Donald Trump got turned down!!!!!!!!!

[pogofish]

Trippinguptrump have another petition going, a gig on Friday and possibly another stroll on the dunes coming-up.

More details here:

http://www.trippinguptrump.com/

 

[pogofish]

Both Turnberry and Loch Lomond are now announcing substantial job cuts - Over a third of the staff in Loch Lomond's case.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8308695.stm

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...-after-being-hit-by-recession-86908-21748375/

Along with a contraction of Turnberry's renovation plans.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7939773.stm

As for Trump, Tilda Swinton has weighed-in against him and even some of the more respected names in the golf media are beginning to voice concerns in public about the viability of the scheme.

http://news.scotsman.com/donaldtrump/Tilda-on--Trump-He39s.5718561.jp

http://news.scotsman.com/donaldtrump/Tom-English-Donald-plays-his.5701869.jp

www.scottishgolfview.com

What Scotland needs is well-run and affordable hotels and golf courses

By Alistair Tait SATURDAY, OCTOBER 03, 2009

The prospect of four families being turned out of their homes for the sake of a golf course does not bear thinking about. we’re supposed to be civilised over here. Imagine what the families feel like not knowing if they are going to continue living in their own home. Why Trump and his people think a luxury resort in Aberdeen will have any better chance of success than Turnberry is beyond me. Aberdeen is a nice city, but the golf season (April to October) doesn’t last very long in the North-east of Scotland
As for here at St. Andrews, Trump is said to be interested in buying Hamilton Hall, the former student residence behind the 18th green that was recently earmarked to become luxury apartments. Former golf course designer Richard Wax is dismayed that this part of St Andrews heritage might fall into the hands of wealthy businessmen and will only be for the elite. Trump has competition from Old Course Hotel owner Herb Kohler and Irish businessman Dermot Desmond. There is a good chance both projects will get the go ahead and be for the wealthy elite only. The endangered residents on the Menie Estate are living proof that cash is King in Scotland for Sale.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Hasn't the Scottish govt approved the plan, and isn't it going ahead?

 

[alan2001]

when i first heard about this development, i took the opportunity to visit the area for the first time in my life before it became closed to the public.

i went out as far as i could go on my motorbike, right to the beach, and felt an overwhelming urge to fashion a temporary adhoc art installation, to mark the occasion.

i do not know if Mr Trump witnessed it or not.

i'm still undecided on the issue. it will bring a lot of work and money to the area, but attempting to force so many people out with CPOs is pretty evil.

 

[pogofish]

Hasn't the Scottish govt approved the plan, and isn't it going ahead?

The govt only awarded outline permission, subject to a strict set of conditions. Whilst Trump has been backpeadling like mad on certain aspects of the project because he knows they won't break-even just now.

Each individual element of the scheme is still has to obtain detailed permission before construction can begin and there seems to have been a considerable amount of deviation from the approved project timescale and masterplan, along with a fair amount of non-compliance with other conditions.

So no, plenty to challenge him on yet.

 

[pogofish]

i do not know if Mr Trump witnessed it or not.

i'm still undecided on the issue. it will bring a lot of work and money to the area, but attempting to force so many people out with CPOs is pretty evil.

Careful, he will have you hunted down under anti-terrorism laws or slap a lawsuit on your ass for defaming his "character!"

It won't bring much of either TBH. The financial statement to the PLI is linked both on this thread and in plenty of other places and makes it quite clear that Trump's "investment" is laughable - The rest is a property bubble.

As for work, nope. The 400 bed staff hostel in the plan suggests he won't be recruiting more than a few token locals.

 

[Kate Hillier]

Howdy Folks!
And Amen to that! We don't want any Trump Towers Trump This or Trump That down in old wee Bonnie Scotland.
(I am 1/4 Scottish but live in England but have yet to visit/get to know/hunker down to a bit of Scotland who I follow on Celtic Radio, Radio Scotland, Hogmanay on BBC etc).

 

[The Boy]

Howdy Folks!
And Amen to that! We don't want any Trump Towers Trump This or Trump That down in old wee Bonnie Scotland.
(I am 1/4 Scottish but live in England but have yet to visit/get to know/hunker down to a bit of Scotland who I follow on Celtic Radio, Radio Scotland, Hogmanay on BBC etc).

eh?

 

[Kate Hillier]

General supportive remark to our Scottish friends @ theboy. I hope this barstard gets stopped.

 

[joustmaster]

PAINT MY FENCE

 

[Kate Hillier]

*The only thing Trump is good for is The Apprentice. There he has his worth but apart from that he is an absolute piece of Shite*

 

[pogofish]

Well let's hope he makes more of an utter arse of himself now he's going-up before Holyrood with his protest against the windfarm scheme!

 

[geminisnake]

Why are they even giving him the chance though? Deny him air time and he can't blow his own trumpet! Salmond was a moron to ever go near him

 

[Kate Hillier]

I agree although I am ignorant of Scottish Politics bar Alex Salmond I am fearful he might be up the arse of the Bullingdon Club.
Scotland should make the decisions it needs to make even if Cameron doesn't like it and gets stuffed because of it.

