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J Ed said:
So... who remembers Nationalist Brony's appearance here?

He, or someone like him, has got a tattoo...

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that is horrific and why is it in rainbow colours?
 
tony.c said:
He's a gay Nazi?
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Or his tattoo artist is... :p

That has got to rank as one of the very worst fash tattoos ever. FFS, I can almost appreciate the art in the Viking mythology/Tolkenesque shit that some of them get done, but that has to be the silliest tattoo work that I've ever seen on a fascist. :D
 
What I don't get with all these Zulus in the EDL, I thought they were supposed to be an anti-racist firm so why are their members joining EDL marches and talking about being in Combat 18?
 
tony.c said:
But Latin was brought into this country by invading foreigners who also introduced an alien religion originating from the Middle East.
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And English was a collection of words brought here from Northern Germany,Friesia and Scandanavia.
The language here at the time of the Romans is still here, in Wales, Scotland and Cornwall. The Saxons, Angles and Jutes drove the indigenous population into what is now Wales.
In Welsh the word for England is Lloegr roughly translated as the lost land.
Shall we all get our bags packed now?
 
Sprocket. said:
And English was a collection of words brought here from Northern Germany,Friesia and Scandanavia.
The language here at the time of the Romans is still here, in Wales, Scotland and Cornwall. The Saxons, Angeles and Jutes drove the indigenous population into what is now Wales.
In Welsh the word for England is Lloegr roughly translated as the lost land.
Shall we all get our bags packed now?
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Yeah. Bugger off back where you came from, you scrounging Anglo Saxon bastards. Lloegr for the Welsh! Mewnfudwyr gwaedlyd, maent yn dod draw yma, yn cymryd ein swyddi a'n tir ...
 
J Ed said:
What I don't get with all these Zulus in the EDL, I thought they were supposed to be an anti-racist firm so why are their members joining EDL marches and talking about being in Combat 18?
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The Zulus were not 'an anti-racist firm', that was a construct promoted by some of their black lads for a particular TV documentary.

One of the best known Villa hooligans is black. He wasn't the only black fella in Villa's firm either, but it didn't stop most of their white members associating with the NF and driving others out of the firm if they were on the left, or Irish republican sympathisers.
 
J Ed said:
What I don't get with all these Zulus in the EDL, I thought they were supposed to be an anti-racist firm so why are their members joining EDL marches and talking about being in Combat 18?
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Because they are not zulus just hanger on idiots using the name to boost their silly little egos up. There was a band up there that was connected to c18 that some of the younger blues and villa followed bitd, but that was more for the loyalist shit then the nazi bit. I used to follow the mighty Baggies all over the country and you get to know and hear things and blues were never a racist firm imo. Villa had their elements and it was one of theirs that wrote that book on the Edl i know, which suggests their lot are more likely to be towards the right.
 
Jeremy Vile said:
Because they are not zulus just hanger on idiots using the name to boost their silly little egos up. There was a band up there that was connected to c18 that some of the younger blues and villa followed bitd, but that was more for the loyalist shit then the nazi bit. I used to follow the mighty Baggies all over the country and you get to know and hear things and blues were never a racist firm imo. Villa had their elements and it was one of theirs that wrote that book on the Edl i know, which suggests their lot are more likely to be towards the right.
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I have good mates who were involved with Villa's firm and who went on to become AFA activists in Birmingham. A few lads that did the business regularly with AFA were well-known 'faces' at Villa in the 80's, but they also had to watch their backs constantly as the firm was predominantly fash.

There was also a couple of Blues lads involved with AFA, but they weren't black and none of this element of the so-called 'anti-racist firm' got seriously involved in anti-fascism. Maybe they did their own thing (pre-AFA in the 80's) but there's little evidence of them doing anything post-1990 according to my sources in Birmingham AFA.

