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Donald Trump got turned down!!!!!!!!!

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geminisnake said:
The man wouldn't know integrity if it smacked him between the eyes!
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Exactly, which is why I suppose we will be lumbered with the whining cunt for the foreseeable future. :(

He was having a major toys-oot-the-pram moment on the BBC Aberdeen news tonight.
 
...In a statement, the developer attacked his former friend and ally Alex Salmond, the first minister. "This was a purely political decision," Trump said.

"As dictated by Alex Salmond, a man whose obsession with obsolete wind technology will destroy the magnificence and beauty of Scotland. Likewise, tourism, Scotland's biggest industry, will be ruined. We will spend whatever monies are necessary to see to it that these huge and unsightly industrial wind turbines are never constructed.

"All over the world they are being abandoned, but in Scotland they are being built. We will put our future plans in Aberdeen on hold, as will many others, until this ridiculous proposal is defeated. Likewise, we will be bringing a lawsuit within the allocated period of time to stop what will definitely be the destruction of Aberdeen and Scotland itself."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/mar/26/scottish-government-approves-windfarm-donald-trump
:)
 
Just a quick pause to remind everyone that the windfarm scheme was on the table long before Trump was involved and his entire project has gone ahead with the full knowledge of Vatenfall's plan.

So I reckon that whatever might or might not have gone-on behind closed doors, Trump is in no position whatsoever to pursue any action that claims his scheme was affected by the plan in any way.

Meanwhile, Aberdeenshire Council's planning committee have stalled the retrospective application for the bunds, pending a site visit and public hearing - despite their own planners advising it should be passed:

http://aberdeenvoice.com/2013/03/trumps-retrospective-planning-application-deferred/

This is a first as up to now, they have rolled-over to every deviation from the plan and planning conditions. I'm not exactly holding my breath but maybe, just maybe the tide has turned?
 
I don't know what Trump's problem is, other than he's not getting his own way. As I've said before, the houses would barely see the windfarm anyway from their position, and that test facility is invaluable to the wind industry.

Hopefully this will be good news for Aberdeen :)
 
I watched a documentary last week: You've Been Trumped. I don't like Trump and his Obama-is-foreign-born nonsense. I think the man had the right to go to Scotland and pitch the idea, but the level of police involvement - as portrayed on the documentary - in support of a private project seems wrong on all accounts.

One think kind of interesting: offshore windfarms usually get raked over the coals in U75 threads, as does the Trump project. So when we get Trump facing off against Scottish windfarms, which side will U75ers support?
 
As an aside, Trump is now involved in a Vancouver project. Not a big deal, since it's downtown and is filling in an empty hole. But Steve Wynn was in town a few years ago wanting to build a casino, and was told - politely mind you - to fuck off. He was pretty sour grapes about it all.:D
 
Johnny Canuck3 said:
I think the man had the right to go to Scotland and pitch the idea.

One think kind of interesting: offshore windfarms usually get raked over the coals in U75 threads, as does the Trump project. So when we get Trump facing off against Scottish windfarms, which side will U75ers support?
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Everyone has the right to come and pitch an idea but to claim it was in memory of your mother, as he did, was utter bollocks. His mother was born in the western Isles iirc so why choose the NE coast? Plus there have already been several failed similar attempts at what he was planning, plus a few that got off the ground for a very SHORT time. The man is an arrogant bullying dickhead who his creditors are scared to pull the plug on.

I don't get the anti wind farm thing at all. I like the windmills and if they are out at sea why not?
 
Johnny Canuck3 said:
One think kind of interesting: offshore windfarms usually get raked over the coals in U75 threads, as does the Trump project. So when we get Trump facing off against Scottish windfarms, which side will U75ers support?
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You do realise that Trump is financing a great deal of the anti-windfarm opposition for this scheme and has been doing so for quite some time?

And its not just a windfarm, EOWDC is a development site for testing new turbine designs. Quite an important project for making wind a more practical proposition in the future.
 
equationgirl said:
I don't know what Trump's problem is, other than he's not getting his own way. As I've said before, the houses would barely see the windfarm anyway from their position, and that test facility is invaluable to the wind industry.

