Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

[8den]

Accused by who ? His ex wife is adamant she wasn't raped . Unlike the women who have directly accused Bill Clinton of rape, and his wife of helping to cover it up . unless you know better than his ex wife .

And Trump is no more responsible for a couple of assholes beating an immigrant than Bernie Sanders is responsible for some of his supporters referring to working class Trump supporters as " white trash " and telling them to go back to their trailer parks . And even Hilary Clinton isn't responsible for what that prick off the wire did either .

Unless you know better that is .

One of Trump's key staff members assaulted a reporter from Bretbart. Trump has repeatedly stated he'd pay the legal fees for anyone at his rallies arrested for assaulting protesters. That's at least implied consent. I don't see Bernie or Clinton's aids doing similar.

 

[Idris2002]

One of Trump's key staff members assaulted a reporter from Bretbart. Trump has repeatedly stated he'd pay the legal fees for anyone at his rallies arrested for assaulting protesters. That's at least implied consent. I don't see Bernie or Clinton's aids doing similar.

Aides! It's spelt "aides"! With an "e"!

For pity's sake!

 

[8den]

Aides! It's spelt "aides"! With an "e"!

For pity's sake!

Dude, I'm on a phone.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

One of Trump's key staff members assaulted a reporter from Bretbart. Trump has repeatedly stated he'd pay the legal fees for anyone at his rallies arrested for assaulting protesters. That's at least implied consent. I don't see Bernie or Clinton's aids doing similar.

And CR is accusing Hilary of genocide, which does kind of seem a bit on the naughtier side of things.

 

[Idris2002]

Dude, I'm on a phone.

Harsh realm, dude.

 

[J Ed]

The only good thing that can possibly come out of this election is a mass movement of Sandernistas who have the cop-on and liathrodi to actually fight and win. For that to happen it's better that Hilary wins - not because she isn't a nasty piece of work (she is), but because if she fails in her effort to "take what is mine by fire and blood", Bern & Co. will get blamed, scapegoated, and witchhunted. And the only hopeful thing to happen in American politics in my lifetime will get strangled in its cradle.


Oh and Casually Red? "Telltale McCissyface"? Aren't you meant to be A GROWN FUCKING MAN?

Even though Hillary Clinton has the nomination mathematically sewn up her paid for pundits, members of the DNC and the general media are going after Bernie harder than ever and over very spurious stuff The Faux Fracas in Nevada: How a Reporter Manufactured a Riot

I am starting to think that it is because they see Berniecrats as a much longer term problem, although I also think the hysterical outrage is also just a form of catharsis for a political class who realise that they are losing control.

 

[TomUS]

The only good thing that can possibly come out of this election is a mass movement of Sandernistas who have the cop-on and liathrodi to actually fight and win. For that to happen it's better that Hilary wins - not because she isn't a nasty piece of work (she is), but because if she fails in her effort to "take what is mine by fire and blood", Bern & Co. will get blamed, scapegoated, and witchhunted. And the only hopeful thing to happen in American politics in my lifetime will get strangled in its cradle.

Exactly. Bernie & co. will be blamed by the Dem establishment if she loses. The Dem. party will be split & the US will have a madman in the WH.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I am starting to think that it is because they see Berniecrats as a much longer term problem, although I also think the hysterical outrage is also just a form of catharsis for a political class who realise that they are losing control.

They very much should. There's a definite challenge to the corporatists coming.

 

[J Ed]

Another thing that I think is going to be really interesting about the general election is how on earth are these people going to win over potential Trump voters? They have spent the past six months calling women and men who disagree with Hillary Clinton misogynists, they say that Bernie waving his finger is 'violence' while ignoring (or praising, justifying) the 2009 Honduras coup she ensured the success of which then of course enabled far-right misogynist death squads. It's a bad tactic when aimed at Berniecrats, but there are probably a handful of them who it can at least demoralise, but my god it is going to look pathetic against people who by and large have no frame of reference for this kind of discourse and if they do they are rightly disgusted by it.

I still don't think that Clinton will lose, but if anyone can lose to Trump it is her.

 

[J Ed]

Hillary Clinton supporters, paid and unpaid, are somehow probably some of the worst political groups on the internet at least in terms of dishonesty. That's quite incredible when you think about just how many awful people are on the internet.

