Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

[butchersapron]

Some scary people on this thread. Seems like they control a lot of the media too.

 

[snadge]

But luckily this is the internet so we can all say whatever we like and none of it matters.

Don't know if you said that in jest but do remember, if done intelligently ( or even moronic), anything that is done or said, on the internet, doesn't really matter.

Why may you ask, answer for that would be that rule 43 took care of that a long time ago.

 

[snadge]

Some scary people on this thread. Seems like they control a lot of the media too.

What do you actually mean by that? Maybe name them.

 

[redsquirrel]

... and that was CRI's point exactly. People are making lists, demanding names, wanting apologies, getting upset over imagined slights,.... etc etc etc.

It's the internet. Nothing matters. Just let it go.

So you don't think it's out of order for me to purposely misquote you? To claim that you've said things you haven't? To make false allegations about people? That all that is fine because this is the internet?

I mean if nothing else this idea that "nothing matters" makes any sort of communication impossible.

EDIT: And the above nonsense is completely at odds with all the Trump lies! stuff. If it's just the internet why are you, CRI, etc complaining about what Trump posts on his twitter feed.

 

[butchersapron]

What do you actually mean by that? Maybe name them.

CRI, TOMus, JC3, 8den

You - you're nothing - i didn't even know you were on the thread.

 

[yield]

... and that was CRI's point exactly. People are making lists, demanding names, wanting apologies, getting upset over imagined slights,.... etc etc etc.

It's the internet. Nothing matters. Just let it go.

If that's the case why have you made over 13,000 post here?

 

[snadge]

CRI, TOMus, JC3, 8den

All four are ineffectual, their arguments are berift of content, they are reachrounding each other like a social justice version of the 7 dwarfs.

 

[butchersapron]

All four are ineffectual, their arguments are berift of content, they are reachrounding each other like a social justice version of the 7 dwarfs.

Not really interested in joining in with you whoever you are. So fuck off.

 

[maomao]

Don't know if you said that in jest but do remember, if done intelligently ( or even moronic), anything that is done or said, on the internet, doesn't really matter.

Why may you ask, answer for that would be that rule 43 took care of that a long time ago.

The point is we can have a proper conversation 'like we're all here' or we can have cheap smears and insults. It doesn't matter but you can't have your cake and eat it.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

So you don't think it's out of order for me to purposely misquote you? To claim that you've said things you haven't? That all that is fine because this is the internet?

I mean if nothing else this idea that "nothing matters" makes any sort of communication impossible.

I think that there's a small group of posters for whom this is a game; and the game is more fun for them when it isn't about discussing issues, but instead becomes about some sort of personal grudge or attack.

The way the game is played, is to scour what other people have said, until something is found for which the searcher can take offence at, get into high dudgeon over, take umbrage at, or otherwise be outraged by.

The searcher then demands lists, or apologies, or explanations or whatever - in other words, the discussion stops being about the topic, and instead becomes about the manufactured offence, and about the allegedly offending poster.

The stakes are raised when a handful of the searcher's friends join in; and many pages of bunfighting ensues.

If you personally haven't been accused of whatever it is - Trump supporter, or class warrior, or whatever the offence du jour is - then why get involved?

Discussing the actual topic seems way more interesting to me, than watching the same old bunfight get played out amongst the same old players.

 

[butchersapron]

I think that there's a small group of posters for whom this is a game; and the game is more fun for them when it isn't about discussing issues, but instead becomes about some sort of personal grudge or attack.

The way the game is played, is to scour what other people have said, until something is found for which the searcher can take offence at, get into high dudgeon over, take umbrage at, or otherwise be outraged by.

The searcher then demands lists, or apologies, or explanations or whatever - in other words, the discussion stops being about the topic, and instead becomes about the manufactured offence, and about the allegedly offending poster.

The stakes are raised when a handful of the searcher's friends join in; and many pages of bunfighting ensues.

If you personally haven't been accused of whatever it is - Trump supporter, or class warrior, or whatever the offence du jour is - then why get involved?

Discussing the actual topic seems way more interesting to me, than watching the same old bunfight get played out amongst the same old players.

Evidence this. Now.

 

[butchersapron]

I think that there's a small group of posters for whom this is a game; and the game is more fun for them when it isn't about discussing issues, but instead becomes about some sort of personal grudge or attack.

The way the game is played, is to scour what other people have said, until something is found for which the searcher can take offence at, get into high dudgeon over, take umbrage at, or otherwise be outraged by.

The searcher then demands lists, or apologies, or explanations or whatever - in other words, the discussion stops being about the topic, and instead becomes about the manufactured offence, and about the allegedly offending poster.

The stakes are raised when a handful of the searcher's friends join in; and many pages of bunfighting ensues.

If you personally haven't been accused of whatever it is - Trump supporter, or class warrior, or whatever the offence du jour is - then why get involved?

Discussing the actual topic seems way more interesting to me, than watching the same old bunfight get played out amongst the same old players.

You, of all people, want tightly monitored threads - after your 15 year deliberate derailing of threads that you don't like? Fuck off.

 

[snadge]

Not really interested in joining in with you whoever you are. So fuck off.

Erm no, you are one of the few people that actually know who I am, or is your memory so vague, I have no beef with you at all, well I do, because you tried to dox me, on these boards when you where pissed up, I agree with a lot of your thoughts but you have no right telling me to fuck off.

 

[yield]

I think that there's a small group of posters for whom this is a game; and the game is more fun for them when it isn't about discussing issues, but instead becomes about some sort of personal grudge or attack.

The way the game is played, is to scour what other people have said, until something is found for which the searcher can take offence at, get into high dudgeon over, take umbrage at, or otherwise be outraged by.

