hot air baboon
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...presumably this is why they kept Joe Biden off the ticket...
What are we going to do about Creepy Uncle Joe Biden?
What are we going to do about Creepy Uncle Joe Biden?
Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!
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8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
This Joe Biden?
VP Joe Biden: Trump's remarks "textbook definition of sexual assault" - CNNPolitics.com
Biden attacks Trump for boasting about not paying taxes - video
There was strong talk about Biden running, Obama even offered to help personally fund it, but after the death of his son to brain cancer he's focusing on fundraising and campaigning for better cancer treatment as a post whitehouse career. Can't argue with that.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Trump has gone full Millhouse on us
Hey Millhouse was cool.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
They got to you too.
Johnny Canuck3
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Tankus
Amused OAP
sorry ...closed my eyes ...and I could hear the exact same wavering warble as Tony blair used in his peoples princes wordsalad post diana death .....
uncanny ...and totally unigate
milk that cow ...it needs milking ..milk it real good , milk it with me , milk it milk it
Johnny Canuck3
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/12/opinion/daughters-and-trumps.html
Interesting article. It points out how, when public figures lambast Trump for his sexist comments, they often begin by saying 'As a father of daughters'.
The author questions why it's necessary to establish one's credentials as a father or husband, before denouncing Trump's entitled sexism and claims of having committed sexual assault. The author makes the point that any right thinking person, regardless of marital status, or parental status, should be shocked, angered and disgusted by Trump.
Interesting article. It points out how, when public figures lambast Trump for his sexist comments, they often begin by saying 'As a father of daughters'.
The author questions why it's necessary to establish one's credentials as a father or husband, before denouncing Trump's entitled sexism and claims of having committed sexual assault. The author makes the point that any right thinking person, regardless of marital status, or parental status, should be shocked, angered and disgusted by Trump.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
a few american comedians have pointed this out, the repub condemners laying out the family man credentials for no discernable reason. One wag said 'I'm pretty sure most people in america have at least one female relative'
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8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
It think the reason they do that is because their politics is all centered around self-interest. Many of the modern members of the party are Ayn Rand devotees. She was all about that. When things like this come up, they have to set aside their self-interest for a microsecond. The line "as the father of daughters" makes doing that tolerable and acceptable. Taking care of your family is quasi-self-interest and gives them the opportunity to claim family values at the same time.
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camouflage
gaslit at scale.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I don't think we should be fooled into believing anything they say. They're just seeking to avoid looking like monsters, and maybe get some political traction too.
(I'm getting cynical in my old age, aren't I?)
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bimble
floofy
is that a joke?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
That aspect of this nonsense has made me laugh, I must say. They can't even do something as seemingly simple as condemning an obvious sex pest without putting their collective father-of-daughter, son-of-mother, husband-of-wife, feet in it.
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Of course, the bit that isn't so funny is that the way they put their feet in it is by defining women by their relationship to men, in this case them. They don't even know they're doing it, seemingly.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Camouflage is Diet Casually Red, at least when it comes to Putin.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
that's not what he was referring to in the comment.
It was a reference to, I think, the thread about Brock Turner, in which someone ventured that patriarchy benefits all men.
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
I suppose. It was a reference to (as Orang said) another thread though. I stopped trying to make the point there as it seemed inappropriate to flog the dead horse of what does or does not benefit all men on that thread, however I couldn't resist saying that here because Yuwipi alluded to my own thoughts on the question. You have to first buy into a strictly self-interested vision of human existence where we are all first and foremost Consumers before you can allow yourself the idea that something that doesn't target you directly can have a negative effect on your "user experience"... for example Trumps sexism bums one out because "I have a daughter", or "Patriarchism negatively effects my user experience as a man because it impinges on my freedom to choose to buy and enjoy wearing a dress or to be sensitive". If you don't buy into the narrow self-interest view of life, it's possible to think something like sexism or patriarchy suck in and of themselves, or suck because they are against the general nature of what a human or human society is more generally. But that would imply concepts not defined by market orientated thought.
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camouflage
gaslit at scale.
Aye, top bloke Putin, world class statesman.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yep.
bimble
floofy
Don't agree. I know her speech was gold for Hillary but that doesn't mean it wasn't important and real what she actually said. And it needed saying.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I agree with all that and that there were genuinely expressed emotions in her speech - in fact what decent person wouldn't genuinely believe the things she said? It's just, well, what would have been the reaction of the Clinton team this week as all these stories came in? There'd have been genuine disgust at trump - along with a bit of 'processing' and thinking how it could be used (as well of course as the issue lurking in the background of the behaviour of the last president who went by the name of Clinton).
elbows
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Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I think they knew about Trump all along. They do share the same NY social circle. That kind of behavior is generally known, but not commented on. They just couldn't have their fingerprints directly on it when it landed (not surprisingly) a month before the election. That doesn't preclude genuine disgust at his behavior.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
assuming trump loses, i cant see him taking defeat gracefully - he - and his supporters - will be shouting fix and conspiracy. The republican party will turn on him but he'll retain a core support of fuckwits - potentially violent fuckwits. What will trump do next? - keep campaigning to "make america great again" ? Or will his time be taken up fighting lawsuits/prison/bankruptcy? cant see any tv networks wanting him on their payroll.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
His ego won't allow him to try and get a senate seat, that's for sure.
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
Mr Trump's spokeswoman, Hope Hicks, said in a statement emailed to the Washington Post: "Mr Trump strongly denies this phony allegation by someone looking to get some free publicity. It is totally ridiculous."
Hope Hicks!
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
This is my hope. May he end his days broke and/or behind bars. Then promptly be forgotten.
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