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Speaking in Georgia yesterday

"Now the Marxist left is once again using the same corrupt DoJ [justice department] and the same corrupt FBI, and the attorney general and the local district attorneys to interfere … They’re cheating. They’re crooked. They’re corrupt. These criminals cannot be rewarded. They must be defeated. You have to defeat them.

Because in the end, they’re not coming after me. They’re coming after you and I’m just standing in their way"


Ramping up the fear and inciting violence. Again.
 
Trump inciting his followers to do insurrection stuff again:


"Our country (our world)"

In bleaker moments am often tempted to just think, ah fuck that country.

But the country is not defined by these MAGA types. Millions of Americans are not the hotheads or right wing loons that clog up social media.

Plenty of us have family and/or friends there. Mustn't give up on them.
 
Trump inciting his followers to do insurrection stuff again:


I'm confused. Are you supposed to answer when evil is knocking? Or do you not, and fight, erm... from behind the closed door?

Feels like the call to action, and just who is doing the calling (or, indeed, knocking), is all just a bit mixed up.

Sort of like if you kept your paperwork in a bunch of boxes in the shower, rather than using a proper filing system.
 
I hate brown window frames and doors. Gold taps and chandelier style wall lighting - it’s a bit Argos catalogue. All that money and he’s got shower curtains - one of the grossest inventions known to man. There’s nothing worse than trying to have a shower while a shower curtain draws itself to the water flow like a magnet. Sticking to your lower legs, while you just know half the guests who’ve been there before you have pissed on it.

I couldn’t store state secrets in among all that dreadful tat.

It looks like standard interior design for 1970's RVs, with the exception of the chandelier. Even they knew better than to put one in a bathroom.

On another note, Trump says that he's open to taking a plea deal as long as we pay him damages:

Trump further predicted that he will not be convicted on the federal charges stemming from the documents case. He also stressed that he would not accept a plea deal unless he was presented one "where they pay me some damages."

Trump Suggests He's Open to Taking Plea Deal With a Specific Condition

The hubris. The greed. They should send Melania a bill for the bullets it takes to execute the traitor.
 
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I saw somewhere that he's also going to be claiming attorney/client privilege for some of the most confidential documents so that they're not admissible in court. Given the flaky decision the judge made in the last case I wouldn't be surprised if she let it through.
 
All that money and he’s got shower curtains - one of the grossest inventions known to man. There’s nothing worse than trying to have a shower while a shower curtain draws itself to the water flow like a magnet. Sticking to your lower legs, while you just know half the guests who’ve been there before you have pissed on it.
I know, right?!!!
 
Glad the idiot is in court

But it could be for inciting insurrection which could be a better case for him

I so want him to stand trial for that though

Anyone know why it isn't happening?
 
I can't figure out why his co-conspirator, Walt Nauta, hasn't run directly into the prosecutor's office to make a deal. Unlike Trump he's likely to spend a long time in prison on these charges and has a good chance of being convicted. What makes him think that Trump will do anything but put the blame directly on him, as he's done with so many others?

Nauta is the latest in a series of Trump loyalists to face potential jail time after his work for the former president. Michael Cohen, Trump’s longtime fixer and attorney, spent more than 13 months in prison over payouts he helped arrange during the 2016 presidential race to keep women from going public about alleged sexual encounters with Trump. Allen Weisselberg, the former chief financial officer at the Trump Organization, just finished serving three months at Rikers Island after pleading guilty to receiving $1.7 million in unreported job perks.

“Loyalty to Donald Trump is like First Avenue in Manhattan: one way. History has shown time and again that Donald cares for no one other than himself,” said Cohen, who has since turned on Trump and eventually tried to win leniency by cooperating with prosecutors.

Nauta, according to the indictment unsealed Friday, played a crucial role in the alleged scheme with Trump, who is charged with 37 counts of illegally hoarding classified documents and obstructing the government’s efforts to get them back.

The government alleges Nauta helped pack Trump's boxes before he left the White House and repeatedly moved them to various rooms at Mar-a-Lago in response to Trump's requests.

At one point, the indictment alleges, Nauta discovered several boxes had fallen over in the storage room, dumping their contents on the floor. Nauta snapped and shared photographs of the scene, which included a document with a visible marking warning it was restricted to only the Five Eyes intelligence alliance of the U.S., U.K., Australia, Canada and New Zealand.

