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That quote's brilliant. It's like he thinks the oil could have been physically taken out of the country so ISIS would have got to the oilfields only to be sorely disappointed.
I think, though you never can tell with Trump, he is implying that the US should not have withdrawn from occupation of Iraq, or maybe just annexed the oil fields and told the new Iraqi govt " sorry, we're keeping these". That really appears to be the level of his geopolitical understanding.
 
I think, though you never can tell with Trump, he is implying that the US should not have withdrawn from occupation of Iraq, or maybe just annexed the oil fields and told the new Iraqi govt " sorry, we're keeping these". That really appears to be the level of his geopolitical understanding.

Well, you never can tell, it's true, but the quote is "if you're going to get out, take the oil", which doesn't imply staying there or maintaining a massive military presence around the oil.
 
Well, you never can tell, it's true, but the quote is "if you're going to get out, take the oil", which doesn't imply staying there or maintaining a massive military presence around the oil.
Yes with Trump statements the debate is often not whether he is crazy or stupid, but simply over the level of his craziness and stupidity!
 
Nah he is the spit of General Custer but speaks and struts like Mussolini.

I see the brother (Joshua) of his new special adviser(Jared son in law married to Ivanka) was on.the Washington womens march today.

Family unity didnt last long.
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What does 'kept iraqi oil' "after its drawdown" even mean? The gaps in this reporting are as bad as his nonsense. It's foreign policy sounding gibberish.
For Trump nearly everything US Presidents do has been wrong because he knows he could do so much better and it would be "beautiful" if he's in charge. His politics is not really ideological mainly bragging about his personal superiority. He has a great man theory of history and the only great man is Donald.

I've had a go at interpreting that as himself being appalled at how badly US oil majors did on Iraqi oil deals. After trillions of tax dollars of US investment Baghdad and Irbil bargained hard and Iraqi politicians kept a generous skim for themselves. Or perhaps that the reconstruction was sold as being cost free because the oil would pay for it and he took that as meaning the war would turn a profit. That dog don't hunt.

The Donald appears genuinely incoherent about the why's and wherefores of war making. He's so unworldly that it seems he can only rationalise going to Baghdad as a transactional war for oil. He doesn't seem to get a loot of Iraq's hydrocarbons would probably have required a permanent costly US occupation. He was like 70%+ of Americans a war supporter but the wind went out if him rather quickly and he became a critic. Perhaps because he could see Iraq like some NYC slum area we once thought we could tart up and flip at a rich profit was a money hole. Sad! This is a man who sees the world through the lens of real estate deals. The oil's fixtures and fittings.
 
Assad will be loving it.
In his latest interview I posted up on the Syria thread yesterday Bashar is rather leery about Trump's intent in Syria.

No fool; Bashar lies smoothly himself and can spot an unreliable sneaky backstabber. Grew up around them and survived to head the Assad clan.
 
His politics is not really ideological mainly bragging about his personal superiority. He has a great man theory of history and the only great man is
Let's not underestimate his ideology, or that of his supporters. There's a reason europes far right leaders met yesterday and collectively prayed for some of his (and Farage's) magic to rub off on them
 
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Let's not underestimate his ideology, or that of his supporters. There's a reason europes far right leaders meet yesterday and collectively prayed for some of his (and Farage's) magic to rub off on them
Yes, the US far right made a similar error of judgement; they are Trump's useful idiots.

Trump's been all over the map politically being an old skool Dem with the usual small town racist inclinations most of his life. He's a shape shifter that took poses that suited his business. Running for President as an anti-GOP establishment candidate was one of them. He has gathered people around him with a variety of definite right agendas but often seems not really to agree with them. The most signifiant things about his domestic policy appointments are first rampant cronyism and then intent to destroy certain hated government agencies by placing opponents of their role at their head. In FP Rex Tillerson at Foggy Bottom says it all really. In vision terms Trump is about making an extractive buck and that's how he sees America. He's an unscrupulous robber baron like the men Lincoln worked for.

Beyond casual xenophobia there's not much to the Yang to Trump's Yin Putin ideologically either: he's just a multi-billionaire far richer than Trump out on the rob with the other siloviki. Is this a far right ideological thing? It's more the transition of politics to theatre by the very wealthy. Putin will put his assets behind anything that look like a potential political wrecking ball aimed at his enemies. Welcome to the new Gilded Age.

