, which makes me think that that may well be the bulk of their funding.

They did when they lost Prevent funding

 

[Gingerman]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01jd6s3

 

[malatesta32]

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/3111/reaction-to-edl-leaders-defecting

 

[butchersapron]

I think they need to re-read that:

“Merely setting up a new party or anti-Muslim organisation will not be enough to convince anti-hate campaigners, and those interested in democratic government, that Lennon and Carroll have truly renounced their ways.

 

[butchersapron]

Tell you what, those islamists really hate the QF don't they? The bob-pitt wing of the left seem rather rabid over them too.

 

[J Ed]

lol

 

[J Ed]

Tell you what, those islamists really hate the QF don't they? The bob-pitt wing of the left seem rather rabid over them too.

Yep, but why wouldn't they be? The Bob Pitts of this world are happy enough to defer to the far-right Islamist worldview on most things.

 

[elbows]

He explained his motives for leaving, telling BBC Radio 5 live's Nicky Campbell: "When some moron lifts up his top and he's got the picture of a mosque saying 'boom' and it's all over the national newspapers, it's me, it's when I pick up my kids from school the parents are looking at me, judging me on that.

"And that's not what I've stood for and my decision to do this is to be true to what I stand for. And whilst I want to lead the revolution against Islamist ideology, I don't want to lead the revolution against Muslims.

"I believe that the revolution needs to come from within the Islamic community and they need to stand up. And I believe this is a step forward not a step back."

From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24442953

 

[butchersapron]

Yep, but why wouldn't they be? The Bob Pitts of this world are happy enough to defer to the far-right Islamist worldview on most things.

Absolutely they are. Which tends to colour how large parts of the the left relate to muslims - and leaves secular muslims or left-wing muslims out in the cold, or worse, as enemies.

 

[Pickman's model]

From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24442953

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/e...oll-quit-over-farright-extremism-8866277.html

 

[malatesta32]

what the fuck is he on about? revolution? 'And whilst I want to lead the revolution against Islamist ideology, I don't want to lead the revolution against Muslims.'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24442953

 

[malatesta32]

and yet again denying any responsibility for his followers action.

 

[Pickman's model]

what the fuck is he on about? revolution? 'And whilst I want to lead the revolution against Islamist ideology, I don't want to lead the revolution against Muslims.'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24442953

this one's got legs

 

[treelover]

Tell you what, those islamists really hate the QF don't they? The bob-pitt wing of the left seem rather rabid over them too.

Pitt is a mouth foamer and an embarrassment

 

[malatesta32]

which pitt? paul or bob?