 

[pogofish]

I somehow doubt Salmond and the Bullingdons will have that much truck with each other!

However in the space of a few weeks, Trump has gone from being Salmond's new best friend to openly threatening him, so now we are lumbered with the cunt, any opportunity for him to bite the hand that fed him is all good!

After all, Trump only has a few months more to bluster and bullshit before having to open his course and actually deliver on all his (largely preposterous) promises.

 

[pogofish]

And Trump's on the news tonight - He's calling Salmond "Mad Alex". Even the Liberals are coming out in his defence and their role in the Trump debacle is not glorious.

Give him enough rope.....!

 

[Kate Hillier]

Trump is a selfish git the face of the most venal form of Capitalism since it was invented ie Shock Therapy see Naomi Klein 'The Shock Doctrine'.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Howdy Folks!
And Amen to that! We don't want any Trump Towers Trump This or Trump That down in old wee Bonnie Scotland.

Shouldn't that be up?

 

[pogofish]

And after all the shite about how "great" the Trumps were because they "banned" wildfowling on the estate:

And yes, it seems we get Trump Jr as part of the deal - He seems to be spending a fair bit of time here since Trump Dubai went down the lavvy.

Sorry for the sun link!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...tures-of-them-hunting-big-game-in-Africa.html

 

[Kate Hillier]

We don't want Mr Trump UP in Wee Bonnie Scotland. We don't want his porky form and attempts at pseudo-Scottishness. ( Moi is 1/4 Scottish Praise be) he is a profoundly alienating presence.
As for Alex Salmond I am so glad he is sensible enough NOT to be up the arse of the Bullingdon Club.*crosses fingers* Wishes lots of love best etc for this yet unvisited Country.xx

 

[Kate Hillier]

Don't know if any of you guys read Tatler but hear me out.
So far I have not seen in featured in Bystander.
If he was there, then we have cause to worry. If he was fraternizing with the Scottish Set round many Estates, bairds whatever.(Pardon my profound ignorance of Scotland that I love). Maybe he is with the American High Society Set.? Again where he figures in the social hierachy affects us if he goes round in the wrong circles.

 

[Kate Hillier]

The Caledonian Ball is featured in Tatler on an Annual basis that is when the Scottish Aristos come out to play plus any English Folks as appropriate.

 

[Kate Hillier]

Scotland has famous Hunting Grounds so don't count our chickens...

 

[Kate Hillier]

He is dangerously anti-Renewables and Wind Power. Shame on him.
As an aside the Corporate hostility against Wind Power and Public Antipathy towards them because of NIMBYISM does not help.

 

[gosub]

Trump can fuck himself but it would be nice if they updated wind turbine design to include surrounding cowling. Is irritating to see all these wind farms and there are a lot of them, wasting energy

 

[equationgirl]

Don't know if any of you guys read Tatler but hear me out.
So far I have not seen in featured in Bystander.
If he was there, then we have cause to worry. If he was fraternizing with the Scottish Set round many Estates, bairds whatever.(Pardon my profound ignorance of Scotland that I love). Maybe he is with the American High Society Set.? Again where he figures in the social hierachy affects us if he goes round in the wrong circles.

Tatler is a posh upper class society magazine, unlikely to be read by many on this site, Kate

 

[equationgirl]

Trump can fuck himself but it would be nice if they updated wind turbine design to include surrounding cowling. Is irritating to see all these wind farms and there are a lot of them, wasting energy

Adding a surrounding cowling to the large offshore turbines would probably not be beneficial due to increased weight on foundations and increased manufacturing/materials costs.

 

[pogofish]

Well, the main purpose of the windfarm that Trump is objecting to is research into new designs, so we can expect a variety of turbines. It is not just another generating station.

And I'm as dubious as many others about the current application of windpower in Scotland and its long term effects on the environment, landscape and diversity of other renewables but offshore does deal with a these problems more effectively.

And the scheme was proposed long before Trump's development started, so he can hardly complain about not knowing about it all along.

 

[equationgirl]

Well, the main purpose of the windfarm that Trump is objecting to is research into new designs, so we can expect a variety of turbines. It is not just another generating station.

And I'm as dubious as many others about the current application of windpower in Scotland and its long term effects on the environment, landscape and diversity of other renewables but offshore does deal with a these problems more effectively.

And the scheme was proposed long before Trump's development started, so he can hardly complain about not knowing about it all along.

Exactly. It's important for continued growth of the industry - besides, Aberdeen is full of engineers who would love a view of wind turbines from their bedroom windows, so I don't understand what his issues are. I'm not convinced that he'll fulfil his prmoises and I suspect his latest antics are a diversionary tactic so people don't notice the lack of achievement.

 

[pogofish]

Well, Trump has been invited to address Holyrood on the 25th of April.