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Casually Red said:
Big surge in support for Trump according to the polls

Exclusive: Trump surges in support, almost even with Clinton in national U.S. poll

Hilary Clintons biggest Achilles heel is Hilary Clinton . The Democrats are insane to pick her .or rather to gerrymander the selection process to ensure she wins . Sanders stands a far better chance against Trump .
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Correct. Polling has shown for quite a while that Bernie beats Trump by way more than Hillary. But, I'm afraid it's too late. Bernie can't catch up.
 
Bernie trails by 275(ish) delegates (excluding the superdelegates who can switch if he looks the better option). There are around 900 delegates left up for grabs. Unlikely as it may seem, there is still a slender chance -though in reality it's probably over. His best chance is an overwhelming win (75%+ of the delegate count) in California and other wins by the same margins as he has been doing up to now (55%-45%) in the other states/territories...
 
Casually Red said:
You just can't get the staff
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A butler, yesterday.

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krtek a houby said:
Lovely.

Donald Trump's ex-butler calls for Obama to be killed - BBC News
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He's certainly not alone in the Obama's a Muslim thing among Trump supporters. Many or most are simply fruitcakes.
Two-thirds of voters with a favorable opinion of Donald Trump believe President Barack Obama is a Muslim, and a quarter of them believe that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia was murdered, a poll released Tuesday shows.

The Public Policy Polling survey showed 59 percent of those who said they viewed the presumptive Republican presidential nominee favorably think Obama was not born in the United States and only 13 percent believe he’s a Christian.
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Poll: Two-Thirds of Trump Backers Think Obama Is Muslim
 
All the FBI have to do to stop Trump is indict Cinton ASAP . Sanders immediately fills the breach . Rep party in dissarray , half of them jumped to the clinton camp..guaranteed win for Sanders. Who's the only sure shot at stopping Trump anyway . Plus we end up with Clinton in jail .
 
weltweit said:
Wonder how that will work out, I assume Trump will want it to boost his electability at home, how might he achieve that I wonder?
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Londonistan brain-washed into protesting. If we don't stop it these islamic-rayguns it could happen here in the land of the free...

^thats my opinion of the Trump playbook, not my opinion
 
Trump vs. HRC good article by Henwood.

At first I thought that Hillary Clinton would have no trouble dispensing with Donald Trump. Sure, she’s the second most unpopular presidential candidate (and likely nominee) in the history of polling—but he’s the first. She’s unpleasant, but he’s downright repellent. All she has to do is win Obama’s states and a swing state or two and it’s all over for Trump, and he’d go back to being a third-tier real estate guy.

Now I’m not so sure. The same pundits and pollsters who assured us he could never get the nomination are now telling us that there’s no way he could win in November. While past performance is no guarantee of future results, this record doesn’t inspire confidence.

And the Hillary campaign so far isn’t performing impressively. All they have been able to do since Trump became the almost-certain nominee is uncork insults against him and marshall quotes from alarmed conservatives who can’t support him (for now). Some of her supporters are denouncing his supporters as ignorant bigots. Many of them no doubt are, but far from all, and that’s not the way to win friends and influence people. Lots of people are turning to the huckster because their lives are a mess and the political system doesn’t do shit for them. Hawking hats like this will drive away more of the discontented than it’ll attract. It speaks to the complacent and comfortable, which seems to be a major Hillary target audience.

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Adding further to my doubts is Trump’s wiliness as a psychological warrior. Having destroyed Jeb and Marco with cruel, accurate epithets, he’s now ready for Hillary. And, at least according to an article New York Times by Patrick Healy, his approach looks to be a lot more sophisticated than one might have expected.

In a telephone interview, he noted that women did not like seeing Mrs. Clinton insulted or bullied by men. He said he wanted to be more strategic, by calling into question Mrs. Clinton’s judgment in her reaction to Mr. Clinton’s affairs — people close to the couple have said she was involved in efforts to discredit the women — and in her response to crises like Benghazi.

“Just getting nasty with Hillary won’t work,” Mr. Trump said. “You really have to get people to look hard at her character, and to get women to ask themselves if Hillary is truly sincere and authentic. Because she has been really ugly in trying to destroy Bill’s mistresses, and she is pandering to women so obviously when she is only interested in getting power.”

