Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

[bimble]

"Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order, Surrounded By Men

Bannon's horrible face in that photo. Smugly victorious, or like a proud evil Dad.

Front page of Breitbart is an attack on the planned parenthood organisation.

 

[DotCommunist]

So, why do I feel differently about Spencer? Or people of his ilk?
I am still not quite sure.

because he's a nazi cunt basically?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

re: Richard Spencer. I've been trying to figure this out. I've heard / read a lot from men who I know would gladly punch other men in the face, for personal slights, say that we shouldn't condone this violence.

I hear myself saying I have no problem with it. Meanwhile, I abhor violence. I have spoken out about the fact that as a woman, I really don't appreciate men trying to "fix" things for me through violence.

Case in point, I once had a random man in some woods say some very creepy sexual things to me, and ask me to come lay down with him. Very upset, I ran off and told my friends what had happened.
Before I could blink, the men in the group got riled up and went off to find the creepy guy in the woods and god knows what.
I was left there, stunned, feeling like "wait a minute, this is not what I wanted at all!" I didn't want to feel that the solution to me feeling unsafe by one man was for a bunch of other men to go intimidate him.
Because, of course, that leaves me feeling at the mercy of physically stronger people either being "on my side" or not. This was not comforting in any way. My feeling was / is, that I want to live in a world where I feel safe regardless of who's on my side, male or female.

So, why do I feel differently about Spencer? Or people of his ilk?
I am still not quite sure.
I think part of it is that I would gladly punch his little smug face myself, if given the opportunity, regardless of the outcome. Whereas, in most cases, I would not feel ok about violence.
That I wouldn't even worry about my personal safety in such a case.
It would be more important to stop normalizing what is really toxic to huge numbers of people, rather than just one at a time.
I still can't quite explain.
I am just really thankful of that one guy for punching him

it's something about power, and power being given when it's not due

It might also be something about fear. Men like Spencer get to walk around feeling powerful while making others feel afraid. That punch to the head is a reminder that he's not immune to fear.

 

[camouflage]

Sleep with one eye open, gripping your pillow tight.

exit light
enter night

 

[camouflage]

Bannon's horrible face in that photo. Smugly victorious, or like a proud evil Dad.View attachment 99287

Front page of Breitbart is an attack on the planned parenthood organisation.

"like a proud evil Dad"

"my creature's all grown up, look at it's little tenticles, writhing and waving and dripping slime... its little beak snapping at the smell of blood". sighs, smiles, warmth inside.

 

[camouflage]

re: Richard Spencer. I've been trying to figure this out. I've heard / read a lot from men who I know would gladly punch other men in the face, for personal slights, say that we shouldn't condone this violence.

I hear myself saying I have no problem with it. Meanwhile, I abhor violence. I have spoken out about the fact that as a woman, I really don't appreciate men trying to "fix" things for me through violence.

Case in point, I once had a random man in some woods say some very creepy sexual things to me, and ask me to come lay down with him. Very upset, I ran off and told my friends what had happened.
Before I could blink, the men in the group got riled up and went off to find the creepy guy in the woods and god knows what.
I was left there, stunned, feeling like "wait a minute, this is not what I wanted at all!" I didn't want to feel that the solution to me feeling unsafe by one man was for a bunch of other men to go intimidate him.

Speaking as a bloke... I don't think it's about you and what you may or may not want when that happened. "I demand satisfaction" deulists would say in ages past, as in that it's a call from within, but it's also a social instinct and not just a male one at that.

As far as boffing nazi's in the face... on principal I agree with the emotion but political violence is troublesome. Frankly I don't think it's a good idea to take that approach to the problem unless it's time for all out war, "grab your gun and disappear" and expect the same in return.

 

[J Ed]

Centrist Democrats continue their rapid descent into a sort of weird racialised neoliberal white skin privilege cult

DNC Chair Candidate: My Job Is To Tell White People When To Shut Their Mouths

SALLY BOYNTON BROWN: I’m a white woman, I don’t get it...

