Does Lenin have anything useful to say

[likesfish]

Somebody told me to read some Lenin .
Is their anything actually useful to learn from him?
Once your committing Torture and massacre your ideas are pretty worthless. Be like reading Churchill's views on how to run the middle East.
Posion gas might be effective but only a monster would go along with it.

 

[magneze]

Don't run with scissors.

That was Lenin.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Dead people generally don't have anything useful to say in my experience.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Don't run with scissors.

I've never once seen someone run with scissors in their hand. The saying sounds like it's made up.

 

[magneze]

I've never once seen someone run with scissors in their hand - I think this is an urban myth.

I've seen this but once you scream at them in the original Russian they never do it again.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I've seen this but once you scream at them in the original Russian they never do it again.

Maybe you have to be able to speak Russian for it to happen in the first place - which explains why I've never seen it.

 

[seventh bullet]

As far as I'm aware Lenin never called for the genocidal murder of an entire country's population, like the OP has.

 

[likesfish]

As far as I'm aware Lenin never called for the genocidal murder of an entire country's population, like the OP has.

Red Terror - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Becaus that didn't actually happen

 

[Santino]

Imagine there's no heaven

 

[DotCommunist]

'the only correct, point of view, the Labour Party is a thoroughly bourgeois party, because, although made up of workers, it is led by reactionaries, and the worst kind of reactionaries at that, who act quite in the spirit of the bourgeoisie. It is an organisation of the bourgeoisie...'

where is the lie

 

[hitmouse]

Depends what you want to do, surely? Like if you're trying to overthrow the Romanov dynasty there's probably some useful advice in there. I suppose there's an argument to be made that if you really want to get into arguing with Leninists it's probably helpful to read him, like them atheists who get really into studying theology and stuff, although there is also a counter-argument to be made that our time on this earth is brief and fleeting and there's lots of things more fun and rewarding to do with your time than reading Lenin, so up to you really?
Iirc, "Left-Wing Communism..." was quite short, so you could read that if you just want to read a little bit of Lenin, you're braver than me if you fancy trying to wade through Materialism and Emprio-Criticism, though.

 

[seventh bullet]

Don't bother. He's been doing this shit for years.

 

[redsquirrel]

Red Terror - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Becaus that didn't actually happen

Where is the genocide there?

Don't bother. He's been doing this shit for years.

Yeah, you'd think he would be better at it by now

 

[seventh bullet]

Red Terror - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Becaus that didn't actually happen

What has that got to do with you being a racist numpty?

 

[A380]

I find his theories easier to synthesise in the original Russian TBF.

 

[Sweet FA]

I've never once seen someone run with scissors in their hand. The saying sounds like it's made up.

There's a stage at primary school when some kids think that success is measured by how fast you do something, regardless of absolutely everything else.

Most teachers learn very quickly not to say things like "could you bring the scissors over please?" without saying a specific name. I have witnessed four 6 year olds dashing across a classroom, elbows out; scissors clasped in hands; each swing of the arm bringing the blades ever closer to the respective child's eyeball, in a desperate effort to be the most helpful child in the room.

All running towards me.

 

[platinumsage]

He said loads of stuff that is relevant today, you just have to Google it:

 

[BristolEcho]

There's a stage at primary school when some kids think that success is measured by how fast you do something, regardless of absolutely everything else.

Most teachers learn very quickly not to say things like "could you bring the scissors over please?" without saying a specific name. I have witnessed four 6 year olds dashing across a classroom, elbows out; scissors clasped in hands; each swing of the arm bringing the blades ever closer to the respective child's eyeball, in a desperate effort to be the most helpful child in the room.

All running towards me.

Not sure I ever grew out of that.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

There's a stage at primary school when some kids think that success is measured by how fast you do something, regardless of absolutely everything else.

Most teachers learn very quickly not to say things like "could you bring the scissors over please?" without saying a specific name. I have witnessed four 6 year olds dashing across a classroom, elbows out; scissors clasped in hands; each swing of the arm bringing the blades ever closer to the respective child's eyeball, in a desperate effort to be the most helpful child in the room.

All running towards me.

Teachers should stop using children as unpaid dogsbodies.

 

[Sweet FA]

Give me four years to teach the children not to run with scissors and the seed I have sown will be uprooted the first time you say "where are the scissors?"

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Give me four years to teach the children not to run with scissors and the seed I have sown will be uprooted the first time you say "where are the scissors?"

No, they'll just reply in unison 'get them yourself you lazy bastard'

 

[Sweet FA]

They're not my fucking scissors; I'm allowed to have the big sharp ones now

 

[farmerbarleymow]

They're not my fucking scissors; I'm allowed to have the big sharp ones now

Why are you asking children to bring you scissors if you already have your own pair?

 

[Sweet FA]

Dude, there's one of me. I've been socialised into exercising restrictions over my instincts so I'm allowed the big sharp scissors. There are 30 of them, many with little to no self control. They get the small blunt ones. Just don't fucking run with them, that's all I'm asking.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Just don't fucking run with them, that's all I'm asking.

I don't - never had any desire too, even when I was at school.

 

[Sweet FA]

BristolEcho otoh, I can virtually guarantee he's nearly had his own/someone else's eye out on more than one occasion.

 

[Pickman's model]

There is much of value in the compilation 'lenin and library organisation'

 

[tim]

If the German Communists were to occupy a railway station, they all buy platform tickets first.

He who does not work: neither shall he eat. - which he nicked from St Paul.

Left-handed scissors good; right-handed scissors bad.

It looked as though St Paul's Cathedral had come down to Brighton and pupped (although that could have been Queen Victoria)

 

[JimW]

There is much of value in the compilation 'lenin and library organisation'

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I thought the third in the series collecting his comments on tea-towel folding was a better presented volume. But what can you do?

 

[Pickman's model]

Why are you asking children to bring you scissors if you already have your own pair?

Then he has more pairs, and to be blunt as we all know points make prizes