Driving Standards

[spitfire]

Last week I threw a bottle of Oasis Summer Fruits at a car that nearly took-out Mrs Spy and me on a pedestrian crossing on the Finchley Road, whilst undertaking another car that had stopped. Bounced it off his back bumper. He stopped further down the road but fucked-off when I started walking towards him.

Family story. I was obviously not there. Or at least not sentient.

A chap in an MG gave my pregnant mother a nudge as she wasn’t moving fast enough for him on a ped crossing.

His convertible roof was “removed” by my dad and I don’t think he would try that ever again.

 

[T & P]

The average hire car company will not rent to under 21's. It might even be 25 for a supercar. I'm not sure there would be much a parent could say to a twenty something.

Genuinely curious about the insurance excess though. If they charge you and I a £1,200 excess for a bog standard Ford Focus, what would they charge for a hypercar? Because apart from the cost of the car itself, I’d bet my life the percentage of such hire cars that involved in collisions is much higher than ordinary cars.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Genuinely curious about the insurance excess though. If they charge you and I a £1,200 excess for a bog standard Ford Focus, what would they charge for a hypercar? Because apart from the cost of the car itself, I’d bet my life the percentage of such hire cars that involved in collisions is much higher than ordinary cars.

Take the excess-waiver insurance when you rent one.

This guy, I saw it hooning around in Walton-on-Thames, before it went over to Shepperton and made a minor faux-pas, turns out he rented it from his brother's rental firm: BBC NEWS | England | Surrey | Rare Bugatti crashes into trees

 

[Orang Utan]

I got brmm-brmmed at yesterday by a impatient twat with too much money who was in a brightly coloured low sports/performance type car - a Lamborghini or summat. I was polite in my response as I said ‘I’m SO sorry about your penis’.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I got brmm-brmmed at yesterday by a impatient twat with too much money who was in a brightly coloured low sports/performance type car - a Lamborghini or summat. I was polite in my response as I said ‘I’m SO sorry about your penis’.

Instead of scowling or shouting at bellends driving around town in horrendously noisy 'sports' cars, I've taken to just laughing at them. Because they are invariably ridiculous, pathetic creatures. Toddlers in adult bodies.

 

[Elpenor]

This made me angry; particularly the video shot by the driver which shows him steering with his legs.

Note that the video shows what looks like ideal driving conditions, so the thing that causes the crash is purely the excess speed and the dangerous driving.

The outcome: the death a pregnant woman who was parked on the hard shoulder with a flat tyre and two severely injured children.

Driver who killed pregnant woman in motorway crash jailed

Adil Iqbal filmed himself speeding at 123mph before he ploughed into Frankie Jules-Hough's car.

www.bbc.co.uk

I’ve seen people on the motorway driving like this before, I’m sure most drivers have, and frankly it scares me. And I’ve been pulled up on the hard shoulder before, in a similarly vulnerable position.

I presume that the driver will have to reapply for a licence when released but surely this sort of driving should mean a lifetime ban? I note they had form for driving without insurance and racing on the roads.

I consider myself quite soft on law and order, but speeding and dangerous driving makes me incredibly angry.

 

[quiet guy]

12 year prison sentence and a 14 year driving ban, absolutely pathetic for a repeat driving offender and murderer

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

12 year prison sentence and a 14 year driving ban, absolutely pathetic for a repeat driving offender and murderer

Especially as the law was recently changed to give a life sentence for death by dangerous driving, was changed precisely for arseholes like this, should be life with a minimum rec of 14 with lifetime ban.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Two months before the M66 crash, he was given a warning by police after being stopped while racing an Audi on public roads.

Nobody needs a warning for using public roads as a racetrack. They need to be banned from driving as an absolute minimum.

 

[platinumsage]

Causing death by dangerous driving is triable only on indictment and so falls within the scope of the unduly lenient sentences review scheme. Any member of the public can therefore ask for the sentence to be reviewed by the attorney general. It only takes one request from anyone for the review to be actioned:

Ask for a Crown Court sentence to be reviewed

How to complain to the Attorney General's Office if you think someone's sentence is too low - and what happens if the Court of Appeal get involved

www.gov.uk

 

[Orang Utan]

12 year prison sentence and a 14 year driving ban, absolutely pathetic for a repeat driving offender and murderer

If those run concurrently, what’s the fucking point? The ban should start when he gets out!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

If those run concurrently, what’s the fucking point? The ban should start when he gets out!

