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“What’s that smell? EdL!”

What you can smell in this video is the desperation. They are absolutely pathetic. Jostled and jeered. There’s a LOL bit at minute 4.50 when the Edl lost property division holds aloft something he may very well deserve.

There’s another LoL at minute 5.47 when the spitlemouth division (all one of them) walks across screen. That’s when the Benny Hill music should kick in.

Check the reaction when one of em starts singing "let's go fuckin mental", towards the end at 6.10. It's one of those LoL moments.

Well done everyone who was there to oppose them…

What’s that smell?

 
Oh god, two private school poshoes (at least one of whom is a cameron-esque big society libertarian) with a show on BBC3 (what a surprise!) doing over tommy robinson. Cheers for that BBC.

I don't like agreeing with you on principle, but that was entirely my reaction as well. Didn't make any point at all, wasn't funny, just another excuse to put Lennon's fat fucking face on the telly. They shouldn't be doing this, he's a full-on celebrity-circuit wanker, he's been on everything.
 
I don't like agreeing with you on principle, but that was entirely my reaction as well. Didn't make any point at all, wasn't funny, just another excuse to put Lennon's fat fucking face on the telly. They shouldn't be doing this, he's a full-on celebrity-circuit wanker, he's been on everything.
Problem with this approach is that there are a great many things on which i'm right.
 
A reminder here, with a view to an analysis in 2011 of EDL supporters by Demos: Inside the EDL, that people attracted to this far-right group can't just be dismissed using clichéd, pejorative terms, often media driven. The report stresses that EDL supporters are more complex than is often portrayed.

The report found that around 30 percent are educated to college or university level, and 15 percent have a professional qualification. Although, it is noted that EDL supporters, especially older supporters, are more likely to be unemployed. The Demos report also recognises that around a third of EDL supporters would happily vote for the BNP.

The report also argues that many EDL followers view themselves ultimately as democrats. It is the little trust many EDL supporters have in the mainstream institutions of society, which helps explain the turn to far-right extremist groups that reflect and express their concerns.

Using pejorative, stereotypical terms to demonise will only entrench resentments, which the far-right thrives on. In the latest edition of Searchlight, which uses the Demos report in an article analysing far-right extremism, the author of this piece makes the important point that: "One cannot overcome prejudices in society with a retreat into stereotypes".

What leads to people going on EDL demonstrations? The report highlights these reasons:

...it is a sense of injustice and pessimism about the future that encourages them to protest – a sense that may be exacerbated by the low confidence that EDL demonstrators have in the police.

As the economic situation is further likely to exacerbate tensions, it will be engagement and persuasion in civil and political society, not just demonstrations alone, that will undermine far-right "alternatives", which in reality offer no political solutions.
 
fair enough in part but anyone who has been on counter-demos has seen the EDL up close: pissed, violent, 'who are you?' 'allah is a pedo' chants; usual fucking eejits. the facebook and forum comments are hardly impressive. they do have legitimate grievances but it aint fucking muslims making folk unemployed, not building affordable housing and controlling the banks! (its the joos!)
 
What we saw at the weekend was the continuing decline of numbers attending EDL marches, leaving the hard-core and I assume some of the other flora and fauna of the far-right attaching themselves to the EDL. We've also seen the decline of the BNP (latest membership figures, 7,681, from a peak of 12,632 in 2009), but the underlying issues that have allowed both organisations to grow have not gone away. It also needs to be noted that support for both groups have some striking similarities amongst their base, which, while that too has declined, will, if an alternative is not posed to it, will be back.

Edit: The first EDL demo I was up close and personal to included on it, an Asian, a Jew and it should be said a well known local NF member. Turned out Tommy was there too, still wearing his niqab at the time.
 
The EDL having no democratic structure, with no formal membership, "supporter" is all that there is to analyse.

yeah, so its a bit of a vague term. the only 1s i wd take seriously are the ones who go on the demo days. lots of people 'support' the bnp etc but dont vote for em. also i trust the opinions and experiences of anti-fascists (like on here) more than demos cos we have the ability to compare them to previous opponents - NF, BNP, BM, etc. for me the EDL are similar but with more support than before from soccer firms.
 
My first encounter of, it should be said, a small, local fascist grouplet, was back in 1974. Jeez, hasn't time flown by and such pond-life still exists.
 
"Did Mohammed have sex with a 9 year old girl?"
"Did Mohammed have sex with a 9 year old girl?"
"Did Mohammed have sex with a 9 year old girl?"
"Did Mohammed have sex with a 9 year old girl?"
"Did Mohammed have sex with a 9 year old girl?"
"Did Mohammed have sex with a 9 year old girl?"

Till he wins
 
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