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Yep. He was in no danger of going to prison here. The standard of proof is different too. In a criminal trial, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt." In a civil trial, its "the preponderance of evidence."
Still, in a country where attitudes to Trump tend to be highly polarised, it's gratifying that not one of the 12 jurors believed his bullshit. Probably down to some careful jury challenges from the E Jean Carroll's team to get rid of potential maga nuts (assuming they do jury challenges in civil cases :hmm:).

edit - yes, New York Civil Practice Law Section 4109 - Peremptory Challenges.
 
Trump: WHAT ELSE CAN YOU EXPECT FROM A TRUMP HATING, CLINTON APPOINTED JUDGE, WHO WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESULT WAS AS NEGATIVE AS IT COULD POSSIBLY BE, SPEAKING TO, AND IN CONTROL OF, A JURY FROM AN ANTI-TRUMP AREA WHICH IS PROBABLY THE WORST PLACE IN THE U.S. FOR ME TO GET A FAIR “TRIAL."

It's also the place where he spent the first 70 years of his life :D
 
Donald Trump used to “stroll right in” to the dressing room of beauty pageants while the contestants - some of whom were teenagers - were naked or half-dressed, a former model has claimed.

She added that people who worked for Mr Trump “pressured” the women to “fawn over him, go walk up to him, talk to him, get his attention” while still not fully dressed.

Ms Dixon added the situation made them feel awkward and physically vulnerable.

Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant also said the Republican used to walk in. Some of the girls were as young as 15.


Fucking nonce. He owned the 'pageant' btw.
 
The standard of proof is different too. In a criminal trial, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt." In a civil trial, its "the preponderance of evidence."

thanks.

think it's similar in england - 'balance of probability' in civil cases. think there have been some cases like that here where someone's either been found not guilty at criminal trial, or it's not got to criminal trial. although it's only worthwhile if the person accused has got money - and the person bringing the case needs to find their legal costs from somewhere.
 

Fucking nonce. He owned the 'pageant' btw.

There’s a video of this sexual abuser openly admitting to this. And to think him and his worthless supporters get away with calling anybody else ‘groomers’.
 
hmm watching some more conservatives talking heads on the uk trying to defend trump this morning is kinda interesting

he might be a sex offender but Putin would not of invaded ukraine if he was in power :hmm:
 
Christ.

Numerous sexual assaults, inciting insurrection, racism, hush money payments, twice impeached...

He really could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it.

You can win the case, and still not get paid. This lady won a multi-million dollar case against Alex Jones:

Not long ago, very late at night, Erica Lafferty was projectile vomiting while trying to listen to a podcast. Lafferty is undergoing treatment for Stage II orbital lymphoma, a tumor that she says roughly tripled in size over 14 weeks. Her family and friends recently set up a GoFundMe to help her pay for her treatment, and Lafferty had noticed a donation, and a note, that she didn’t quite understand. It was from a name she didn’t recognize, and in their comment, the person called themselves “a wonk.”

Googling the two terms together, Lafferty found a Reddit thread and realized she’d recently been discussed on Knowledge Fight, a podcast where two former comedians from Chicago, Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes, microscopically analyze Alex Jones and Infowars, using a combination of mockery, outrage, analysis, interviews, and play-by-plays of his broadcasts.

Lafferty is an accidental and deeply reluctant Jones expert herself. After her mother, Dawn Hochsprung, was murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary in December of 2012, shot trying to protect her students, Lafferty was targeted by conspiracy theorists who insisted that her mother had never lived, or died, at the school. Lafferty was one of several plaintiffs in a Connecticut lawsuit against Jones; in October, he was ordered to pay a total default judgment of $965 million to them, plus $473 million in punitive damages awarded by the judge. The jury awarded Lafferty $76 million, plus more in punitive damages, totaling around $100 million in all.

The gigantic judgments levied against Jones offered a moment of bittersweet vindication for the families, who were terrorized for years by conspiracy theorists—Jones the largest and loudest among them. But none of the plaintiffs have, as yet, seen a dime of the money awarded to them. Jones and Infowars have both filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, and the bankruptcy proceedings have become increasingly baroque, with the plaintiffs often objecting that Jones seems to be hiding or moving money during the process. There is no indication as to when the Sandy Hook plaintiffs, who are now also creditors in the bankruptcy, might be paid, or how much the judgment could be reduced.

And now, less than a year later, Lafferty is also being treated for the lymphoma, a process she says has already been brutal. (Lafferty’s cancer battle was first reported by the Hartford Courant and Connecticut Public Radio.) Lafferty says her insurance has refused to cover her chemotherapy drugs, deeming them “elective” since the cancer is still not very advanced; she’s also undergoing radioactive iodine therapy, which carries other significant costs.

“Everything you touch is a biohazard,” Lafferty said. Towels and bed linens can only be used once and then have to be discarded; the patient has to sleep alone for seven days after treatment and avoid all physical contact with others for a period of time. “I have to pay to have a biohazard company to come and pick up my waste and dispose of it in a safe manner,” Lafferty says. When she and her husband made an Amazon list pre-treatment to try to tally up her costs for everything that would have to be used, thrown away, and replaced repeatedly, “it was like several thousand dollars” per round of treatment, she said. Her doctors expect she will need to undergo six to seven rounds of treatment over the next year.


I don't know which way to be outraged by this. Should I be angry that Alex Jones hasn't paid up and she has to crowdfund cancer treatment as a result? Or, should I be outraged that we have a medical system that demands large sums of money for treatment? Or, that anyone has to crowdfund cancer treatment at all?
 
Logan Hall
@loganclarkhall
trump proposes a bold national vision for america:

1. use federal land to build new cities
2. develop flying cars
3. revitalize rural industries
4. launch a baby boom with bonuses for young parents
5. beautification campaign, get rid of ugly buildings

So does step 5 mean they can knockdown Trump's hideous Trump Towers and all the other shitty edifices he has built.🤔
 
hmm no need to break the link its a few post up fella

trump going lets go back to the wild west is a interesting take
 
'Flying cars', fuck me. :facepalm: As well as being the kind of nonsense that trump would be all over, it really does show capitalism's ability to give the world things it not only doesn't need, but are actually grossly offensive in an era of climate disaster and massive inequality.
 
'Flying cars', fuck me. :facepalm: As well as being the kind of nonsense that trump would be all over, it really does show capitalism's ability to give the world things it not only doesn't need, but are actually grossly offensive in an era of climate disaster and massive inequality.

i'm sure elon musk is working on the prototypes already...
 
'Flying cars', fuck me. :facepalm: As well as being the kind of nonsense that trump would be all over, it really does show capitalism's ability to give the world things it not only doesn't need, but are actually grossly offensive in an era of climate disaster and massive inequality.

I’ve never understood the obsession with flying cars given how badly people manage to drive them on the ground.

Lanes of uncontrolled missiles sound terrifying
 
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