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I'm sorry, I'm still very far behind: why the fuck is he even interested in Greenland anyway?!

Is there any kind of historical link? Is Greenland actually just the convenient catalyst for some larger objective?

I think his ultimate goal is to be considered a president consequential enough to have his face added to Mount Rushmore, and he sees expanding the country as the best way to achieve that, with Greenland the easiest target
 
The Colombian government will continue to receive deported Colombians, “guaranteeing them dignified conditions,” Murillo said in a video statement late Sunday. "We have overcome the impasse with the United States government.”

I think the issue might have been the shackles placed on deportees - Colombia was already accepting an average of around two deportation flights a week under the Biden administration

 
All the Colombian president did was to make trump look stronger :mad:
Not quite, All South American countries will be reconsidering their trade link dependance on the USA as some already have ( Eg Brazil), as it has now proven itself to be a capritcious and unreliable partner.

The comrades in China are laughing their collective arses off , and won't miss an opportunity to take advantage.

No more eggs all in a US basket.

BRICS has also been given a motivational shove.

felon 34's egos been stroked in the short term, longer term, generational damage to US's standing/reputation in what it considers to be it's own back yard.
 
This whole "raise tarrifs " idea is surely going to backfire on the US. The extra costs paid by the importer will surely be passed on to US consumers?
The US probably won't have its own producers for everything. So US consumers will have to pay up.

Isn't he shooting the economy in the foot and making ordinary consumers pay for it?
 
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This whole "raise tarrifs " idea is surely going to backfire on the US. The extra costs will be passed on to US consumers surely?
The US probably won't have its own producers for everything. So US consumers will have to pay up.

Isn't he shooting the economy in the foot and making ordinary consumers pay for it?

Some of it is brinkmanship. People forget he did something very similar in his last term and it fits with his 'art of the deal' schtick to open with something overwhelming and aggressive, then extract maximum concessions.

But in some cases yes it will involve rising prices, and promises to bring back jobs to the US are optimistic to say the least - four years of tarrifs won't be persuading Ford to move its Transit production out of Turkey to revisit Detroit, for example. And agriculture doesn't move at all.
 
Thing is it wouldn't work even short term with any other country (well maybe China), because you need to already be unassailable to bully in that way. The US does have that leverage in at least some cases.

Long term it's quite likely bad strategy, ignoring how the web of mutual relationships works on the global stage. The 'not a reliable partner' bit is a killer.
 
Thing is it wouldn't work even short term with any other country (well maybe China), because you need to already be unassailable to bully in that way. The US does have that leverage in at least some cases.

Long term it's quite likely bad strategy, ignoring how the web of mutual relationships works on the global stage. The 'not a reliable partner' bit is a killer.
A lot of what he's threatening or acting on atm is bad strategy.
 
This whole "raise tarrifs " idea is surely going to backfire on the US. The extra costs paid by the importer will surely be passed on to US consumers?
The US probably won't have its own producers for everything. So US consumers will have to pay up.

Isn't he shooting the economy in the foot and making ordinary consumers pay for it?
When you read some of his statements about how tarrifs work, it would appear that he has a totally arse-backwards view of them. The impression he puts out is that 'his' tarrifs are more akin to a 'subscription fee' for being able to trade with 'the greatest country on earth(TM)' that's levied on the goods before they leave the supplier's country rather than what's charged dockside at the US ports in the form of a regressive blanket tax that the US consumer has to pony up for. I don't think the inflation of the price from point 'A' to point 'B' has even entered his thought process. Sort of like the end-point price of the item should be no different, its just the country trading with the US has to pay for the privilege. It's fucking mental.
 
When you read some of his statements about how tarrifs work, it would appear that he has a totally arse-backwards view of them. The impression he puts out is that 'his' tarrifs are more akin to a 'subscription fee' for being able to trade with 'the greatest country on earth(TM)' that's levied on the goods before they leave the supplier's country rather than what's charged dockside at the US ports in the form of a regressive blanket tax that the US consumer has to pony up for. I don't think the inflation of the price from point 'A' to point 'B' has even entered his thought process. Sort of like the end-point price of the item should be no different, its just the country trading with the US has to pay for the privilege. It's fucking mental.

That's what you get when tarrifs are preceded by thin-skinned tantrums.

That'll be his legacy: Tantrums and Tarrifs
 
I think the question is what the effects are for him when things don't work out how he wants. Keeping down inflation was put out there as a key driver of him being elected, but does it matter for him at this point if his policies actually put prices up? I mean I'd expect a lot of bluster and finger pointing, and they'll almost certainly start mangling any economic data to suppress anything negative, but if it's too obvious and people start feeling the pain does that matter to him? He's not going to get chucked out is he.
 
It’s so irresponsible. It doesn’t make him look big just an imbecile. Countries could refuse exports from America of fowl. Along with deportations where companies and farmers could go bust it will affect the American economy I think. He’s running America like he’s run his businesses for years.
 
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