It does start from the day he is released, this is a relatively recent change to the law, used to start from the date of conviction, which as you say is fucking pointless.

 

[SpookyFrank]

And yet they'll keep making cars designed to appeal to reckless, idiotic manbabies. Glorifying speed, aggressive driving and vroom vroom noises will continue to be an accepted part of our culture, just as it's accepted on here.

 

[hash tag]

Generally speaking, it's not the cars that cause the accidents it's the idiots behind the wheel.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Generally speaking, it's not the cars that cause the accidents it's the idiots behind the wheel.

The guy above was driving at 123mph. Somebody made a car that goes that fast, somebody else sold it to a murderous fuckwit. Both of those people are culpable.

 

[chandlerp]

Most modern cars will do that speed, it’s not the dealer’s fault at all.

 

[hash tag]

The guy above was driving at 123mph. Somebody made a car that goes that fast, somebody else sold it to a murderous fuckwit. Both of those people are culpable.

The kitchen shop that sold an adult a knife cannot be Held responsible if the buyer goes and stabs someone with it. If I legally sold someone a gun, I could not be held responsible if someone gets shot with it

 

[Spymaster]

The guy above was driving at 123mph. Somebody made a car that goes that fast, somebody else sold it to a murderous fuckwit. Both of those people are culpable.

Don't be a plank, Frank.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The kitchen shop that sold an adult a knife cannot be Held responsible if the buyer goes and stabs someone with it. If I legally sold someone a gun, I could not be held responsible if someone gets shot with it

A knife has a lawful purpose. An overpowered cuntmobile does not. Nobody with an interest in public safety would even want one.

 

[hash tag]

Oh Frank, you need help.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Oh Frank, you need help.

Why? Why would only a crazy person think that cars should not go faster than anyone can possibly operate them safely?

 

[chandlerp]

Literally every car sold can break the national speed limit

 

[SpookyFrank]

Literally every car sold can break the national speed limit

By 50mph?

Also, 'this problem is everywhere' does not mean, 'this is not a problem' it means the exact opposite of that.

 

[chandlerp]

By 50mph?

Also, 'this problem is everywhere' does not mean, 'this is not a problem' it means the exact opposite of that.

Yes, the vast majority of cars will hit 120

 

[hash tag]

20 mph is becoming The predominant speed limit around towns. I imagine the Ami, the twizzy and the new fiat can all exceed that.
Thinks for a minute, I could exceed that by a bicycle. On a bike I was stopped by the police once for going way too fast and I also had an insurance claim reduced for contributory negligence ( based on the evidence of other cyclists who witnessed what happened ).
Ps my bike incidents were years ago when speed limits were generally 30 MPH. Further more my driving licence is and has always been clean.

 

[InArduisFouette]

A knife has a lawful purpose. An overpowered cuntmobile does not. Nobody with an interest in public safety would even want one.

define 'over powered' here ..

 

[Elpenor]

Literally every car sold can break the national speed limit

What’s the justification for driving more than the speed limit though? That’s the thing I struggle with. I have thought of a few reasons

“Because I want to”
“Because my time is more important than other peoples safety”
“Ego, my car defines me”

Is there any other defence?

 

[platinumsage]

What’s the justification for driving more than the speed limit though? That’s the thing I struggle with. I have thought of a few reasons

“Because I want to”
“Because my time is more important than other peoples safety”
“Ego, my car defines me”

Is there any other defence?

The most common justification for breaking laws is that the law concerned is unreasonable or a broad brush that shouldn't apply in those specific circumstances. You do a line of coke because why should the government say what you can put up your nose? You piss in the doorway because where are the public toilets? You cycle without lights because you need to get home and you'll be careful.

Most people speed because they think it's safe for them to do so in that situation.

 

[Elpenor]

My point is about the direct impact speeding has on others, and the inability of people speeding to make accurate assessments of what is safe - or any assessment at all in the case of the bloke sentenced this week.

I don’t think a piss in a doorway has ever proved fatal for whoever the doorway belongs to, and your other examples ignore the fact that the impact of speeding is on other people, not the individual.

 

[chandlerp]

They do it because they're selfish cunts. It's certainly not the car's fault or the dealer's fault in any eventuality.