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No, it's Donald Trump. Close, though.
Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!
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Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Trump says a lot of things...
petee
no gods, no malarkey
I recently offered to tutor Donald Trump on nuclear matters. To put things clearly, I went on his website and in the place where you could send comments, I began mine by saying that on these things he did not seem to know his ass from a wheel.
The Trump Bomb
Vintage Paw
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John Boehner has called Cruz "Lucifer in the flesh."
elbows
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John Boehner has called Cruz "Lucifer in the flesh."
Fun indeed
US election 2016: Former House Speaker Boehner calls Ted Cruz 'Lucifer' - BBC News
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
John Boehner has called Cruz "Lucifer in the flesh."
Satanists are justifiably pissed off.
Satanists are furious that Boehner compared Ted Cruz to the Dark Lord
Lucifer != Beelzebub
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
John Boehner has called Cruz "Lucifer in the flesh."
First thing to come out of that man's mouth that I actually believed!
Vintage Paw
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Absolutely nothing of substance there, but I can completely understand why people support him. Scary times.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
His office looks like the inside of an eccentric grandma's static caravan. Cheap shiny trinkets all over the shop.
gosub
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"the woman has identified herself in court papers as Kate Johnson, and plans to defend herself in court." If she is representing herself, she'll most likely get eaten alive, and Mirror's use of the word "defend" is fucked up.
Forgot that... It is.
1%er
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Reading the link, I think they mean by "Defending herself" is that she will not have a lawyer acting for her, not that she is having to "defend" her actions.
gosub
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as in representing herself, the term I used. "defend" in this instance is WRONG on a lot of levels.
1%er
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It can be open to misinterpretation, I agree but I read it as meaning "she is acting for herself without a lawyer".
This article raises a number of very interesting questions if read dispassionately, it makes me wonder if that is deliberate.
gosub
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Actually, you have to misinterprate the word 'defend' to get their meaning.
1%er
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I thought that in the UK if someone was defending themselves in a court action it meant they were acting without a lawyer, maybe my understanding of English is incorrect
gosub
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If someone is defending themselves in court, they are a defendant that has declined council. The Plaintiff is not there to defend their actions, particularly in a rape case ffs.
1%er
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You are 100% correct in that statement. Is that how you interpret the meaning in the article, that she is having to defend her actions?
Edit to add, I see this as a case of child sexual abuse
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gosub
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As I said she is representing herself , in a case where she alleges wrong doing by Trump. The use of the word "defend" in that instance is dodgy as fuck :if not bad subbing, undertows of you were wearing a short skirt or took payment....what right have you to drag this man's good name through the mud? Sadly though probably where things will end up.
1%er
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All I can say is we read it with different interpretations of the phrase "...... and plans to defend herself in court...", although the whole article is written in a way that leaves more questions than answers in my mind and I wonder if that is deliberate.
gosub
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what is she defending herself from?
1%er
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I don't believe she is or has to defend herself against anything, I read the text to mean only that she does not have legal representation in the case and is carrying out her own legal defense. I read no more into it that that.
Vintage Paw
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I hear 'represent themselves in court' plenty for it to be at the very least quite weird to use 'defend' in the context of a plaintiff.
Defendants both represent and defend; plaintiffs represent.
Considering the context, at the very least the use of defend is unfortunate and should be changed. Rape victims have to defend themselves enough as it is. There's a culture of disbelief and shaming and really sinister fucking shit around rape, and it really doesn't need any help from a misapplied word in reporting.
Defendants both represent and defend; plaintiffs represent.
Considering the context, at the very least the use of defend is unfortunate and should be changed. Rape victims have to defend themselves enough as it is. There's a culture of disbelief and shaming and really sinister fucking shit around rape, and it really doesn't need any help from a misapplied word in reporting.
Vintage Paw
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It really doesn't matter what you personally read into it. You're not the sum total of people who will read this, neither are you (presumably) the sum total of rape victims who deal with the consequences of sloppily-applied language.
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