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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Let's keep the fight to the one thread, shall we?
Edit> Krtek's losing his shit with me on the BD thread and trying to cross thread beef it.
I posted on and began this thread, ya dope.
If you can't say anything constructive, you should take a breather and chill...
petee
no gods, no managers
but it isn't, there is a legion of rightwingers who are truly motivated by it.
just in general, may i repeat, there is no materialist explanation for trump. the further down the income scale you go, the higher the percentage of biden voters.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Tbh the sort of people who obsessively complain over how woke everything's gotten and how cancellation's the greatest threat of the era really just need to get their shit together and find some perspective. Disney including the occasional trans background character and a handful of Twitter types telling on people to their bosses really isn't making the sort of grand social impact they think. It's also pretty hypocritical given the events of the last three months where that "people are losing their jobs" line somehow missed all the folks getting blacklisted for supporting Palestine.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
channel 4 had some Trump voter state that Jan 6th was set up by the FBI 
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you have the Dems doing centre right poltics and GOP doing some weird drugs and ranting at the mirror
which would be fine but the world doesn't really need irrational poltics in charge of the worlds economy
.you have the Dems doing centre right poltics and GOP doing some weird drugs and ranting at the mirror
which would be fine but the world doesn't really need irrational poltics in charge of the worlds economy
This.
And should one of the less messianic loons get the presidency (unlikely) they could cause far more havoc, being that wee bit more competent.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The anti-woke brigade have taken a tune from the Keir Starmer playlist on this. The people being blacklisted for supporting Palestine are antisemites. Not enough of them are losing their jobs.
I was listening to a podcast a few weeks ago that was ostensibly about cancel culture in the US and I became very confused at one point when the discussion turned to Gaza. I had assumed they were referring to pro-Palestinians being cancelled, then I eventually twigged that they were actually saying that it wasn't safe for Jews in US colleges at the moment with all the unchallenged antisemitism flying around. Antisemitism has been weaponised in many different ways recently, but using it as a means to attack the 'woke' is one of the stranger ones.
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
Steven Miller being among the very worst of them.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
His "informal economic adviser" is Stephen Moore, a man steeped in background roles from being the research director of Ronald Reagan's privatisation thinktank, through the Cato Institute and a highly impactful campaign to take control of the GOP fundraising reins in the early 2000s. He was talking about going after Republicans in Name Only back in the 90s. Wall Street Journal, Heritage Foundation, Trump 2016 - that's the danger man. Committed, capable and more than willing to quietly get shit done while Trump and The Loonspuds are causing a daily scene of chaos in the media.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
*shakes fist at woke
the GOP was full of racists, Christian Fundy and people look for a race war long before people started going on about wokery
trump was a reaction to having a black president and still in the throws of the right reaction to it
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Honestly it's a bit bonkers to talk about "backlashes against woke" as though it's a legitimate response to over the top demands if you put it in the context of the previous century, during which multiple examples of mass right-wing hysteria took place against every single attempt at or manifestation of social change of any sort using precisely the same excuse. Like this has been gone through over and over again, there is no pace of change or form of politeness or logical argument that social conservatism will accept, it just doesn't want the thing to happen, period.
It wasn't even due to her personal position on Gaza - a coalition of student groups posted a letter blaming Israel's policies for the Hamas attack. According to this report, "within days, students affiliated with those groups were being doxxed, their personal information posted online. Siblings back home were threatened. Wall Street executives demanded a list of student names to ban their hiring. And a truck with a digital billboard — paid for by a conservative group — circled Harvard Square, flashing student photos and names, under the headline, “Harvard’s Leading Antisemites.”
Claudine Gay and two other university presidents were called to testify before Congress about antisemitism, and Gay and the president of Pennsylvania University were forced out of their jobs after they waffled a little bit about free speech when they answered a question about "calls for genocide against Jews," with the alleged "calls for genocide" being slogans used by protesters like "There is only one solution: intifada, revolution."
They later clarified their positions with lengthy, apologetic statements but politicians from both parties still called for their removal. Doesn't exactly sound like out-of-control "wokery" on Middle East issues to me
Raheem
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It's a lovely narrative, but I'd be sceptical that this happens very much in Iowa.
Of course, there's also nothing in particular to stop people being afraid of things that are not happening.
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likesfish
You can't park here sir
the problem is the "competent bastards" aren't actually that competant and some of Trump's places in Congress are fucking loons Marjorie Taylor green for example.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
Spymaster you should have a read of this:
For years, I've been watching anti-elite fury build in Wisconsin. Then came Trump.
I did not set out to study rural resentment of “elites,” but that’s what I found.www.vox.com
Social science researcher happens to spend a few years researching in rural Wisconsin in the lead up to 2016, which completely leads her to see what’s coming and why. It has elements of what you’re saying but you’ve missed the bigger picture, in short.
Not just him, we all have been asleep at the wheel, it seems
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Trump returns from the Iowa caucuses for a defamation lawsuit bought against him by one of rape victims. He will lose the case, like he always does.
www.independent.co.uk
Wonder what the human dogshit who voted for him in Iowa will make of it? Three reactions I predict. First will be clueless idiots who don't even know about it. Second there will be people who will know and like that he raped her, it will be part of the reason they support this bastard. Third there will be the loons who think she's a 'deep state' actor or some other deranged bullshit. All scum, every last one of them.