 

[Casually Red]

Oh and Casually Red? "Telltale McCissyface"? Aren't you meant to be A GROWN FUCKING MAN?

Ok , Cissy McToutface .

 

[Casually Red]

The only good thing that can possibly come out of this election is a mass movement of Sandernistas who have the cop-on and liathrodi to actually fight and win. For that to happen it's better that Hilary wins - not because she isn't a nasty piece of work (she is), but because if she fails in her effort to "take what is mine by fire and blood", Bern & Co. will get blamed, scapegoated, and witchhunted. And the only hopeful thing to happen in American politics in my lifetime will get strangled in its cradle.

If Clinton loses its because she was shit, end of . Because she's despised by the American public . Sanders and his supporters will have absolutely nothing to do with that . Because everyone knew it to begin with. She's been heartily despised for a very long time. And frankly nobody will give a shit what a despised, loathed failure has to say . And if she wins then it means so called leftists and liberals are happy to elect genocidal neo liberal warmongers and reinforce the wall street backed status quo. Which they are, frankly . So fuck them . What a fucking message her victory would be, what a vindication of all that shit .

Strangled in the cradle..witchunted. You're a bit of a drama queen tonight .

 

[Casually Red]

.... & the US will have a madman in the WH.

 

[Casually Red]

Another thing that I think is going to be really interesting about the general election is how on earth are these people going to win over potential Trump voters? They have spent the past six months calling women and men who disagree with Hillary Clinton misogynists, they say that Bernie waving his finger is 'violence' while ignoring (or praising, justifying) the 2009 Honduras coup she ensured the success of which then of course enabled far-right misogynist death squads. It's a bad tactic when aimed at Berniecrats, but there are probably a handful of them who it can at least demoralise, but my god it is going to look pathetic against people who by and large have no frame of reference for this kind of discourse and if they do they are rightly disgusted by it.

I still don't think that Clinton will lose, but if anyone can lose to Trump it is her.

If anything it should drive sanders supporters into the Trump camp, which will happen in some cases . Or encourage the rest to support an independent bid by Sanders.

Fuck the democrats, they deserve to split and implode . What's so good about them in the first place ? They're scum . Trump has fucked the republicans, conservative ideology is no longer a sacred cow there any more . Taxing the rich, anti war sentiment and universal healthcare is now openly spoken about by their top dog ..with no repercussions .There's never been a better opportunity for US politics to realign into something different . A Clinton victory will ensure that ne er happens. Sanders supporters would be better off out of that democrat shitbag and trying something different. The whole game was set against them from the start.

 

[NoXion]

If Clinton loses its because she was shit, end of . Because she's despised by the American public . Sanders and his supporters will have absolutely nothing to do with that . Because everyone knew it to begin with. She's been heartily despised for a very long time. And frankly nobody will give a shit what a despised, loathed failure has to say . And if she wins then it means so called leftists and liberals are happy to elect genocidal neo liberal warmongers and reinforce the wall street backed status quo. Which they are, frankly . So fuck them . What a fucking message her victory would be, what a vindication of all that shit .

Strangled in the cradle..witchunted. You're a bit of a drama queen tonight .

Surely you can't deny that if Clinton loses, establishment Democrats will do their damndest to blame Sanders for that, even if it's a big fat lie?

 

[yield]

Donald Trump: 'I've been invited to Number 10 for talks'
20 May 2016

I still don't think that Clinton will lose, but if anyone can lose to Trump it is her.

I think Clinton will lose to Trump. He'll dredge every sordid detail he can. And it will stick.

 

[Casually Red]

Surely you can't deny that if Clinton loses, establishment Democrats will do their damndest to blame Sanders for that, even if it's a big fat lie?

Who cares ? What will they do exactly ? They've already purged most of their higher echelons of Sanders supporters , stacked their delegations with Clintons people..already treated him and his supporters like absolute shit regardless of levels of support . It's been done already to sew the game up for Clinton.

They certainly aren't going to blame themselves for their own actions but there's nothing more they can do to hurt Sanders and his people . If they succeed in driving that political force out for good all the better . Their only role seems to be a veil of respectability for scum like the Clintons and Blumenthals to hide behind .

