Dressing down for work
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i don't know why. what would be appropriate would be to return wages in real terms to what they were before the financial crisis pending an annual increase above inflation (rpi, not cpi)
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
I used to laugh at my managers for whom “casual” just meant their regular shirt, tie and shoes plus an ill-fitting seldom worn pair of jeans with razor sharp creases 
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
When I worked at Evil American Megacorp the dress code was 'smart casual' I wore the same outfit pretty much every day for 25 years, black pants and white short sleeved shirt (if I felt really rebellious occasionally wore a blue one) with a plain jumper or tank top in winter if it was cold. We had casual Fridays as well but I'd always dress the same since I just couldn't be arsed to put any effort into thinking about what I would wear.
The managers were the ones where you noticed it since whilst the rules didn't actually say so there was a fair amount of peer pressure to normally wear a suit.
The managers were the ones where you noticed it since whilst the rules didn't actually say so there was a fair amount of peer pressure to normally wear a suit.
TMI
Oh, you should've said!
Mrs Miggins
Eternal
Yeah I once got pulled up on a "Jeans for Genes" day when we were all supposed to come into work in jeans and one of the partners took umbrage that I was also wearing converse shoes "it's jeans - not jeans and trainers" he said and I pointed out that "yeah but jeans look completely ridiculous with "proper shoes" " and he looked a bit sheepish as that was what he was wearing. The dick.I used to laugh at my managers for whom “casual” just meant their regular shirt, tie and shoes plus an ill-fitting seldom worn pair of jeans with razor sharp creases
Somewhere I worked introduced dress down Fridays. Except then it turned out they didn't like how people were dressing down and sent out a load of 'guidelines' about what was and was not permitted.
So smart jeans were okay, other jeans not okay. Fashion trainers were okay, other trainers not okay etc etc. Of course then people asked them to define smart jeans and fashion trainers and all that and of course they couldn't.
So people ended up giving up on dressing down because seriously fuck that for a game of soldiers. Utterly ridiculous.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
We’d never get that from a local council!
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I tried a similar line of argument cos i had some trainers that went really well with my socks and shirt. It didn’t work!
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
In my last two jobs, the tie has lasted less than a day...
Epona
Sonic: 1 Nov 2006 - 8 Jan 2022
Ties are just weird though, what are they actually for?
Oh it is necessary to wear a strip of cloth hanging down ones front and knotted in the correct way and with the strip of cloth being an acceptable width and hanging at an acceptable length.
... I mean seriously... What???
I really wish someone would seriously point out how fucking ridiculous they are and everyone would sit up and agree and just ditch the fucking things - it is utterly ludicrous.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Yeah I have to wear a tie because I'm a teacher and we can't have the kids asking what they need to wear a tie for because nobody has an answer to that question.
Female teachers by contrast can basically wear whatever they like. It's good to expose kids to weird gendered double standards from an early age.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Ties change the whole look of a suit. They provide a visual focus. IMO suits look better with ties. That’s not to say you should be forced to wear one though, and schools are about 20 years behind on these things. Hardly anyone wears them in the private sector.
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Indeed. My kids have questioned why they have to wear school uniforms including ties, and I am always casual and tieless when I go to the office.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I don't wear a suit. Don't like having my forearms covered. I wear a shirt, waistcoat and trousers which looks fine with no tie.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I call ties ‘worker’s nooses’
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I got around one headmaster by wearing cravats instead. Much more comfortable and loose
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Very few people can carry off a cravat as well as Edward fox in day of the jackal
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
I'm not a fan of ties in the work situation.
They've been part of various uniforms I have had to wear over the years.
In most cases, that has been a clip-on, for safety reasons.
Just as well, as I have had an aggrieved passenger grab my tie on occasion, about three or four times in nearly three decades.
Usually because they were drunk &/or the train was late.
In one case the drunken sot was smacking passing backsides --- I told him to knock it off, or he was getting off at the next station. That unleased verbal abuse so I told him to be quiet. When I went past a few minutes later, he smacked my backside, hard. I didn't react, merely walked to the van, and banged the brake setter, to alert the driver. I indicated I wanted to stop at the next halt [in the middle of the woods, and at least a couple of miles to the road]. Train drew to stop, I got off and went to the engine to ask for the assistance of the impressively large crew person, who followed me to the passenger in question.
"Get Off, please" "No" "Get off" "No" "Get off, or be removed" "No" was the exchange. We then picked him up - firmly - by the elbows and deposited him on the halt platform, he lashed out and grabbed my tie, it came off and he threw it at the engine crew [the driver caught it "naughty, naughty" and gave it me back]. Accompanied by an impressive range of curses, the train departed. Other passengers thanked me for acting to remove him, and I found out that a couple wrote to my boss to that affect, as he had been misbehaving all the journey. [The second up train picked him up the following day, as he slept off the booze in the halt's shelter. Actually, although I didn't recognise him, he was a local. He came to find me to apologise, profusely, the next day - if he hadn't, he would have been banned].
They've been part of various uniforms I have had to wear over the years.
In most cases, that has been a clip-on, for safety reasons.
Just as well, as I have had an aggrieved passenger grab my tie on occasion, about three or four times in nearly three decades.
Usually because they were drunk &/or the train was late.
In one case the drunken sot was smacking passing backsides --- I told him to knock it off, or he was getting off at the next station. That unleased verbal abuse so I told him to be quiet. When I went past a few minutes later, he smacked my backside, hard. I didn't react, merely walked to the van, and banged the brake setter, to alert the driver. I indicated I wanted to stop at the next halt [in the middle of the woods, and at least a couple of miles to the road]. Train drew to stop, I got off and went to the engine to ask for the assistance of the impressively large crew person, who followed me to the passenger in question.
"Get Off, please" "No" "Get off" "No" "Get off, or be removed" "No" was the exchange. We then picked him up - firmly - by the elbows and deposited him on the halt platform, he lashed out and grabbed my tie, it came off and he threw it at the engine crew [the driver caught it "naughty, naughty" and gave it me back]. Accompanied by an impressive range of curses, the train departed. Other passengers thanked me for acting to remove him, and I found out that a couple wrote to my boss to that affect, as he had been misbehaving all the journey. [The second up train picked him up the following day, as he slept off the booze in the halt's shelter. Actually, although I didn't recognise him, he was a local. He came to find me to apologise, profusely, the next day - if he hadn't, he would have been banned].
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
When I worked in the clearing department of a well-known bank I had to wear a suit and tie. One evening my team went for a drink and it turned out one of them went out with someone in the Barclays clearing department who turned up in a shell suit (spring 98). I'd have been sent home apparently if I'd turned up like that. Haven't worn a suit (or tie) for work since 21.5.98
At least you didn't have to do the shell suit thing. Or only in your non-work time.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
(Puts on nerd hat..) Yep that’s from IMHO the last great Tom Baker story “The Deadly Assassin” which introduced the idea of “The Matrix” (decades before Keanu Reeves et al) and was considered so disturbing by Mary Whitehouse that her campaign led to the producer being sacked and the horror toned down in future episodes
strung out
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(puts on nerdier hat) actually that picture is of The Master from the episode The Keeper of Traken, as played by Geoffrey Beevers.(Puts on nerd hat..) Yep that’s from IMHO the last great Tom Baker story “The Deadly Assassin” which introduced the idea of “The Matrix” (decades before Keanu Reeves et al) and was considered so disturbing by Mary Whitehouse that her campaign led to the producer being sacked and the horror toned down in future episodes
The Master in The Deadly Assassin was played by Peter Pratt and looked like this.
