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Bob, could you post summaries for the links you throw up please?
Because it's nice to have a hint of what it's about and also it keeps some of the information on the thread should the url become dead at a later date.
Ranbay
The same rules apply
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-12657028
Rochdale EDL and UAF protests: 17 arrests
On the feed says 23 arrests now.
Rochdale EDL and UAF protests: 17 arrests
On the feed says 23 arrests now.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
GMP don't mess about
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
looks like another pretty poor turnout. From both sides.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Feel sorry for the commuters(especially if any happened to be muslim). Words fail me as to how retarded these people are.
fiannanahalba
Feel the Love
Fucking outrageous ---- smoking on a train.
Am off to burn some poppies in disgust.
Am off to burn some poppies in disgust.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Anyone read the full Searchlight survey and analysis on attitudes to race, culture and identity?
Proper Tidy
Arsed
No
was at an event on saturday where anthony painter did a power point presentation on the very subject, with his colourful graphs and everything. RMT's Steve Hedley was part of the panel as well.
It was a very consultancy-speak kind of presentation which reflects the nature of the survey. The conclusions will fuel future government policy-maker decisions rather than drum up discusssion in the pubs and mosques of the country.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Cheers, sorry for the delay in responding to this, and cheers to the others who said helpful things about my ranting here. Anyway once I calmed down and did some calculations I realised that I am financially doomed and so cannot leave either Nuneaton or my job at this present time, back to the reality that I cannot run from this shit unless I resuscitate a career that has been stagnant for a decade.
On the bright side someone at work today started ranting about the coalition instead of the usual bollocks. And someone else who is linked to those who upset me most just over a week ago, may have just come unstuck by doing something very naughty at work and being caught. This is small comfort considering the serious issues at play here, but I need all the comfort and sources of hope I can lay my hands on.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Is it worth it?
It is actually. It is long , has loads of data in it and the way in which it is formatted makes it hard to read but it is interesting.
It does provide evidence that the no borders, multiculturalism is fantastic view is around 8% of those surveyed and is overwhelmingly middle class.
It says many things but some of the findings of the report actually don't fit its political conclusions. One example is the fact that those it says who are most at risk of backing the far right are those who have been and will be affected by the recession . Who ends up quoting the report on Sunday morning but David Milliband, a member of the labour govt whose economic policies created the opportunity for the BNP in the first place.Yet no where within the document is there any mention of a fight against cuts or the economic situation .
Another conclusion is that a non violent anti muslim, anti europe anti immigration party could take advantage as the BNP are finished ( apparently still rooted in white supremacy compared to the diverse EDL) and the EDL is compromised by its image. So having bigged up the EDL as an alternative to the BNP ( and still bigging them up with its latest article on Lake) it is now bigging up the potential for another group to take a lead. Who and why? and where are the actual forces for this?
Its big push is the bringing all parts of the community together against extremism , 'a curse on both their their houses' type approach.
However the actual survey shows glaring differences in white, black and Asian attitudes to the importance of nationality, ethnicity and religion ( probably due to years of top down multiculralism and a liberal left who have played the same game) .It does show as well that support for restricted immigration extends across ethnicity and that it is seen as an economic threat to pay and employment.
What is doesn't answer though is what their attitudes are to any of the underlying economic issues that the report at one point dwells on .So fight extremism but don't advocate any fightback against the recession. That might upset the party that they have thrown their main lot in with , the Labour Party; and although they are not explicit about in this document they stated before Xmas something on the lines of in the same way there is challenge to the orthodoxy of strikes against the cuts by an alternative of more inclusive community organisation that a similar approach was required in fighting fascism.
Worth a read and some thought.
albionism
A successful virus clinging to a speck of mud.
I've been there mate, in a similar situation..I worked for some 5 years for a painting/decorating/refurbishment firm, late 90's early 00's,
with Daily Star, Daily Mail, Daily Sport reading fuck-wits. Every day i had to listen to "coon" this and "paki" that and i was, for financial
reasons, trapped in that job with no way out and i dreaded going to work every morning. Try as i did, on a daily basis, there was just
no breaking through their thick skulls with argument and discussion and reason and facts (though i was tempted on occasion to break
through them with a heavy hammer!). I remember being the only person, in a workforce of some 25-30, who opposed the Iraq war
and i felt i was in a very lonely place indeed. Good luck with your situation.
Okay cheers for that. Will give it a read.
link?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It took me awhile to find it to be fair.
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