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ayatollah, i think the schadenfreude of seeing that wee eejit making a fool of himself was winning over the no platform idea honestly!

That's always been a view, when confronted with the frankly bonkers, and often carpet chewing delivery, of racist/fascist views. But in whose eyes would he be "making an eejit" of himself ? Us yeh, but we aren't the target audience. Look at the seriously bonkers ,spittle flecked, rants by Hitler on old newsreels, and its tempting to think "surely the audience must be starting to shuffle its collective feet, and nervously whispering .."Adolf's really lost it this time".... but no, they lapped it up every time.

When society goes into crisis all the deeply embedded idological shit in society starts to surface, and the irrational , the atavistic hatreds, suddenly become "just expressing a commonly held viewpoint" .. and the exposition of racist/sectarian hatred in public forums simply does build the momentum of the racist tide. I know that with the internet in particular , "No Platform" is much harder to enforce nowadays, but in the public meeting forum, fascists have to be banned or physically suppressed.. brutally if possible ... not invited in to take part in a civilised debate.

"Only if our opponents had understood from the very beginning the nature and objectives of our new movement, and had brutally suppressed it from its first days.. could the National Socialist Movement have been stopped" a from memory approximation to that famous quote from A.Hitler himself. He was correct on that one at least.
 
http://www .liveleak.com/view?i=312_1348871902

A half hour documentary which follows the both the French extremist group Bloc Identitaire, an Islamophobic and Anti-Semetic group. Here's a bit about them:

The second half of this documentary follows the English Defence League, who themselves maintain strong bonds with Bloc Identitaire, conveniently forgetting of course the latter groups strong Anti-Semetic leanings, which may explain in part why EDL's Jewish Division no longer exists outside of Facebook.
 
Seems there were some militant anti fa around.
During the confrontations around 20 masked youths surged towards the back of police lines but more officers were quick to stop them, ensuring the two rival groups did not meet.At 3pm officers cleared Lichfield Street with a shields charge as members of the EDL were herded on to buses to transport them away from the town centre. ..

http://inagist.com/all/252057766724788226/
 
Derisory turnout for the SDL in Edinburgh today, which included various Infididdlers imported from England, 30 or so I reckon, with 4 arrests, apparently.
Oh, and they had a "End racists attacks against white people" banner with a pic that looked suspiciously like Tommeh with his made up black eye (at least that what it looked like from a distance, hopefully someone got a picture).
 
Looks like a table leg. Right on the bonce.

Shame he's wearing a crash helmet :(

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So it is! :D

It's a bloody big table then ! A real Jack and the Beanstalk giant's table there ! Looks more like some sort of vandalised street signpost . Possibly with some sort of directive messages on it, like "this way to the dustbin of history fascist nutters" , and "that way to the pub, drunken yobs" ?
 
EDL's unique selling point is the promise of a punch up with the Police. They got one. What's their problem?

as usual, they have been shooting off at the mouth and then moaning about the consequences - they do it when bested by locals, antifascists or plod. in cliched terms - they cant walk the walk (only piss the pants). shitters.
 
That's always been a view, when confronted with the frankly bonkers, and often carpet chewing delivery, of racist/fascist views. But in whose eyes would he be "making an eejit" of himself ? Us yeh, but we aren't the target audience. Look at the seriously bonkers ,spittle flecked, rants by Hitler on old newsreels, and its tempting to think "surely the audience must be starting to shuffle its collective feet, and nervously whispering .."Adolf's really lost it this time".... but no, they lapped it up every time.

When society goes into crisis all the deeply embedded idological shit in society starts to surface, and the irrational , the atavistic hatreds, suddenly become "just expressing a commonly held viewpoint" .. and the exposition of racist/sectarian hatred in public forums simply does build the momentum of the racist tide. I know that with the internet in particular , "No Platform" is much harder to enforce nowadays, but in the public meeting forum, fascists have to be banned or physically suppressed.. brutally if possible ... not invited in to take part in a civilised debate.

"Only if our opponents had understood from the very beginning the nature and objectives of our new movement, and had brutally suppressed it from its first days.. could the National Socialist Movement have been stopped" a from memory approximation to that famous quote from A.Hitler himself. He was correct on that one at least.

just a thought: the no platform argument is destabilised a wee bit by the fact that many people interface EDL etc online - apart from when they turn up in town as the good people of walsall saw yesterday. the argument could be that if mr tommy was shown making a fool of himself and it went viral on the net - which it no doubt would - this could expose the weakness of is arguments. such as they are. anyway ...
 
There were grupuscules like this even way back in the post war era, but back then they didn't have Facebook and stayed as they deserved, unheard of. Bunch of dickwads the lot of them. Go home and play with your action man!

Here they are joined by the casuals.

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