Odd really, no one mistook the rather similar Berlusconi for much of a far right ideolog. He was more a wealthy pussy grabbing playboy on the make and cheekily one step ahead of the law and a lot of Italians loved that.
 
Yes, the US far right made a similar error of judgement; they are Trump's useful idiots.

Trump's been all over the map politically being an old skool Dem with the usual small town racist inclinations most of his life. He's a shape shifter that took poses that suited his business. Running for President as an anti-GOP establishment candidate was one of them. He has gathered people around him with a variety of definite right agendas but often seems not really to agree with them. The most signifiant things about his domestic policy appointments are first rampant cronyism and then intent to destroy certain hated government agencies by placing opponents of their role at their head. In FP Rex Tillerson at Foggy Bottom says it all really. In vision terms Trump is about making an extractive buck and that's how he sees America. He's an unscrupulous robber baron like the men Lincoln worked for.

Beyond casual xenophobia there's not much to the Yang to Trump's Yin Putin ideologically either: he's just a multi-billionaire far richer than Trump out on the rob with the other siloviki. Is this a far right ideological thing? It's more the transition of politics to theatre by the very wealthy. Putin will put his assets behind anything that look like a potential political wrecking ball aimed at his enemies. Welcome to the new Gilded Age.

Odd really, no one mistook the rather similar Berlusconi for much of a far right ideolog. He was more a wealthy pussy grabbing playboy on the make and cheekily one step ahead of the law and a lot of Italians loved that.
that makes sense, though I worry in his twilight days he's got some kind of a vision he wants to share with the world.... Wether he believes it or not, hes definitely representing an ideological position
 
On National News Donald Trump praised Gen. George Custer during radio interview featuring ‘drunken Injun’ joke
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At the time of his 1993 radio interview, Trump aimed particular vitriol at the Mashantucket Pequot Tribal Nation’s casino in Connecticut, which he saw as operating in direct competition to his Atlantic City operations, which would eventually crumble.

“So, what is this now? A bunch of these drunken Injuns want to open a casino down there in New Jersey?” said Imus, in the opening moments of the interview, according to a transcript of the interview that is part of the congressional record.

“Well, it’s a battle that we’re fighting and I think it’s being successfully fought. A lot of the reservations are being….run by organized crime and organized crime elements, as you can imagine,” said Trump, in response. “I think you’ll see some very major things happening over the next couple of months.”

After ridiculing Native American claims of sovereignty—“Before it wasn’t a nation, before gambling. Now it’s this great sovereign nation”—Trump was asked by Imus if he’d consider joining a Native American tribe.

“Well, I think if we lost various things, I would perhaps become an Indian myself…I think I might have more Indian blood than a lot of the so-called Indians that are trying to open up the reservations,” said Trump, referring to the Mashantucket Pequot Nation. “I think if you’ve ever been up there, you would truly say that these are not Indians.”

During the interview, Trump also said he was furthering Custer’s fight after Imus continued to ask about the threat of Native American casinos in New Jersey.

“General George Custer was against it also and look what happened to him,” said Trump.
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The Little Big Horn was all about the Casino industry. Who knew?
 
Fuck me...

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Shouldn't be too hard to topple him over the edge. Sailing close to an aneurysm there.

That's an interesting first salvo against the media. What will be interesting is whether/how Trump goes after individual journalists. He won't leave it at issuing counter blasts, there will be some form of active revenge. Certainly a sign that he's not going to change his style in office.
 
On SWJ The Coming “Day One” Challenge to Trump’s Foreign Policy
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Trump’s Illiberal Foreign Policy?

A nascent Trump doctrine appears to be unpredictable, transactional, and unilateral. This creates uncertainty in the minds of allies and enemies alike as to whether the U.S. will pursue long-term interests and stability or abide by the whims of an erratic president who thinks that he can make deals with a world that is inherently subordinate to his desires. Moreover, the possibility of extensive conflicts of interest will leave observers to wonder whether Trump is acting for personal gain – or for his country’s interests. Already, hordes of foreign diplomats are flocking to Trump’s luxury hotel near the White House, hoping to curry favor with the incoming president. This is not a winning recipe for an American president to develop and conduct an effective foreign policy.