Nauta was key to Trump’s investigation early on, with FBI agents grilling him about the movement of boxes inside Mar-a-Lago weeks before serving their search warrant at the property. Like other witnesses close to Trump, though, his answers to law enforcement put him in legal jeopardy.

Although prosecutors say Nauta moved boxes of documents to Trump’s residence for his review at his direction, he lied to agents by saying he wasn’t aware of that happening, according to the indictment. And when agents asked if he knew where on the property the boxes had been stored, he said, “I wish, I wish I could tell you. I don’t know. I don’t — I honestly just don’t know.”

Nauta’s attorney, Stanley Woodward, declined to answer questions about the charges or any efforts to get his client to turn on the former president, but confirmed the two would appear together.

Nauta faces six federal charges, including conspiracy to obstruct justice, corruptly concealing a document or record and making false statements. His inclusion in the indictment was met by protest from Trump, who praised Nauta as “a wonderful man" who had ”done a fantastic job!"

“They are trying to destroy his life, like the lives of so many others, hoping that he will say bad things about ‘Trump.’ He is strong, brave, and a Great Patriot. The FBI and DOJ are CORRUPT!” he wrote.

Ty Cobb, the former White House attorney who served as Trump’s lawyer during the Russia investigation, said he felt sorry for Nauta, whom he described as a dutiful worker who “nods and then does what he’s been told to do.”

“I think Walt is easy prey for the president because this is a dedicated patriot,” he said. “The proudest moment he ever had was being named valet to the president and sadly the president he got named valet for was Trump.”

Cobb recalled Nauta stopping by his home, checking in on him and fetching him club soda when he was working late. He said he remembered how Nauta noticed — after dozens of uneaten hamburgers — that Cobb didn’t eat meat and quietly began substituting salmon for his lunches.

“I think it's really sad that people were not able to convince him of his misplaced loyalty," Cobb said of Nauta's decision not to cooperate with prosecutors. “He should be a witness. He shouldn’t be a defendant. But you can only dangle that opportunity for so long before you have to shoot. So I think it's tragic.”


https://www.khou.com/article/news/n...-him/507-7c679a2d-bb8a-4901-af71-413db0dd5b1b

I'm with Cohen here (as slimey as he is). Nauta should RUN as far and as fast as he can away from Trump.
 
The delusionalism is getting stronger by the minute..!

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Glad the idiot is in court

But it could be for inciting insurrection which could be a better case for him

I so want him to stand trial for that though

Anyone know why it isn't happening?
One case at a time. There's another January 6th case and a Georgia one, yet to come.
 
Haven't really been following the ins and outs of the whole thing. So, what's the chances of cuntychops either being locked up or put firmly in his place?
 
Making of Donald Trump” contains another incident, one that took place when Trump was the focus of another investigation. That previous incident took place all the way back in 1986. At the time, Trump was being investigated for failing to pay over $3 million in rent due to New York City from his operations at the Grand Hyatt Hotel.

The rent Trump paid for operating the city-owned property was based in part on his revenues at the site. In 1985, the rent had come to $3.7 million. But in 1986, Trump paid less than $700,000. So the city called for an audit to determine why there was such an abrupt change.

After years of investigation during which Trump and his attorneys were accused by the city of “stonewalling” and “obfuscation,” auditors reported to the city that Trump was missing most of the required documentation. In particular, over half of the monthly ledgers that were legally required to track operations at the hotel were missing.

The reason provided by Trump was that the ledgers “were discarded after they were severely damaged by water when the room in which they were stored was flooded.”
 
Haven't really been following the ins and outs of the whole thing. So, what's the chances of cuntychops either being locked up or put firmly in his place?

hard to know but even some trumpers recognize that it's a solid indictment


national review went with "Trump is nailed dead to rights", but then went on to cast it in terms of electability, not "he's a moral cesspit." the ones defending him are the goons and they're not even challenging the contents of it.

as we say over here, "ain't nothin" gonna happen" but this time it could happen. watch for postponements, flimflam, screaming, etc.
 
It's going to take forever to get to actual trial and it's a jury trial in Florida so no matter how damning the evidence they may just decide it's unfair and acquit him.

The question is rather whether he gets convicted in the court of public opinion before the election.
 
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