He acknowledged that Republicans tried to discredit her judgment in the marathon Benghazi hearing in the fall, to little avail. But he said that he would be more pointed and memorable in linking her to the failings and deaths in Libya, and that the debate would have a vastly larger television audience than the hearing. Still, advisers of Mrs. Clinton pointed to her face-off with the Republican-led Benghazi committee as a sign of her unflappability.

This is dead-on, not least because every word of it is true. The contrast with the conventional GOP approach on Benghazi is striking. That was always a bogus scandal. But she was central to the regime change in Libya (“We came, we saw, he died”), from which little good has come. Pointing that up undermines one of her most heavily advertised attributes, her “experience.” Citing Hillary’s undeniable (and impressive) “unflappability” is the strategy for for fighting the last war. Hillary can be tough, but she’s also capable of blurting out embarrassing things under pressure, and it’s almost certain that Trump will get viciously under her skin.

When I first started doing my Hillary research, my Democratic friends (I still have a few) hated me for it. I countered by saying I was actually doing them a favor by pointing to the many vulnerabilities of their candidate. They would hear none of it. They still won’t. Tweet negatively about her and you’re more likely to get blocked than to be met with an intelligent argument.

Twitter isn’t real life, for sure, but the move is emblematic of their response to criticism—stop the ears and denounce you as a misogynist. The psychoanalyst in me attributes that response to a strenuously disavowed awareness of her vulnerability, and the lack of strong positive arguments for her candidacy. She’s going to have to come up with some simulations of those, or Donald Trump will do her some serious damage.
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Good article here on Trumps pivot to the left . Although he plainly doesn't like it being described as left wing , not least for obvious reasons. Hell of an Interesting quote at the end too.
" this is the Republican party, not the conservative party " . changed times .

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/us/politics/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-campaign.html

If that's the sound of a political mould being broken it can only be a good thing .
 
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Trump is going to smuggle in misogyny with legitimate critiques of Clintonite corruption and aggressive foreign policy while Clinton and her coterie link Trump's racist statements to his handful of anti-neoliberal economic policies. There will be a lot of nasty attacks on the white working-class as Clinton woos Republicans who hate the poor and people who aren't white but find Trump a bit too crass and anti-war. Clinton's paid commentators on social media have already started denigrating 'white trash losers on heroin'.

This is going to be a deeply depressing election.

It's pretty obvious I think that a lot of the Dems in the US see the future of US politics as being with a neoliberal Dem Party, even to the right of our Tories, and with a Republican Party which marries ethno or cultural-chauvinism with economic policy that seems to at least look like something that diverges from neoliberalism. That's a future which they see as positive.
 
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J Ed said:
Trump is going to smuggle in misogyny with legitimate critiques of Clintonite corruption and aggressive foreign policy while Clinton and her coterie link Trump's racist statements to his handful of anti-neoliberal economic policies. There will be a lot of nasty attacks on the white working-class as Clinton woos Republicans who hate the poor and people who aren't white but find Trump a bit too crass and anti-war. Clinton's paid commentators on social media have already started denigrating 'white trash losers on heroin'.

This is going to be a deeply depressing election.

It's pretty obvious I think that a lot of the Dems in the US see the future of US politics as being with a neoliberal Dem Party, even to the right of our Tories, and with a Republican Party which marries ethno or cultural-chauvinism with economic policy that seems to at least look like something that diverges from neoliberalism. That's a future which they see as positive.
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I'm not sure you whether you mean Trumps attacks on Clinton will be of a misogynistic nature or hell be focussing on Bill Clintons misogyny while downplaying his own . I strongly suspect the latter . If his tactics at the beginning were to totally dominate the media coverage by being an outrageous cunt then he absolutely succeeded . But having succeeded in that he needs to take a very different approach now . And he's far from stupid .
Fact is regardless of his own crassness it's a fact Trump was employing and promoting women at the highest levels of his business empire well before it was fashionable . Not out of a sense of do gooderism but because he twigged before most it made perfect business sense . And when it comes to winning hell do whatevers necessary . He's clever enough to see employing misogynist tactics against Clinton will help rather than hinder her . I doubt he'll be doing her any favours in that regard . All he needs to do is say exactly what Sanders been saying on the political and economic front..totally plagiarise him, while going after her and her husbands disgraceful treatment of women on the personalised front .

Well he needs to do a bit more than that but as a central strategy that can work , as it hems her in from all angles while making her look a lot nastier than him .
 