Hopefully this will be good news for Aberdeen :)
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EOWDC is certainly going to pump a hell of a lot more money into the local economy than Trump ever will - Current figures suggest at least ten times compared to Trump's accounts.
 
pogofish said:
You do realise that Trump is financing a great deal of the anti-windfarm opposition for this scheme and has been doing so for quite some time?

And its not just a windfarm, EOWDC is a development site for testing new turbine designs. Quite an important project for making wind a more practical proposition in the future.
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I'm not surprised about the financing. I just seem to recall more than one thread over the years where the general feeling was anti-offshore-windfarm.
 
Johnny Canuck3 said:
I'm not surprised about the financing. I just seem to recall more than one thread over the years where the general feeling was anti-offshore-windfarm.
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It is the case that a lot of Scottish windfarm schemes have been sketchy as fuck till they tightened-up the subsidy regs a while back but when it comes to offshore, the situation seems very different and much more viable overall.
 
Johnny Canuck3 said:
I don't like Trump and his Obama-is-foreign-born nonsense.
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Also remember his quotes relating to the Central Park Five (black, later found innocent):

"What were they doing in the park, playing checkers?"

''I want to hate these muggers and murderers,'' Mr. Trump wrote. ''They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes.''

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/01/n...-trump-urges-return-of-the-death-penalty.html

And his early-career race case over the very few black people in his properties:

http://www.salon.com/2011/04/28/donald_trump_discrimination_suit/
 
pogofish said:
Also remember his quotes relating to the Central Park Five (black, later found innocent):

"What were they doing in the park, playing checkers?"

''I want to hate these muggers and murderers,'' Mr. Trump wrote. ''They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes.''

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/01/n...-trump-urges-return-of-the-death-penalty.html

And his early-career race case over the very few black people in his properties:

http://www.salon.com/2011/04/28/donald_trump_discrimination_suit/
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Trump is a very very rich man who started life as the son of a very rich man. What he thinks bears little relationship to anything that the rest of us value.
 
Johnny Canuck3 said:
Trump is a very very rich man who started life as the son of a very rich man. What he thinks bears little relationship to anything that the rest of us value.
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Yes. And here, he rings-true with a certain section of the population who have long placed their own value well ahead of everyone else's
 
Just watched the Panorama doc on iPlayer- what a foul man- and that stuff about doing it for his mum made me want to be sick.' I want to make a lot of money on a golf course because its what my mum would have wanted...' Not a hospice or park of course. Sickening man. Annoyed about how much it was allowed to happen by the authorities as well.
 
cyberfairy said:
' I want to make a lot of money on a golf course because its what my mum would have wanted...' Not a hospice or park of course. Sickening man.
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The golf course is only the thin end of the wedge - What Trump is really looking to make money from is the whopping great hotel, timeshare flats/lodges and upmarket housing scheme planned for the estate.

All that building this course really served was to remove the major planning impediment to his "masterplan" - by destroying the SSSI and building this "driver" for further development, he can now do more or less what he wants with the place. :(
 
Here it is - The plan for the second course:

http://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/Portals/0/images/Trump-full-plan.jpg

Michael Forbes place is the smaller area enclosed by the bold red line. See how his access road is handled!

And on the coast, do I really see that they propose to plant large belts of heather to stabilise the dunes - that is totally at odds with the current largely Marram landscape!

Compare with Google maps here:

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ll=57.265377,-2.02908&spn=0.019238,0.038581&t=h&z=15

Note the portion south of the Blairton Burn - Again, destroying the last remaining mobile dunes/sand dome on the site (sadly not part of the SSSI) and bumping right aginst the public access at Balmedie beach - closing-off a large chunk of land that has been open to all for many, many years. :(
 
Glad he got a poke in the eye, but I must admit they do look rather ugly - couldn't they make them retractable, only deployed whenever candy floss head farts?
 
I see Trump has vented his spleen by "announcing" he's bought the failed Doonbeg Golf Resort in Ireland and will now be concentrating his "investment" there.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/...uys-doonbeg-golf-resort-in-co-clare-1.1687474

As environmental issues affecting further development were one of the reasons behind its failure, it might be interesting to see if he will be out to get Irish protection laws overturned?
 
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