Trump attends opening of second E Jean Carroll defamation trial: Live updates
Former president back in court in Lower Manhattan for latest legal battle after chalking up huge win in Iowa
www.independent.co.uk
Wonder what the human dogshit who voted for him in Iowa will make of it? Three reactions I predict. First will be clueless idiots who don't even know about it. Second there will be people who will know and like that he raped her, it will be part of the reason they support this bastard. Third there will be the loons who think she's a 'deep state' actor or some other deranged bullshit. All scum, every last one of them.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
I'd reckon the largest constituency is "know but don't care because they like his political agenda."Trump returns from the Iowa caucuses for a defamation lawsuit bought against him by one of rape victims. He will lose the case, like he always does.
Trump attends opening of second E Jean Carroll defamation trial: Live updates
Former president back in court in Lower Manhattan for latest legal battle after chalking up huge win in Iowa
Wonder what the human dogshit who voted for him in Iowa will make of it? Three reactions I predict. First will be clueless idiots who don't even know about it. Second there will be people who will know and like that he raped her, it will be part of the reason they support this bastard. Third there will be the loons who think she's a 'deep state' actor or some other deranged bullshit. All scum, every last one of them.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
without going.to much into it any teacher who works in a state funded school in the USA who get sacked because their brought their religious and or bigoted views into the class room and blame wokeness for getting the bullet
fuck em
separation of church and state was a founding principle
of the country..
fuck em
separation of church and state was a founding principle
of the country..
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Sorry people, I lost it there for a while. 
We have a right wing (Democrat) government and a far-right and fundamentalist christian (Republican) opposition with utter right-wing loons in charge of southern states all imposing austerity on a population that by-and-large isn't earning enough in the first place but they get to finance the billionaires who pay proportionally less tax than working people.
And right wing and far-right-wing judges in the Supreme Court appointed by Trump legislating against women in favour of rapists and pedophiles. And right-wing media and social media that are agitating for a pogrom of refugees and the left in general when trump gets back in. And a right-wing and far-right-wing police force that takes out their hatred by arresting and beating up minorities.
And a right-wing health service that's driven by profit and screwing over poor people who overwhelmingly get ill because of none of their fault. And right wing and far-right billionaires financing violent far-right groups and fundamentalist christians so they can ban books they don't like and take over the education system to push insane fundamentalist christian "morality".
.. and breathe ...
It's a fucking right wing paradise over there. All the things they think a society should be right there and visible.
But the righties maintain that the problems are actually the left's fault because a few of the people being discriminated perhaps against go too far against the people discriminating against them.
We have a right wing (Democrat) government and a far-right and fundamentalist christian (Republican) opposition with utter right-wing loons in charge of southern states all imposing austerity on a population that by-and-large isn't earning enough in the first place but they get to finance the billionaires who pay proportionally less tax than working people.
And right wing and far-right-wing judges in the Supreme Court appointed by Trump legislating against women in favour of rapists and pedophiles. And right-wing media and social media that are agitating for a pogrom of refugees and the left in general when trump gets back in. And a right-wing and far-right-wing police force that takes out their hatred by arresting and beating up minorities.
And a right-wing health service that's driven by profit and screwing over poor people who overwhelmingly get ill because of none of their fault. And right wing and far-right billionaires financing violent far-right groups and fundamentalist christians so they can ban books they don't like and take over the education system to push insane fundamentalist christian "morality".
.. and breathe ...
It's a fucking right wing paradise over there. All the things they think a society should be right there and visible.
But the righties maintain that the problems are actually the left's fault because a few of the people being discriminated perhaps against go too far against the people discriminating against them.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
That's a pretty strange statement from someone who calls themselves a socialist. (And the second sentence rather implies there is a material factor present).
If 30-40 years of neoliberalism, the decline of union members, worsening condition of workers, levelling off or even reduction in mortality age of certain groups does not effect people's politics then what the hell does.
I mean the whole bloody basis of socialism is that the relationship between capital and labour is key in capitalism. If you're going to claim that the pattern of the class war over the last 40 years is completely irrelevant to the appeal of populism then you need to start thinking about what you mean by socialism.
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petee
no gods, no managers
thank you for your concern.
Combustible
Well-Known Member
They walked into the trap set for them. The reason they waffled about free speech is that in the face of claims that they are censoring conservative speech on campuses, they settled on a lawyerly formulation that speech is free but conduct is punishable. They were then presented with a hypothetical piece of anti-Semitic speech, and were jumped on when they fell back on the same formulation.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
hmm regardless of trump atm and arguing about neoliberalism
forgetting the achievement of neoconservatism and the right evangelistic right who managed finally after 50 years to overturn roe vs wade would be a disservice to the way trump won in iowa
it was not the normally working man walking in the snow to vote for trump in the lowest turn out for the event in years
it was the bible bashers
as always the thing that might fail trump in this election round is what will make it start off so well
just appealing to the crazies
forgetting the achievement of neoconservatism and the right evangelistic right who managed finally after 50 years to overturn roe vs wade would be a disservice to the way trump won in iowa
it was not the normally working man walking in the snow to vote for trump in the lowest turn out for the event in years
it was the bible bashers
as always the thing that might fail trump in this election round is what will make it start off so well
just appealing to the crazies
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
oh had not seen this
get your tongue out of Farrages arsehole mate
jesus talking about american politics and bring up debanking when the brought in section 28 in florida and in texas you can be arrested for taking a women out of the state to visit an abortion clinic
they set up a grass up line for women who you are lead to believe may have an abortion and restricted health services to the point ...
a women could die on the table whilst a doctor or nurse spend the required time to find out if they are going to be arrested for medical action
damn evil lefties canceling things
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