J Ed said:
Trump is going to smuggle in misogyny with legitimate critiques of Clintonite corruption and aggressive foreign policy while Clinton and her coterie link Trump's racist statements to his handful of anti-neoliberal economic policies. There will be a lot of nasty attacks on the white working-class as Clinton woos Republicans who hate the poor and people who aren't white but find Trump a bit too crass and anti-war. Clinton's paid commentators on social media have already started denigrating 'white trash losers on heroin'.

This is going to be a deeply depressing election.

It's pretty obvious I think that a lot of the Dems in the US see the future of US politics as being with a neoliberal Dem Party, even to the right of our Tories, and with a Republican Party which marries ethno or cultural-chauvinism with economic policy that seems to at least look like something that diverges from neoliberalism. That's a future which they see as positive.
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Perhaps. I know CR (and I think some others) have suggested this already but I would not be surprised if he shocks everyone with some policy proposals from the left though - probably healthcare, where he would be able to slate her for taking drug company money, attack Obamacare for being the mess that it is and (genuinely) reduce the ludicrous amount of money they pay for Medicare / Medicaid*. He is after all one of the very few Republican candidates, and almost certainly the only nominee, to even raise the idea of a single-payer system.

* for which they pay three times as much per person as we do for the entire NHS
 
agricola said:
Perhaps. I know CR (and I think some others) have suggested this already but I would not be surprised if he shocks everyone with some policy proposals from the left though - probably healthcare, where he would be able to slate her for taking drug company money, attack Obamacare for being the mess that it is and (genuinely) reduce the ludicrous amount of money they pay for Medicare / Medicaid*. He is after all one of the very few Republican candidates, and almost certainly the only nominee, to even raise the idea of a single-payer system.

* for which they pay three times as much per person as we do for the entire NHS
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I think one thing that is clear is that the Clinton campaign sees Trump's candidacy as a historic opportunity to dominate electorally and really just say fuck you to the base and push through an aggressive foreign policy and accelerate neoliberalism even further. It certainly will not be difficult to move to the left of that, and I expect Trump to do so. Trump's proposed healthcare plan is a pretty standard Republican repeal of the ACA, but it's Donald Trump and he could easily go back on that. The Henwood article I posted above mentions the fact that Trump will include an overall anti-war critique along with the Benghazi conspiracy stuff that's already well embedded in parts of the US public discourse, I think that that is a good idea for him. He could even do something that Bernie has failed to do despite Hillary red-baiting him over Nicaragua, he could talk about the now well established (she bragged about it in her book) Clintonite role in the 2009 coup in Honduras.

At this point when I look at what Donald Trump is doing I think 'yeah if I was him that is what I would be doing' whereas I think the opposite of HRC's campaign.
 
agricola said:
Perhaps. I know CR (and I think some others) have suggested this already but I would not be surprised if he shocks everyone with some policy proposals from the left though - probably healthcare, where he would be able to slate her for taking drug company money, attack Obamacare for being the mess that it is and (genuinely) reduce the ludicrous amount of money they pay for Medicare / Medicaid*. He is after all one of the very few Republican candidates, and almost certainly the only nominee, to even raise the idea of a single-payer system.

* for which they pay three times as much per person as we do for the entire NHS
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He already has been doing a lot of this, and quite skilfully . On the one hand he's complaining Obamacare / Medicaid etc doesn't work and it's a rip off because the " free market " isn't being applied. Which insulated him from too many attacks on the right . But when he explained what he meant about the " free market " it was actually about a carve up involving the pharma industries and the like . Which goes back to Clintons door . More dodgy Clinton dealings . So he has it both ways..denies he's promoting "socialist " policies by claiming its about the free market . then has a go at the fat cats in the next breath.
And to top it all off when he's really pressed on where he stands he just shrugs his shoulders and says he couldn't care less about ideology. Simply that he doesn't believe people in the United states should be dying on street corners for lack of medical attention . Which is impossible to argue against without sounding like a nazi . So he wins every way .

He attacks Obamacare on the basis it's shit . And that Trumpocare will be ten times better and everyone will love it . And it'll be a winner .


This was from well before he even got the nomination , and he states pretty clearly he didn't care if he lost ( republican ) votes over it .

 
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Pretty sane conversation here with Letterman on healthcare were yet again Trump praises Scottish NHS .



Fucking arsehole Letterman chooses that very moment of real prime time political importance....the Republican nominee for President of the USA openly and frankly raising the possibility of free at the point of delivery healthcare for all on one of the US biggest talk shows ...to jump in with a cheap shot about his fucking hair

Fucking asshole.
 
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