EDL watch

[SpineyNorman]

ask Forge Student Press who were in the cage, they will know?

I know one of the main people at forge - I'll ask him to find out. I've heard the two finger thing from somewhere else now too so I think it's probably right. But there will be nazis using it as cover for a proper roman salute too.

 

[butchersapron]

Maybe they're being cleverer than we give them credit for. Think about it - devise a 'peace sign'/'victory salute' that looks very much like a nazi salute and make sure everyone knows what it is. Then people will think the fash in there who can't resist a bit of the old sieg heil are doing that too.

Or am I giving them too much credit here?

d-day and all that.

 

[treelover]

seems like there are people all over the web who really really want them to be sieg heiling, personally I don't, they are bad enough without moving as a group into that territory

 

[SpineyNorman]

She's just a girl who thinks they're ugly gets. I saw a load of them close up, penned in at that student pub (the Harley?) They were indeed a bunch of ugly cunts. I felt like a male model in comparison.

Well done.

 

[SpineyNorman]

seems like there are people all over the web who really really want them to be sieg heiling, personally I don't, they are bad enough without moving as a group into that territory

I can sort of see the reasoning - having them doing Nazi salutes at a British war memorial would kill and soft support they might have stone dead. But yes, if those kinds of salutes were accompanied by the associated politics then that would be very worrying.

 

[treelover]

revealing new footage, of both sides at the protest by an 'independent videographer'

 

[butchersapron]

I mean, if you look at that photo some of them are in shorts. It isn't pretty. At a wreath laying ceremony. It's a bit like turning up at a funeral in shorts.

Only in this day and age.

One of the three in shorts is tommy robinson.

 

[butchersapron]

revealing new footage, of both sides at the protest by an 'independent videographer'

Good lord, if it wasn't for the coppers you'd be dead. Be very careful what you wish for.

 

[Fedayn]

Was a huge trope in the 70s (US and UK) with the influx of petrodollars. Lots of mainstream comedy shows depicting sheiks walking around buying everything they see.

And even mentioned in Elvis Costello's 'Olivers Army'.

 

[cdg]

I was there too. I've got missing teeth, a bit of a beer gut and not a great deal of hair. Wish someone had fucking told me I was on the wrong demo.

I like stella, I like drugs, I've got my front teeth missing, I wear all the ''chavvy'' clothes, I've got a crooked nose, I wear my hair short and I've even got a butchers apron tattoo(I was young) does that mean I'm EDL?

 

[treelover]

Good lord, if it wasn't for the coppers you'd be dead. Be very careful what you wish for.

that's the core of the ISN here..

btw, really surreal to see the local war memorial as a contested space..

 

[Citizen66]

It does when you want to provoke people.

Risky strategy doing that at a war memorial though. They run the risk of turning off those they think they appeal to.

 

[butchersapron]

And even mentioned in Elvis Costello's 'Olivers Army'.

That's what i was trying to remember! Ta, somehow got it in my mind it was a stranglers song i was thinking of so have been poring over their lyrics, right i can get on with other stuff now

 

[Fedayn]

Few comments from a member of the BBC (Blades Business Crew) Sheffield Uniteds football mob.

Well I knew the day would finally come when they paid a visit to my city, maybe a 1000 or so, 90% under the age of 25.. sad to say I knew some there, young gullible lads aged between 16-21
Fair few EDL laid out with sore jaws on the back streets though

But sad to say also the daft twats from the UAF got sore ones aswell. Why do they think all people who may dress a certain way are EDL? me and my pals turned a few corners and had scruffy cunts who looked like they just came from a tree protest running at us, wouldnt even listen to the "we are not EDL"

Apparently EDL now lobbing bricks at the police, and me and my pals had to vacate the city centre or face arrest after the police paid us a visit in the pub... we had to go or get nicked yet the EDL still in town lobbing bricks and chanting "burn mosques" etc.. never reyt

Yeah mate, quite a few EDL knocked out cold in a few seperate incidents.. about 20 of us but UAF just wanted to fight us when it was quite clear we were not edl, even a few black lads with us could not calm certain uaf who because of our clothes thought we were edl

Tommy Robinson was there so I'm guessing they came from all over but with the majority from Yorkshire maybe..

Ones I recognised were young lads that I know personally as well as football lads, funny you never see Wednesday lads in the town centre but they were all over it today, big organised mob of them met up and then went to the meeting point of the EDL

Only organised Blades mob was the 20 of us.. although I did see the odd young Blades lad with the EDL sadly

 

[SpineyNorman]

I like stella, I like drugs, I've got my front teeth missing, I wear all the ''chavvy'' clothes, I've got a crooked nose, I wear my hair short and I've even got a butchers apron tattoo(I was young) does that mean I'm EDL?

Yes.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Thay're not really about appealing to anybody.

Yes they are, what do you think the desperate attempts to stop members chanting, getting pissed and generally acting more like they were celebrating than paying their respects were all about? They want their 'movement' to grow. That means appealing to people.

 

[cdg]

Yes.

E E EDF.

 

[SpineyNorman]

No. But both sides could definiely do with making a bit more of an effort with themselves.

Yes, that's what really counts after all.

 

[DotCommunist]

E E EDF.

keep it old school with British movement Gas

 

[cdg]

No. But both sides could definiely do with making a bit more of an effort with themselves.

What do you suggest as a start? You seem to know your aesthetics.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Maybe they do then.

It just seems to me that they're about wasting everybody's time and posing around. Look at me, I'm hard, me, and I don't like Muslims. And coppers.

The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. And some of them are a lot more sophisticated than that. Biggest mistake you can make is underestimating them.

 

[cdg]

I don't know. There are umpteen options.

I'm listening/reading.

 

[Citizen66]

They're not really about appealing to anybody.

This. vvvvv

Yes they are, what do you think the desperate attempts to stop members chanting, getting pissed and generally acting more like they were celebrating than paying their respects were all about? They want their 'movement' to grow. That means appealing to people.

 

[cdg]

It's really down to you.

I'm OK with my own and others appearance. It was you that suggested it was a problem.

 

[treelover]

Re video I posted, silly girl, dancing on a war memorial is not on and it will be used as ammunition by the EDL, etc.

anyway, was the march a success for the EDL, a fair number on their FB page are saying they will attend in future, etc.

 

[butchersapron]

They were always here Gene. Ooh-e-oo-e.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Aargh, the Nazis are here!

You're a bit of a twat really aren't you?

 

[SpineyNorman]

Re video I posted, silly girl, dancing on a war memorial is not on and it will be used as ammunition by the EDL, etc.

Let's hope people don't go posting it all over the internet then

anyway, was the march a success for the EDL, a fair number on their FB page are saying they will attend in future, etc.

They do that after every march - not saying it hasn't helped them get more but that's not much use as an indication.

 

[Citizen66]

The rump remainder of the far left needs the EDL. The EDL need people to shriek at them.

Both sides go home thinking they've participated in politics.

No, the far left don't need the fucking edl. It's a welcome distraction for some quarters though.

 

[treelover]

Blue Labour supporter Gene?