They'll be seen as sore ugly losers and they'll whinge and whine and point fingers . Fuck them . What are people actually suggesting here ? That nobody should run against Clinton because she'll be angry if she loses ? Fuck her and the apocalyptic horse she rode in on . Her and her ilk will be a busted flush who lost to Donald Trump ..a national laughing stock. Failures and yesterday's news .

 

[teqniq]

A very entertaining read

R.I.P., GOP: How Trump Is Killing the Republican Party

 

[agricola]

I think Clinton will lose to Trump. He'll dredge every sordid detail he can. And it will stick.

I am not sure how true that is - it is certainly what Cruz / Bush / Rubio would have done, to descend into the gutter and just throw mud; but the point is that is what they tried to do to him and it did not work. He will certainly come out with loads of nonsense, but if he wins it will because he will have been able to expose the absurdities that are inherent in her position (which him not being beholden to many of the Republican's most cherished beliefs will allow him to do).

 

[Yossarian]

I think Clinton will lose to Trump. He'll dredge every sordid detail he can. And it will stick.

The Clintons have already had 8 years in the White House and this is Hillary's second presidential campaign, while this is Trump's first run for any kind of office, if there are sordid details to be dredged up I think Clinton will end up with a lot more firepower than Trump.

The Democrats also have a formidable get-out-the-vote operation which probably swung it for them in 2012, whereas if the Republicans couldn't come close to equalling that under Romney, I doubt there's much chance of it happening with Trump.

 

[8den]

Donald Trump: 'I've been invited to Number 10 for talks'
20 May 2016

I think Clinton will lose to Trump. He'll dredge every sordid detail he can. And it will stick.

Clintons between through Bill's governor campaigns, His two successful White House terms, Hilary's senate campaigns, and finally her appointment as Secretary of State. Simply put she's been vetted for three decades. There's bed nearly a dozen investigations into Benghazi and her emails alone. And nothing's stuck.


Trump will just keep firing mud. It's already stuck with the casually reds but I don't think he'll find many more suckers for his patented bullshit

 

[Yata]

theres a page on reddit where a lot of trump supporters gather saw it a while ago and thought it was a parody cause its so mad but theyre organising a lot of the online stuff there i think, there was one thread with a cruz zodiac killer image asking for mass upvotes so that it will appear in google image searches for ted cruz as well as a similar one for the affair thing. its so insane on there and ive just had a look theyre currently trying to get an image of bill clinton to show up when you google rapist.

 

[yield]

I am not sure how true that is - it is certainly what Cruz / Bush / Rubio would have done, to descend into the gutter and just throw mud; but the point is that is what they tried to do to him and it did not work. He will certainly come out with loads of nonsense, but if he wins it will because he will have been able to expose the absurdities that are inherent in her position (which him not being beholden to many of the Republican's most cherished beliefs will allow him to do).

You think Trump won't stoop as low as Cruz / Bush / Rubio? Not sure myself.

I was thinking of Jeffrey Epstein but it looks like Trump has connections with him too.

The Salacious Ammo Even Donald Trump Won't Use in a Fight Against Hillary Clinton
January 29, 2016

You're right about Clinton's other vulnerabilities.

The Clintons have already had 8 years in the White House and this is Hillary's second presidential campaign, while this is Trump's first run for any kind of office, if there are sordid details to be dredged up I think Clinton will end up with a lot more firepower than Trump.

The Democrats also have a formidable get-out-the-vote operation which probably swung it for them in 2012, whereas if the Republicans couldn't come close to equalling that under Romney, I doubt there's much chance of it happening with Trump.

Trump's inexperience can be a strength. They'll be able to use Clinton's positions and time in office against her.

Hillary Clinton’s dodgy answers on Honduras coup.

Barack Obama inspired much more enthusiasm than Hillary Clinton ever will. Will Bernie Sanders' supporters will fall in line after she gets the Democractic nomination

Trump will just keep firing mud. It's already stuck with the casually reds but I don't think he'll find many more suckers for his patented bullshit

Writing off Trump's many supporters as suckers isn't very useful.

 

[Casually Red]

Clintons between through Bill's governor campaigns, His two successful White House terms, Hilary's senate campaigns, and finally her appointment as Secretary of State. Simply put she's been vetted for three decades. There's bed nearly a dozen investigations into Benghazi and her emails alone. And nothing's stuck.