My job is to listen and be a voice and shut other white people down when they want to interrupt...

We pull people in and they are volunteers. They don’t know anything and then we send them out to have conversations with people, hard conversations. We promote them to chair of a party where they have power and they have no clue what they are doing. We have to, at the DNC, provide training. We have to teach them how to communicate, how to be sensitive and how to shut their mouths if they are white. So I think I made my point.

Who is this appealing to?

 

[LDC]

SFrankly I don't think it's a good idea to take that approach to the problem unless it's time for all out war, "grab your gun and disappear" and expect the same in return.

Unless you take that approach you hasten the likelihood of all out war becoming a reality.

 

[J Ed]

 

[1927]

If Trump gets taken down because of Russia links, which probably isn't going to happen, all the US will need to do to punish Russia is to take away Trump's American passport and stick him on a plane to Moscow.

Can you see a flaw in that plan?

 

[bimble]

J Ed Some people have totally bought into the kompromat thing, and some of them went out on Saturday, with placards.
Equally, some people totally bought into Trump's hate-mongering, and voted for him because of what he says about muslims and about building a wall..
If it is not ok to smear trump voters as racists then its equally not ok to go out of your way to keep on seeking out images to try to suggest that Saturday's protests were mostly a bunch of loons who loved Clinton & think its all about Putin pulling the strings.
I hope you can see why what you're doing is a bit hypocritical and kind of offensive to women who went out to protest that day for reasons in no way related to anything to do with Russia.

 

[J Ed]

J Ed Some people have totally bought into the kompromat thing, and some of them went out on Saturday, with placards.
Equally, some people totally bought into Trump's hate-mongering, and voted for him because of what he says about muslims and about building a wall..
If it is not ok to smear trump voters as racists then its equally not ok to go out of your way to keep on seeking out images to try to suggest that Saturday's protests were mostly a bunch of loons who loved Clinton & think its all about Putin pulling the strings.
I hope you can see why what you're doing is a bit hypocritical and kind of offensive to women who went out to protest that day for reasons in no way related to anything to do with Russia.

You are the one inferring what I am doing by posting these images despite the fact that I explicitly said otherwise. Also in case you are having difficulties in this regard that's a picture of a man and a male child.

 

[butchersapron]

...or maybe, given the misspelling on the banner it was a comment on the one posted on the last page?

 

[redsquirrel]

snip

Hopefully the prick will get the same medicine as Spencer.

 

[bimble]

You are the one inferring what I am doing by posting these images despite the fact that I explicitly said otherwise. Also in case you are having difficulties in this regard that's a picture of a man and a male child.

So .. What is your intention? (seriously)
Are you trying to impress upon us that some of the people who do not trust Trump have bought into the kompromat thing?
This is not new information.
I did not see a single Russia- related placard in London that day, and there were hundreds of signs.
You are searching for images from Saturdays massive global protests which show placards related to Russian conspiracies and posting them here:
If you could spell out why you are doing this, what your motivation is, I'd like to know.

 

[hot air baboon]

because he's a nazi cunt basically?

...how do we know the assailant had any idea who it was...maybe he just objected to his haircut...?

 

[J Ed]

So .. What is your intention? (seriously)
Are you trying to impress upon us that some of the people who do not trust Trump have bought into the kompromat thing?
This is not new information.
I did not see a single Russia- related placard in London that day, and there were hundreds of signs.
You are searching for images from Saturdays massive global protests which show placards related to Russian conspiracies and posting them here:
If you could spell out why you are doing this, what your motivation is, I'd like to know.

I just find it incredible. The stage of history we are in, the political positions that are being taken. Just look at the picture, take a step back and think about it.