When Celtic played Blues in a pre-season friendly in 1995, we had the biggest off with any firm we'd had since the mid-1980's with hundreds on each side fighting outside the Dubliner in Digbeth. The Zulus were happy enough that day to unite against "the IRA" and link up with the fash. They got run in the end, but it was one of the biggest fights the CSC had been in for years.

Birmingham City v Celtic TAL Nº 14 1995

Another mob tried to attack us from a side street but, again, they were ran. They then decided to seek refuge behind the lines of police who had quickly appeared and our attackers showed their true colours by Sieg Heiling us and singing their favourite ditty of the moment, "No Surrender to the IRA". All this after being chased off and then hiding behind the cops - what was that about "No Surrender'? The Celtic Casuals answered this with a chant of "BNP - wank, wank, wank!"

This went some way towards letting the black lads from the Birmingham 'Zulus' know that our fight was not against them but against the fascists and loyalists whose intentions are to smash the Irish. Many Celtic fans were surprised to see black guys fighting on the same side as the nazis - why be so shocked that the Zulus should fall for the same anti-Irish crap that is absorbed by most England fans? They weren't giving nazi salutes like the others but they were up for the row and therefore suffered the same fate as their fair weather friends. It's disappointing but hopefully the Zulus will have learned to choose their friends more carefully in future. I remember well in the early eighties how Villa NF supporters used to put stickers around the Holte End saying, "Villa shits on Black Zulus". Yet, against Celtic, the Zulus were prepared to fight on the same side as the Villa fascists!
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J Ed said:
What I don't get with all these Zulus in the EDL, I thought they were supposed to be an anti-racist firm so why are their members joining EDL marches and talking about being in Combat 18?
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in my researches into footy firms the antiracist thing appears overplayed - tho i am sure framed or bignose may disagree on some cases. mickey francis and his man city black firm co-existed with the NF city firm -who were well known round MCR as bignose will tell you! brum zulus had a lot of black guys as did others but there was a distinct element of 'the blacks are alright, its the asians i cant stand!' type of specific racism amongst some of the firm. this is generalisation.

edit: sorry just a quick response, didnt read all of the above. nanatesta wants her laptop back.
 
malatesta32 said:
in my researches into footy firms the antiracist thing appears overplayed - tho i am sure framed or bignose may disagree on some cases. mickey francis and his man city black firm co-existed with the NF city firm -who were well known round MCR as bignose will tell you! brum zulus had a lot of black guys as did others but there was a distinct element of 'the blacks are alright, its the asians i cant stand!' type of specific racism amongst some of the firm. this is generalisation.

edit: sorry just a quick response, didnt read all of the above. nanatesta wants her laptop back.
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There's a tendency among lefties to confuse skin pigmentation with 'anti-racism', which is in itself a bit patronising and racist innit?

A football firm that is multiracial in make-up does not automatically confer 'anti-fascist' or 'anti-racist' status on it. Cass Pennant at West Ham, for example, is a good bloke who stands for no racism around him, but the penny hasn't dropped yet with regard to the fash from Lazio that have established relations with the ICF in recent years.
 
Gave me an excuse to contact some old friends in Brum. They are scathing about the political/anti-racist credentials claimed by former Zulus and detailed some of their more reactionary activities over the years, but I'm saving that info for another project. ;)
 
I'm a big blues fan, used to follow them every game home and away over about a 15 yr period mainly in the 90's -was at that celtic game (was embarrassing to be a nose that day tbh) and i never once got the impression that the zulus were anti-racist, or even vaguely political - i always thought they were and still are really about money (at least the 'proper' zulus, not the hangers on). have heard some truly horrible stories about things people calling themselves zulus are alleged to have done, well beyond 'hooliganism.' definately the vile had a racist element ime but i'm not at all surprised theres a racist element at blues. i've heard blues fans occasionally going on about tensions simmering between asian lads and white lads in areas like small heath, but it always sounds exaggerated to me, though i don't live in brum now tbf.
 
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