The inherent uncertainty built into Trump’s style of foreign policy threatens American power in fundamental ways. The president-elect’s proclamations erode American reliability and predictability, which are foundational to deterrence and compellence. Even if Trump wants to go it alone in the world, it is hard to see how the U.S. can exercise power under such conditions. Instead, the conduct of foreign policy is likely to involve domestic battles between a president lacking political acumen and a political and economic establishment that is desperate to hold on to America’s prominent and influential position. Most likely, Trump will then turn to the people who voted for him, using divisive populist rhetoric, leading to increased domestic political instability. Collectively, this could accelerate global uncertainty, creating significant opportunities for foes to seize upon.

Furthermore, Trump’s public persona, to which some have referred to as Nixon’s madman strategy, is dismissive of special relationships developed with countries over time that share political, diplomatic, cultural, military, and historical ties. Alliances that are foundations of American power in the international system appear destined to face an ahistorical transactional framework that has no consideration or basic precept of power. Trump’s conceptualization of the international system created by the United States and cultivated during the Cold War and after appears to be faltering.

Finally, Trump’s personalist worldview stands as a type of illiberal American foreign policy that will be remembered as the critical element in the decline of American power. Perhaps Trump thinks the world will remain relatively benign and supportive of what America wants, and that most will follow his rules and Tweets. This vision is blind to the realities of chaos and insecurity in the international system that E.H. Carr once cautioned.
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Trump anti-GOP establishment electoral strategy has one great flaw: he needs their collaboration in the Senate and Congress to be a strong President. What this article gets across is he may well be perceived as a weak and failing one who is not up to the job and that's dangerous in itself.

If you look at recent wars there's often a failure to articulate clearly interests or the assumption that enemies are rational at the root of them.

It's weak US diplomatic messaging to Saddam on Kuwait that led him to believe he good snatch its oil fields after such useful service against Revolutionary Iran. The US didn't see it that way. Even after Kuwait Saddam never thought the US would really be daft enough to take out the "Shield of the Sunnis" and put opposition of Shia exiles who were often close to Iran in power. After all a Bush had baulked at that before. That lead to a quarter century of fruitless war fighting over Iraq that still going on.

Similarly the signals that the British gave out about The Falklands suggested a lack of interest that encouraged the belief in the Argentine Junta that a London retreating from Empire would meekly accept their theft. This in turn rested on an arrogant British assumption that some jumped up Colonel Johnnies would never dare tweak The Crown's tail. It didn't help that elements in Reagan's administration (a very loose ship) took different sides on the matter.

Trump's hard on a China the US is rather reliant on and putty soft on a rather cheekier Russia stance is like him unknowingly wearing a similar "Kick Me!" sign.
 
That's an interesting first salvo against the media. What will be interesting is whether/how Trump goes after individual journalists. He won't leave it at issuing counter blasts, there will be some form of active revenge. Certainly a sign that he's not going to change his style in office.

He will be impeached I reckon. His support is already very low, and just anecdotally, Trump supporters I've encountered online seem to be on the defensive and seem surprisingly easy to shut up, so I think his support could plummet even further if his behaviour doesn't change, which so far it shows no signs of. If/when Trump starts going after individual journalists, or trying to punish media outlets, then that will be it for him. The GOP will feel inclined to do something to salvage their reputation.
 
He will be impeached I reckon. His support is already very low, and just anecdotally, Trump supporters I've encountered online seem to be on the defensive and seem surprisingly easy to shut up, so I think his support could plummet even further if his behaviour doesn't change, which so far it shows no signs of. If/when Trump starts going after individual journalists, or trying to punish media outlets, then that will be it for him. The GOP will feel inclined to do something to salvage their reputation.
or he might just have a heart attack or similar.
 
In The Independent Trump's inauguration TV ratings sink 18 percent from Obama's in 2009
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The record is still currently held by Ronald Reagan, whose inauguration saw a whopping 41.8 million viewers tune in; George W. Bush's 2001 inauguration averaged 29 million viewers, Bill Clinton's in 1993 saw 29.7 million viewers, George W.H. Bush's saw a modest 23.3 million viewers in 1989, and Jimmy Carter reached 34 million viewers.
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Fake news!

Rather close to Bush's in 2001 at 30.6 million but well behind Obama's at 38 million.
 
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