Trump will just keep firing mud. It's already stuck with the casually reds but I don't think he'll find many more suckers for his patented bullshit

I don't believe the repeated claims by Juanita Broddick that Bill Clinton raped her and bit her face are bullshit in the slightest . BillClinton was impeached as President after repeatedly claiming he did not have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky...a vulnerable young woman he and Killary systematically maligned and destroyed after she was cynically used solely for Bills gratification . Used and abused by the most powerful man in the world . Then subjected to the tactics of the gutter by his evil wife to protect the cash cow .

This time round Bill Clinton will be denying he had non consensual sexual relations with another woman . I doubt very many will believe him frankly . Or his wife . No matter how many times she dismisses it as a " bimbo eruption " .

Without a doubt you appear to be a sucker for their bullshit . Actually...you aren't . You simply dont care .Your someone who'll happily support people you know full well to be responsible for rape, genocide, criminality and multiple wars of aggression. Due to your innate middle class snobbery and knee jerk political partisanship . Which you like to dress up as some sort of moral high ground. Which is what middle class snobs and hypocrites generally do when justifying their shitty positions.

 

[Casually Red]

The Clintons have already had 8 years in the White House and this is Hillary's second presidential campaign, while this is Trump's first run for any kind of office, if there are sordid details to be dredged up I think Clinton will end up with a lot more firepower than Trump.

The Democrats also have a formidable get-out-the-vote operation which probably swung it for them in 2012, whereas if the Republicans couldn't come close to equalling that under Romney, I doubt there's much chance of it happening with Trump.

Unlike Obama Hitlery Clinton is heartily disliked . Getting people out in large numbers with the enthusiasm to vote for her is no done deal, nor even likely . Her brand is toxic to too many people . There are far too many different variables in this contest to be making any comparisons to previous elections . Trumps tore that rule book up . As has Sanders to a lesser degree .
interesting read this .

Will Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton be a nailbiter? - CNNPolitics.com

And the terms served by both Clintons are heavily mired in sordid controversy, regardless of what they've gotten away with until now . She's still under investigation and facing possible indictment . Trump has no shortage of penalty kicks he can take at her, her record and her team . Wether personal, political or financial .

 

[Casually Red]

Scott Dikkers, The Onion founder, is also predicting a Trump win .

Donald Trump faked being a lawyer to us, too: Onion founder

 

[weltweit]

Trump's stance is interesting. I like the "Make America Great Again" slogan, but if he is asked to spell out what policies he will use to achieve that I think he will struggle. Basically it will have to be protectionism which would doom NAFTA and TTIP .. would it get iPhones made in the USA again, I don't know.

 

[Casually Red]

Trump's stance is interesting. I like the "Make America Great Again" slogan, but if he is asked to spell out what policies he will use to achieve that I think he will struggle. Basically it will have to be protectionism which would doom NAFTA and TTIP .. would it get iPhones made in the USA again, I don't know.

If he wins NAFTA and TTIP could be history . NATO could be in a spot of bother too .

 

[YouSir]

If he wins NAFTA and TTIP could be history . NATO could be in a spot of bother too .

You really think he'd go up against the massed ranks of corporate interests backing NAFTA and TTIP? People whose class he belongs to and who he does business with, no matter how much of a 'rogue' millionaire he tries to paint himself as? The man is a bullshitter. It'd be cosmetic change and the maintenance of established interests. Just as it was when Obama was going to re-create the Soviet Union from the White House.

 

[Casually Red]

You really think he'd go up against the massed ranks of corporate interests backing NAFTA and TTIP? People whose class he belongs to and who he does business with, no matter how much of a 'rogue' millionaire he tries to paint himself as? The man is a bullshitter. It'd be cosmetic change and the maintenance of established interests. Just as it was when Obama was going to re-create the Soviet Union from the White House.

He already has gone up against them in the republican party and soundly thrashed them on that very platform . And now hes going up against them in the Democrats, while those very same interests coalesce around Clinton . Clintons been bought and paid for by Wall street a long time ago . To the tune of many millions .

He also paints himself as a rogue billionaire, not millionaire . He is indeed an inveterate bullshitter . However he strikes me as a bullshitter who also seriously dislikes those policies . So yes, I believe there's a very real chance hell change them .

As regards Obama all I ever heard from him was some vague wafty " yes we can " nonsense about " fairness " and " aspiration " .that i found laughable . No idea at all what this soviet thing is about .