 

[teqniq]

Possibly this is deserving of it's own thread, anyway this just appeared on my Twitter feed. Seems some Democrats are having a 'wake up and smell the coffee moment'. Anyone know anything about this lot and whether they are likely to have any real impact?

https://justicedemocrats.com/platform/

/derail

 

[J Ed]

Possibly this is deserving of it's own thread, anyway this just appeared on my Twitter feed. Seems some Democrats are having a 'wake up and smell the coffee moment'. Anyone know anything about this lot and whether they are likely to have any real impact?

https://justicedemocrats.com/platform/

/derail

looks like a bunch of bigots who just want to redistribute money to racists to me, best to stick with hillary clinton and not reward bad behaviour like that

 

[teqniq]

Are you just being cynical or sarcastic? 'Cos you've been doing rather a lot of that lately, so much so that I am having difficulty in telling (no offence intended).

 

[J Ed]

Are you just being cynical or sarcastic? 'Cos you've been doing rather a lot of that lately, so much so that I am having difficulty in telling (no offence intended).

Sarcastic. The Justice Democrats or something like it seems like the Democrats' only hope electorally imo, seems like something that has already been working on a small scale in e.g California.

 

[teqniq]

Ta.

 

[bimble]

The Brit Who Tried to Kill Trump
worth it if you have half an hour

 

[a_chap]

I really wish I had a spare half an hour

 

[mojo pixy]

I ''liked'' that picture of Putin presenting child-Trump. Doesn't matter that it's not true, it's just funny.

 

[DaveCinzano]

My money would be on him dying on the Oval Office toilet within his first year in office and becoming known to future generations mostly as a ghost rumored to haunt the White House's plumbing.

Personally leading an invasion of Bolivia and/or Colombia, and going out like a rich white splice-up of Tony Montana and Allende with undertones of a less loveable Major Kong

 

[Miss Caphat]

Speaking as a bloke... I don't think it's about you and what you may or may not want when that happened. "I demand satisfaction" deulists would say in ages past, as in that it's a call from within, but it's also a social instinct and not just a male one at that.

As far as boffing nazi's in the face... on principal I agree with the emotion but political violence is troublesome. Frankly I don't think it's a good idea to take that approach to the problem unless it's time for all out war, "grab your gun and disappear" and expect the same in return.

"Speaking as a bloke... I don't think it's about you and what you may or may not want when that happened"

But see, it SHOULD be (about what I want, in the case of my vigilante friends). And in the case of Spencer, etc, it SHOULD be about what minorities would want, rather than some suburban white kid with something to prove.

So, yeah I guess I might be being a bit hypocritical. But still, very satisfying watching someone who wants to take other people's power away while being totally oblivious to his own EXTREME privilege for even being allowed to say so publicly.

 

[NoXion]

"Speaking as a bloke... I don't think it's about you and what you may or may not want when that happened"

But see, it SHOULD be (about what I want, in the case of my vigilante friends). And in the case of Spencer, etc, it SHOULD be about what minorities would want, rather than some suburban white kid with something to prove.

So, yeah I guess I might be being a bit hypocritical. But still, very satisfying watching someone who wants to take other people's power away while being totally oblivious to his own EXTREME privilege for even being allowed to say so publicly.

It's not necessarily about having "something to prove" though. I for example find outspoken white supremacists to be genuinely offensive. I don't see how my being "white" makes my opinion any more or less valid than anyone else's. After all, those kind of twats are claiming to speak for people like me, when I want nothing to do with their repulsive ideology.

 

[weltweit]

I wonder if Trump is clever enough to get what he wants while avoiding an outright confrontation with China. At first glance with his disputing the crowd figures at his own ceremony it seems he is unable to turn the other cheek so how he might create a win win with China seems difficult.

 

[Yossarian]

Personally leading an invasion of Bolivia and/or Colombia, and going out like a rich white splice-up of Tony Montana and Allende with undertones of a less loveable Major Kong

Think he'd be more likely to be found hiding in a drain Gadhafi-style, trying to surrender while holding an unfired golden gun. Though tagging along with an invasion and trying to act like he's leading it does sound a lot like Trump's style. "You guys go on ahead, these goddamn bone spurs are acting up again..."