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Managerial shortcuts into the ex-extremist and we have a common anti-extremist agenda circuit like this aren't going to deal with the stuff that the edl manged to ride on either.
 
Not convinced this is some long term work by Q paying off, but maybe them just grabbing sudden offer/ deal from SYL/TR and spinning it to their maximum benefit.

Not that TR cares, its the old Mandela / soviet union one, "maybe we were using them"?
 
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Not convinced this is some long term work by Q paying off, but maybe them just grabbing sudden offer/ deal from SYL/TR and spinning it to their maximum benefit.

Not that TR cares, its the old Mandela / soviet union one, "maybe we were using them"?
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Well, it's already got the liberal left tying itself in knots trying to show the QF is racist, islamophobic and elitist. But then again, if that is some small motivation on TR's part, to demonstrate this - it doesn't really mean anything does it?
 
Last year Maajid Nawaz made a direct comparison between his old group Hizb ut-Tahrir and the BNP. I'm wondering whether he's following some kind of Patrick H type Third Way.
 
butchersapron said:
Well, it's already got the liberal left tying itself in knots trying to show the QF is racist, islamophobic and elitist. But then again, if that is some small motivation on TR's part, to demonstrate this - it doesn't really mean anything does it?
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it may do in the l/t for Q as an org. They will lose any credibility they have with the Muslims they are supposed to be winning over with this. Esp if TR still sounds like TR from today on. But again, Q top movers may be eyeing personal objectives, not org ones (TR too of course)
 
cesare said:
Last year Maajid Nawaz made a direct comparison between his old group Hizb ut-Tahrir and the BNP. I'm wondering whether he's following some kind of Patrick H type Third Way.
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For Nawaz or TR?

edit: if the latter, then i think he's just looking for way into the mainstream, If the former, he's got his eye on parliament - he picked the wrong party though.
 
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12 other 'senior members' have also left. Senior members :D
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butchersapron said:
For Nawaz or TR?

edit: if the latter, then i think he's just looking for way into the mainstream, If the former, he's got his eye on parliament - he picked the wrong party though.
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A bit more profile and cred from this sort of thing and he might make a decent mayoral candidate for them
 
cesare said:
Last year Maajid Nawaz made a direct comparison between his old group Hizb ut-Tahrir and the BNP. I'm wondering whether he's following some kind of Patrick H type Third Way.
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I don't see a comparison between Hizb and the BNP being all that far off the mark to be honest. Having had a few pints a couple of times with a former member of Hizb who spent some time working for QF before being laid off, I really hope that *his* views aren't representative of QF as a whole since his trajectory seemed to be to go from being a member of Hizb to a neocon desperately trying to get some work with the Henry Jackson Society.

QF have to be incredibly well networked though, this particular bloke really doesn't know a huge amount about anything at all but still manages to get an article in the Guardian fairly often.
 
btw, ITV's 'Exposure' documentary strand(which broke the Saville story) is to highlight a number of Mosques/Imman's that were prepared to 'marry' 14 year old girls, it is likely this will be Tommys next media appearance condemning the practice.
 
J Ed said:
I don't see a comparison between Hizb and the BNP being all that far off the mark to be honest. Having had a few pints a couple of times with a former member of Hizb who spent some time working for QF before being laid off, I really hope that *his* views aren't representative of QF as a whole since his trajectory seemed to be to go from being a member of Hizb to a neocon desperately trying to get some work with the Henry Jackson Society.
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I thought his comparison was quite a good one. The Staggers series of letters between him and Hasan certainly made his position reasonably clear and I can also see from that where this business of laundering Robinson et al comes from. The incongruity is the LibDem aspect, although nothing much surprises me about those cunts.
 
tommy made a lot of money out of the EDL and it is over now. he is looking for a way to achieve 'political respectability', to continue to get his media fix and make some cash from the MSM. he is a vain, spivvy opportunist. little more.
 
Tommy Robinson will definitely form a new political group after stepping down as leader of the English Defence League, his personal assistant has told IBTimes UK.

Helen Gower also told our reporter that, although Robinson informed his support staff of his decision to step down a week ago, the rest of the EDL had no idea that he and deputy Kevin Carroll would be resigning.

She was speaking after Robinson announced that he is quitting the far-right movement due to "the dangers of far-right extremism" and the need for "better, democratic ideas" in the fight against Islamic extremism.

Gower said: "No-one had any idea apart from myself and other support members. Tommy told us last week.

"He told us that he didn't feel protests were achieving anything any longer and had gone as far as they could.

"A new group, that isn't street-based, is going to be formed. Tommy is definitely going to be in the new group, and Kevin will be in it too."

Gower also admitted that Robinson's announcement had caused chaos within the movement he founded in 2009.

"At the moment people are a bit bemused by it all as no-one knew it was happening, so the reaction isn't very good. A lot of people are concerned because we've got Bradford this Saturday, and obviuously Tommy and Kevin will not now be attending that.

"I have no idea whether the group will go on, all the regional organisers will need to discuss stuff and decide on how to proceed."
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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/5...h-defence-league-tommy-robinson-edl-quits.htm
 
malatesta32 said:
tommy made a lot of money out of the EDL and it is over now. he is looking for a way to achieve 'political respectability', to continue to get his media fix and make some cash from the MSM. he is a vain, spivvy opportunist. little more.
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his threads have certainly improved, nice tweed jacket in the QF photo
 
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