Donald Trump - news and discussion

[story]

It wouldn't surprise me if as a result of californians voting to leave in that advisory referendum, the Trump admin declares martial law in california. How constitutional or enforceable it is would be irrelevant to them. They lack the finesse to deal with such a situation and it wouldn't be long before someone made a vary bad situation much worse by making a shitty decision and then that civil war that elements of the right have been agitating for will go hot very quickly. Hyperbolic? Maybe. But there does seem to be a constant and depressing drumbeat from over the atlantic and the signs are not encouraging...

Yes, I can see this outcome happening if Ca were to make a serious bid for secession.

However, it won't wash with Trump.

California is currently on the back foot. Drought and increasing risk of catastrophic fires, not to mention the earthquake threat too. As I've said elsewhere, rebuilding LA is the perfect opportunity for Trump to use his experience as a crappy building tycoon to trawl for land and cash, him and his cronies.

CA produces a lot of fruit, vegetables, and nuts for the American market. I can't see Trump giving that up while increasing tariffs on imports. If he puts money into supporting farmers elsewhere in America, he'll claim it's to protect food security as CA struggles with drought etc.

I think he's more likely to hold california's feet to the fire.

Trump may be planning a sharp, extended conflict with California, experts say - Berkeley News

Donald Trump does not hide his disdain for California and its perceived progressive values. Now UC Berkeley analysts say he may be planning an offensive against the state that extends from public health and climate to immigration, energy and education.

news.berkeley.edu

Extortion seems to be his MO at the moment ( and by the way I reckon this tactic has been suggested to him by someone close by).

There's also the small matter of the California -Mexico border. I don't see Trump allowing CA to look after things there without his oversight.

 

[breadandcircuse]

Well this seems somewhat predictable in retrospect - a Bill drafted to designate Antifa a terrorist organisation...
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She's as thick as pig shit. The fact that this thing with just air between her ears is a congress woman is shocking. The constant branding of anything against the maga loons as one organisation labelled "antifa" is mind blowing. But then again she knows nothing about politics, like her clown show colleagues. They are absolutely stupid and ignorant, and hold these positions of power, while not knowing what any political term means. We're all doomed with these know nothing's in power, attempting to set the world on fire.

 

[story]

Just trying to see a silver lining in the long term for my own sanity.

I get you, but I think we're past that


It's more like "well we've got terrific new roads and the trains are running on time".

 

[editor]

A friend of mine working in Chicago has just posted this:

Last Friday the pride flag was taken down from Fermilab's Wilson hall. This week all of the international flags have also been taken down.

My understanding (there have been no official communications that I have seen) is that the DEI office has been shut down, the web page diversity.fnal.gov has been taken down, and Spectrum (the Fermilab LGBTQ+ group) has been ordered to cease all activity.

 

[editor]

MOD MODE

Two Trump threads now merged. This one is for serious discussion so anyone pissing about will be warned and/or booted off the thread if they keep disrupting the thread.

Please use this thread for memes and messing about - Essential Trump/Alt-Right memes

 

[danny la rouge]

As there's been a bit of interest, perhaps we could keep this thread to more about US politics; less live-blogging his every action? We could also take it for granted that he's a hateful bellend and not have to state that every 5 posts. I'm personally not a fan of videos but get that it's a brave new world and others do like them. I'd appreciate a why to watch at least if posters can be arsed.

Please can we keep this thread as described above, and not let it descend back into low quality meme-tastic influencer odysseys about fake tan and hair styles and vacuous liberal shit literally taking a eugenics approach to half the US population.

 

[Sweet FA]

wtf's happened with the threads?

 

[Sweet FA]

At least change the name of this one. Can we lose the MAGAtwat bit?

 

[danny la rouge]

wtf's happened with the threads?

In my opinion, the wrong two threads were merged. But it’s done now, and if this has to be the serious discussion one, so be it.

 

[Sweet FA]

cool - see how it goes then

 

[emanymton]

Please can we keep this thread as described above, and not let it descend back into low quality meme-tastic influencer odysseys about fake tan and hair styles and vacuous liberal shit literally taking a eugenics approach to half the US population.

Just for you Danny.

 

[Sweet FA]

 

[Artaxerxes]

Some who voted for Trump have publicly come out stating they deeply regret their decision. They are not being met with much sympathy tbh.

 

[danny la rouge]

Please don’t. You know me, I like larking around, but this thread had got so bad Sweet FA had to start a new one. It was wall-to-wall shite. Let’s not go back there.

 

[emanymton]

Being serious now. The problem with the idea of one thread for serious discussion and one thread for memes and shit is people won't agree on where the boundaries are or they lose track of which thread is which. So there will always be cross over.

