J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
I believe there were WMDs in Iraq
Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!
- Thread starter weltweit
- Start date
- Status
I believe there were WMDs in Iraq
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
I believe that "class" and reducing everything down to "class" is identity politics.
Good point, but I find it strange that he was only provided info damaging to Hillary......or possibly had info damaging to Trump also and chose not to leak it. I suppose we'll never know. And again, his relationship with Fox News makes me suspicious of his motives.
CRI
Registered Chooser
To sum up:
This is probably part of why it's been abolished. The inside story behind the strange US government ethics tweets singing Donald Trump’s praises
On November 30, the official Twitter account of the Office of Government Ethics let loose with a stream of downright Trumpian tweets, congratulating the president-elect for deciding to divest himself from his business holdings to avoid conflicts of interest. There was only problem: Trump hadn’t actually decided to do that.
For folks interested, this is one of the cases that led to the founding of the OGE. Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal
The Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal was a United States political scandal first exposed in 2005 relating to the work performed by political lobbyists Jack Abramoff, Ralph E. Reed, Jr., Grover Norquist and Michael Scanlon on Native American casino gambling interests for an estimated $85 million in fees. Abramoff and Scanlon grossly overbilled their clients, secretly splitting the multimillion-dollar profits. In one case, they were secretly orchestrating lobbying against their own clients in order to force them to pay for lobbying services.
In the course of the scheme, the lobbyists were accused of illegally giving gifts and making campaign donations to legislators in return for votes or support of legislation. Representative Bob Ney (R-OH) and two aides to Tom DeLay (R-TX) have been directly implicated; other politicians have various ties.
CRI
Registered Chooser
And if you have the chrome extension, you'll see a lovely picture of two sleeping tabby kittens in this post!To sum up:
This is probably part of why it's been abolished. The inside story behind the strange US government ethics tweets singing Donald Trump’s praises
On November 30, the official Twitter account of the Office of Government Ethics let loose with a stream of downright Trumpian tweets, congratulating the president-elect for deciding to divest himself from his business holdings to avoid conflicts of interest. There was only problem: Trump hadn’t actually decided to do that.
For folks interested, this is one of the cases that led to the founding of the OGE. Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal
The Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal was a United States political scandal first exposed in 2005 relating to the work performed by political lobbyists Jack Abramoff, Ralph E. Reed, Jr., Grover Norquist and Michael Scanlon on Native American casino gambling interests for an estimated $85 million in fees. Abramoff and Scanlon grossly overbilled their clients, secretly splitting the multimillion-dollar profits. In one case, they were secretly orchestrating lobbying against their own clients in order to force them to pay for lobbying services.
In the course of the scheme, the lobbyists were accused of illegally giving gifts and making campaign donations to legislators in return for votes or support of legislation. Representative Bob Ney (R-OH) and two aides to Tom DeLay (R-TX) have been directly implicated; other politicians have various ties.
Otherwise, you see the Buzzfeed summary from Reuters.
CRI
Registered Chooser
I agree. Any analysis of structural oppression and privilege that insists one facet of identity trumps all others and/or if that one form of oppression is abolished, all others will likewise disappear is politics based on identity.
It's hogwash, too.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Take back america.
CRI
Registered Chooser
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
The irony of it is; one assumes all proponents of the "class" struggle would identify as working class. Therefore, by it's very nature - it simply has to be "identity politics".
This is not, of course, to dismiss the treatment of marginalised people in the US, or indeed, anywhere else in the world by the elite/rulers.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
To sum up:
This is probably part of why it's been abolished. The inside story behind the strange US government ethics tweets singing Donald Trump’s praises
On November 30, the official Twitter account of the Office of Government Ethics let loose with a stream of downright Trumpian tweets, congratulating the president-elect for deciding to divest himself from his business holdings to avoid conflicts of interest. There was only problem: Trump hadn’t actually decided to do that.
For folks interested, this is one of the cases that led to the founding of the OGE. Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal
The Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal was a United States political scandal first exposed in 2005 relating to the work performed by political lobbyists Jack Abramoff, Ralph E. Reed, Jr., Grover Norquist and Michael Scanlon on Native American casino gambling interests for an estimated $85 million in fees. Abramoff and Scanlon grossly overbilled their clients, secretly splitting the multimillion-dollar profits. In one case, they were secretly orchestrating lobbying against their own clients in order to force them to pay for lobbying services.
In the course of the scheme, the lobbyists were accused of illegally giving gifts and making campaign donations to legislators in return for votes or support of legislation. Representative Bob Ney (R-OH) and two aides to Tom DeLay (R-TX) have been directly implicated; other politicians have various ties.
Congress changed its mind.
New Republican Congress reverses ethics move after outcry - BBC News
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
PLEASE IDENTIFY ONE SINGLE PERSON OR GROUP (NOT NECESSARILY ON THIS THREAD) WHO BELIEVES IN THE STRAWMAN POSITION YOU AND MULTIPLE OTHER POSTERS CONTINUALLY PUSH
why would you assume that?
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Good call. Didn't expect that.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Hey pal. I was told to read more and educate myself by my superiors here. So I looked up identity politics and bang! zoom! hit the nail on the head.
Ah, 2017... another year of digression, aggression and infighting. Yes.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
So you can't find even one person or group then.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Same with the Ford plant.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Yossarian
⏭️
Trump tweeted against the move, though he apparently didn't know what the Office of Congressional Ethics was called and referred to it as the Independent Ethics Watchdog.
A lot of These House Republicans aren't really in the habit of obeying GOP leaders or anybody else, wonder when they will stop obeying Trump every time he snaps his fingers.
It's almost as if it was the plan all along.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I hate the use of the word surrogate here more than anything.
CRI
Registered Chooser
Well, you get men who support feminism and white folks who fight racism, and middle and upper class people who want to end unfair class privilege.
My beef is that there isn't one "struggle" to rule them all, so to speak. Denying class struggle has anything to do with identity is just a way of trying to set class oppression above and apart from other forms of oppression.
maomao
普費斯
CRI
Registered Chooser
I suspect this will become a pattern.
- President and/or congress will propose to do something that's appalling to many people.
- Those people will write/phone/email legislators, demonstrate, take to social media, etc.
- Most of the time they'll be ignored or worse, vilified by the mainstream media and government.
- Now and again, they'll succeed and stop the thing, or more likely, just water it down.
- The opponents will be thrilled by the results, maybe start to believe things won't be as bad as they thought.
- President will claim credit for whatever it was that was done. His supporters will applaud his wisdom.
- Policy will quietly slip through a few months later with little protest.
House Republicans Ditch Plan to Weaken Congressional Ethics Office
Last edited:
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Feminism and racism are hardly "petty"
CRI
Registered Chooser
Buddy, I don't know you or anyone here from Adam. You don't know me. I don't get why the hell you're so upset about what you think a total stranger has said about you and your mates on an anonymous message board. It's like some drunk guy in a pub shouting, "Who you calling a fat bastard? Did you call me a fat bastard? I'll do you, I will . . ." Either that, or the hall monitor demanding apologies for not respecting their superior status.
I don't give a monkey's arse what you or anyone else says about me here. I'd suggest you adopt the same approach, or put me on ignore.
CRI
Registered Chooser
That is true, but oppression is also an essential and structural part of patriarchy, and of white supremacy. Or, are you arguing that misogyny and racism are "petty prejudices?"
- Status
Similar threads
