It's not hard you know. He literally says in the video a couple of pages back "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." The fact it ended up being a block on range of countries rather than an entire religion doesn't retrospectively change what he called for. This being the thread about Trump, the character, his politics, intentions, desires to forefill in a potential second term, it's kinda core to look at what he actually says.
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It's not hard you know. He literally says in the video a couple of pages back "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." The fact it ended up being a block on range of countries rather than an entire religion doesn't retrospectively change what he called for. This being the thread about Trump, the character, his politics, intentions, desires to forefill in a potential second term, it's kinda core to look at what he actually says.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I blocked Dwyer years ago because he's just a tedious, bad faith twat, and my enjoyment of this place went up enormously.
It's interesting to see the intellectual/political/philosophical journeys people go on over the years, but in his case it's best done both at a distance, and through a visor.
Oh, and with an 'off' button.
It's interesting to see the intellectual/political/philosophical journeys people go on over the years, but in his case it's best done both at a distance, and through a visor.
Oh, and with an 'off' button.
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
I think you've outdone yourself
No you didn't 'say' trump isn't a racist, but the implication of 'smear' in your earlier post is that you don't believe he is, or at least didn't when you mentioned people 'smearing' him as a racist.
Derp.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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So it seems that the Colorado judge has ruled that Trump engaged in the insurrection, but has also interpreted the clause in amendment 14 (saying those involved in insurrection can't run) because it doesn't specifically mention presidents.
. . . like the people who wrote that clause left that out on purpose. Sheesh.
. . . like the people who wrote that clause left that out on purpose. Sheesh.
I'm making a distinction between: (A) What Trump IS, his ideas, personality, conscious intentions etc., and (B) What Trump DOES, the actual and real effects he has in reality and in practice.
Trump (A) is racist and Islamophobic, says he will pass Muslim ban, thus appeals to base, gets elected etc.
But Trump (B) does not pass any Muslim ban. Trump (B) actually encourages Muslim immigration from Turkey and Saudi. He bans people of any religion from enemy countries, including non-Muslim nations like Venezuela and North Korea.
Trump's political enemies deliberately and maliciously misrepresent (B) as (A). Millions of twits are fooled.
Why is this important?
As a precedent predicting the future. Trump (A) wants to make America great again, appeals to base, gets elected etc. But Trump (B) through a combination of vague principle and sheer incompetence actually achieves historic goals of Left, greatly weakens American empire, withdraws from NATO, rescinds NAFTA, ends war in Ukraine, saves world from nuclear apocalypse etc.
But once again, Trump's political enemies etc., millions of twits etc., disaster ensues for humanity etc.
That's the way I see it.
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Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Scientology is no more nonsensical than the mainstream religions; it gets greater critical analysis than them though.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
The thing is, though, it was established after science existed - there's a clue in the name.
tim
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His "shithole countries" comment was a bit of a giveaway when it comes to his racism (outside of Muslim majority countries).
And, infamously, the Mexicans being bad hombres and rapists narrative.
Now why oh why would anyone try to claim he's being "smeared"?
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Well, some of that would be nice. I agree there is a gap between what Trump says and what Trump does.
Your conclusion feels a bit wobbly though, tbh.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
FTFY
The New Testament and Quran were written well after the works of the Greek scholars.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Ehhh. Empiricism is a essential part of the scientific process, but the ancient Greek Empiricists believed the parts of nature that are not readily apparent to be fundamentally incomprehensible, which seems pretty far divorced from the attitude of modern science, which regularly investigates phenomena that are intractable by the bodily senses. I'd say that what the Greeks were doing was a kind of proto-science at best (other ancient societies with strong scholarly traditions were in a likewise position, for example many of the mathematical discoveries commonly attributed nowadays to the Greeks were in fact found by the Babylonians first). The various schools of ancient Greek philosophy had some rather important pieces of the puzzle put together, but they had yet to assemble the kind of rigorous scientific methodology that was implemented centuries later.
I don't see why. Trump has made it pretty clear that if re-elected he'll withdraw from NATO (thus probably ending it), rescind NAFTA, stop fueling the war in Ukraine and so on. These are (or ought to be) the main political goals of the Left. But the Left is so fixated on Trump (A) that it is incapable of perceiving the opportunity it is being handed by Trump (B).
There was nothing racist about that comment.
There was nothing racist there either. He didn't say all Mexicans were bad hombres, he said that many of the Mexicans sneaking across the Rio Grande are bad hombres.
These supposedly racist comments are actually good examples of how the MSM twists and distorts Trump's words to smear him.
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Was he perhaps referring to the different type of toilet associated with those countries?
He was saying that some countries are dreadful places, although they are inhabited by good people. Which is not only true but obviously true.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Here's Why Trump's 'Bad Hombres' Comment Was So Offensive
In this case Donald, no se puede.
"On Wednesday night, when moderator Chris Wallace asked Trump about immigration policy and reform, he began, as he often does, painting undocumented immigrants as violent criminals. (Despite research repeatedly proving native born citizens are more likely to be linked to violent crime than immigrants.) Then the GOP nominee moved on to drugs, drug lords and, again, the need to deport “bad people”:"
Do you have figures that dispute the graph shown in the article referred to there? Because if that's correct then it certainly is racist to pick on Mexicans.
It's exactly the same with the "MSM" as you charmingly put it, as opposed say to the far right publications which are admittedly incredibly fair to him, and accusations of misogyny. When he said "grab them by the pussy" he was noting that a lot of women owned cats and if you can just become friends with their cats the women will love you
You're not thinking about this logically. Your logic has been occluded by your visceral hatred for Trump as a person.
Trump wasn't claiming that Mexicans commit a disproportionate amount of crime. He was claiming that a significant proportion of Mexican illegal immigrants are criminals.
But the MSM deliberately and maliciously misrepresented his statement as racist, and millions of twits were fooled.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
You're not thinking about this logically. Your logic has been occluded by your visceral love for Trump as a person.
If Trump wasn't claiming that Mexicans commit a disproportionate amount of crime, why focus on them? Why the inflammatory language (hint: that's a clue to people who aren't blinded to it). What significant proportion?
But Trump apologists pretended he's not racist, and millions of the far right are fooled.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
FTFY.
Because he was asked about illegal immigration from Mexico.
He claimed that many illegal immigrants from Mexico are criminals. So if you want to convict him of racism, you'll need to show that this isn't true. Good luck with that.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Fuck's sake. Just his phrase 'bad hombres' was fucking racist. Just that on its own. And if you can't see that then you are the 'twit'.
FTFY.
Can you stop altering other people's posts please?
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