The searcher then demands lists, or apologies, or explanations or whatever - in other words, the discussion stops being about the topic, and instead becomes about the manufactured offence, and about the allegedly offending poster.

The stakes are raised when a handful of the searcher's friends join in; and many pages of bunfighting ensues.

If you personally haven't been accused of whatever it is - Trump supporter, or class warrior, or whatever the offence du jour is - then why get involved?

Discussing the actual topic seems way more interesting to me, than watching the same old bunfight get played out amongst the same old players.

When? We've both been here for long time.

Quotes or go away.

 

[butchersapron]

Erm no, you are one of the few people that actually know who I am, or is your memory so vague, I have no beef with you at all, well I do, because you tried to dox me, on these boards when you where pissed up, I agree with a lot of your thoughts but you have no right telling me to fuck off.

I have no idea who you are and have never tried to dox anyone ever.

 

[CRI]

All four are ineffectual, their arguments are berift of content, they are reachrounding each other like a social justice version of the 7 dwarfs.

 

[redsquirrel]

I think that there's a small group of posters for whom this is a game; and the game is more fun for them when it isn't about discussing issues, but instead becomes about some sort of personal grudge or attack.

The way the game is played, is to scour what other people have said, until something is found for which the searcher can take offence at, get into high dudgeon over, take umbrage at, or otherwise be outraged by.

The searcher then demands lists, or apologies, or explanations or whatever - in other words, the discussion stops being about the topic, and instead becomes about the manufactured offence, and about the allegedly offending poster.

The stakes are raised when a handful of the searcher's friends join in; and many pages of bunfighting ensues.

If you personally haven't been accused of whatever it is - Trump supporter, or class warrior, or whatever the offence du jour is - then why get involved?

Discussing the actual topic seems way more interesting to me, than watching the same old bunfight get played out amongst the same old players.

Well the above really is a load of apologism. Asking people to defend the claims they make is blocking discussion but making false claims isn't. Truely pathetic even leaving aside the dishonesty.

The reason why people have taken exception to the false claims of you, CRI, etc is precisely because they do destroy any attempt at discussion.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You, of all people, want tightly monitored threads - after your 15 year deliberate derailing of threads that you don't like? Fuck off.

I've tried to stop doing that, because I've decided it isn't/wasn't right.

You seem to be saying that my past bad behavior gives the green light to others to behave badly.

I'd say there are a lot of holes in an ethical system like that.

 

[snadge]

I have no idea who you are and have never tried to dox anyone ever.

Ok,I'll accept that, even though I know the truth, we'll leave it at that, now back to this thread, DO NOT ever tell me whether I can or cannot post in a thread.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Asking people to defend the claims they make is blocking discussion but making false claims isn't.

But if these false claims weren't made about you, why get involved?

 

[butchersapron]

Erm no, you are one of the few people that actually know who I am, or is your memory so vague, I have no beef with you at all, well I do, because you tried to dox me, on these boards when you where pissed up, I agree with a lot of your thoughts but you have no right telling me to fuck off.

I have no idea who you are

Ok,I'll accept that, even though I know the truth, we'll leave it at that, now back to this thread, DO NOT ever tell me whether I can or cannot post in a thread.

No, you made up a serious claim - stand by it or take it back. Fucking weirdo shit.

 

[butchersapron]

But if these false claims weren't made about you, why get involved?

Why indeed? Stand aside light-man, stand aside.

 

[snadge]

But if these false claims weren't made about you, why get involved?

Exactly the same as why I called those people cowards, it's the fucking internet, most people spout what they WISH they were able to present in the RW to people face to face but they haven't got the fucking belief in themselves to do it.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Asking people to defend the claims they make

Just for the sake of argument, let's suppose someone accused you of being a Trump supporter, or a class warrior.

Isn't it sufficient for you to reply with 'No, you're talking bollocks: I'm not a Trump supporter'. ?

It's not clear what you're asking - do you want people to go back through 12000 posts and come up with something to support saying that you're a Trump supporter?

Why?

If they're mistaken, just say so.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Why indeed? Stand aside light-man, stand aside.

But I am involved, apparently. Redsquirrel said so in post 12611. I've apparently been making false claims.

And he's demanding satisfaction.

 

[butchersapron]

But I am involved, apparently. Redsquirrel said so in post 12611. I've apparently been making false claims.

And he's demanding satisfaction.

I look forward to you not sticking your beak in all over the place then.

 

[snadge]

I have no idea who you are


No, you made up a serious claim - stand by it or take it back. Fucking weirdo shit.

Ok a long time ago, we had a pretty serious argument about copyright, I self doxed myself to you to prove that I was telling the truth about getting slammed with lawyer shite about copyright and deleted the information before the thread was followed, you quoted and it took PM's for you to delete the quote.

 

[butchersapron]

Ok a long time ago, we had a pretty serious argument about copyright, I self doxed myself to you to prove that I was telling the truth about getting slammed with lawyer shite about copyright and deleted the information before the thread was followed, you quoted and it took PM's for you to delete the quote.

wtf are you on about? You asked me to delete something that was quoted that wasn't from me - and i did. And this in your mind is me trying to dox you?

I don't remember you.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I look forward to you not sticking your beak in all over the place then.

I'll repeat: at post 12611, I'm named specifically as being someone who apparently made false claims.

I'd prefer not to stick my beak into the childish bunfight, but there you go.

You haven't been specifically called out in the same way. Maybe it's your beak in the wrong place then.

 

[butchersapron]

I'll repeat: at post 12611, I'm named specifically as being someone who apparently made false claims.

I'd prefer not to stick my beak into the childish bunfight, but there you go.

You haven't been specifically called out in the same way. Maybe it's your beak in the wrong place then.

Literally...what?