 

[danny la rouge]

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Liberal literal eugenics shit. Don’t.

 

[Sweet FA]

Maybe a discussion about the threads might have been an idea?

 

[danny la rouge]

Being serious now. The problem with the idea of one thread for serious discussion and one thread for memes and shit is people won't agree on where the boundaries are or they lose track of which thread is which. So there will always be cross over.

This is true, but this thread had become utter drivel.

 

[Sue]

Being serious now. The problem with the idea of one thread for serious discussion and one thread for memes and shit is people won't agree on where the boundaries are or they lose track of which thread is which. So there will always be cross over.

A thread for serious discussion was started because this one was unreadable and any proper discussion became impossible. As danny la rouge says, it's done now so let's hope this works.

 

[emanymton]

A thread for serious discussion was started because this one was unreadable and any proper discussion became impossible. As danny la rouge says, it's done now so let's hope this works.

Well as Sweet FA said the title doesn't set the best tone for serious discussion.

editor is that something you could think about changing?

I know reporting the first post is the normal way to ask for something like that, but doesn't seem right in this case.

 

[danny la rouge]

Well as Sweet FA said the title doesn't set the best tone for serious discussion.

editor is that something you could think about changing?

I know reporting the first post is the normal way to ask for something like that, bit doesn't seem right in this case.

Agreed. Actually I’ll put my hand up: the thread title was my suggestion, but that was before it transpired what would happen. I can now see that it does not set the tone for what we hope the balance of the thread will be.

I’m not against fun, but it was like wading through the litter after a festival of liberal inanity had been held.

 

[gosub]

They still buy the cocaine?

Tariff free apparently

 

[story]

I'd also like the title of this thread to be changed in the hope that helps to keep discussion focussed.

I think it would also be helpful if the title of the ridicule thread was made more broad so it can also be a home for stuff that's not pure piss taking.

I like seeing the memes gifs and take downs, but I skim all that. I don't want to have to judge, jump, make false starts etc when trying to follow the flow of a discussion.

If the other thread can hold all the stuff that's working as a Vaudeville pressure valve (which is important and necessary) then I can choose more broadly, instead of on every page and every other post whether I want to think or scoff.

 

[danny la rouge]

If the other thread can hold all the stuff that's working as a Vaudeville pressure valve (which is important and necessary) then I can choose more broadly, instead of on every page and every other post whether I want to think or scoff.

A very good way of putting it.

 

[Skinny Ethel]

Instead of whinging why not post something on topic?

 

[breadandcircuse]

This is true, but this thread had become utter drivel.

Get over yourself.

There's an awful lot of nonsense being spewed here, and I don't mean the content of the thread, but from some posters. Equating independent/progressive voices as YT influencers, as if they are fucking Tik Tok teens promoting the latest fashion trends, is ridiculous. We need these media voices more than ever against the Trump enabling corporate media. Anything I posted is relevant to the thread about Trump. This high handed attitude some here have about how the original thread was tainted by supposed "flooding" it with inconsequential content, deemed to be too low for the superior minds moaning is quite frankly insulting and hypocritical. I do believe I spotted the same "serious" content, and, shock horror, multi media stuff on the highbrow thread. Pass me the smelling salts.

 

[danny la rouge]

Get over yourself.

There's an awful lot of nonsense being spewed here, and I don't mean the content of the thread, but from some posters. Equating independent/progressive voices as YT influencers, as if they are fucking Tik Tok teens promoting the latest fashion trends, is ridiculous. We need these media voices more than ever against the Trump enabling corporate media. Anything I posted is relevant to the thread about Trump. This high handed attitude some here have about how the original thread was tainted by supposed "flooding" it with inconsequential content, deemed to be too low for the superior minds moaning is quite frankly insulting and hypocritical. I do believe I spotted the same "serious" content, and, shock horror, multi media stuff on the highbrow thread. Pass me the smelling salts.

It’s about balance. story put it well.

 

[emanymton]

I’m not against fun.

Yeah right, you moonfaced assassin of joy.

Special prize for anyone who has a clue what I'm quoting. someone on here must.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Well, this is one route to normalising fascism.

Peter Mandelson calls past remarks about Trump ‘ill-judged and wrong’

Labour peer says president has won ‘fresh respect’ ahead of expected confirmation as ambassador to the US

www.theguardian.com

 

[breadandcircuse]

It’s about balance. story put it well.

If that's what you think, why do you keep insulting and sneering at the content? I think you've had digs at "liberal YT influencers" more than once. Any independent media I post are well qualified and experienced serious political commentators, not kids flogging fashions etc. They are the alternative voices to corporate media, and are sorely needed. They are relevant to a thread on Trump.