Doctor Who Series 8
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I thougth Smith was the worst doctor ever.
Partnered with the worst scripts ever.
All the goofy affectations won't work with Capaldi either. I can't see someone like that randomly picking up a fex and wearing it. So hopefully things will get a more 'serious' - ie less silly/tomfoolery (more tombakery please!)
According to the Mirror 9 days ago, Clara is leaving at xmas. Boo fucking hoo. They need to bring in Terry Coverly as his new companion.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
He didn't fancy her. I think we were meant to think she fancied him, but that was so poorly handled i was never quite sure.
I'll have to watch it again but I think the bit with Clara putting the phone on the hook was also in The Time of the Doctor So I'd guess just before that. As they skipped hundreds of years throughout the episode they probably didn't think a "three minutes later" caption was necessary.Okay smarty pants, when during all that did he have time to make the phone call.
bubblesmcgrath
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Very disappointed with the new doctor.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
Jesus, some of you are hard to please.
It was a return to form, and Capaldi was excellent. Moffat managed to reign in most of his mawkish tendencies most of the time, and Clara was finally an asset to the programme.
As for "recycling" stories. Ahem: Daleks. The Doctor often recognises his foes; he's been around.
If you're expecting something it isn't: don't. Go elsewhere.
It was a return to form, and Capaldi was excellent. Moffat managed to reign in most of his mawkish tendencies most of the time, and Clara was finally an asset to the programme.
As for "recycling" stories. Ahem: Daleks. The Doctor often recognises his foes; he's been around.
If you're expecting something it isn't: don't. Go elsewhere.
joustmaster
offcumdun
I just checked it. as an old man he blasts loads of daleks out of the sky with his magic powers. everyone hides inside a house. clara comes out after the dust settles, and hangs the phone up, then goes into the tardis to find a young doctor.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Clockwork robots harvesting human organs to repair their spaceship.
magneze
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What's your evidence for this lack of confidence in Capaldi? I don't see it.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
Yes.
My point was that there are many recycled stories. In fact, the show is loved for them. Daleks, Cybermen, The Master, Zygons, Autons, Silurians, Sontarans, and so on.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
The a difference between reoccurring villains, and having the same baddies turn up to do the exact same thing they were doing last time.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
They all do. The Daleks exterminate. The Cybermen delete. The robot spaceship crew harvest body parts.
I don't have a problem with that; it was introduced differently. A good adventure was made from it. (My problem is when baddies are squandered the way the Weeping Angels were).
well...the appearance of Dr Smith!
magneze
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The appearance of Dr Smith in the episode is evidence for a lack of confidence in Dr Capaldi because Dr Smith appears in the episode.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
All I am hearing is the whining of fair weather fans, weaned on a diet of easily digestable new who. You weren't there man, during the interregenum when there was no Who. I had to watch old VHS tapes of Colin Bakers era ffs. I had to subscribe to Doctor Who magazine! 'Oh I don't like it, he's changed. The story wasn't very good. Oh the doctor looked needy' his essential needy lonliness, the desire for companions to see the reflection of what he wants to be in their faces- thats always an essential plank of any era doctor. Ditto the silly affectations
You people make me sick
You people make me sick
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
fucthest8
Cool people die horrible, preventable deaths.
Just to echo others, fuck me you people do like a whinge eh?
It's a family show. They have to cater for a very broad range of ages and whatnot. This was the first episode for a new Doctor, they needed to link back to the last series and tie up a few things. Which they did through 2 minutes of the old Doctor. So fucking what?
It's a family show. They have to cater for a very broad range of ages and whatnot. This was the first episode for a new Doctor, they needed to link back to the last series and tie up a few things. Which they did through 2 minutes of the old Doctor. So fucking what?
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Its was the first episode of a new series with a new doctor. The focus is going to be on the new doctor and everyone else readjusting to him. That was was done very well. The monster bit of the plot was always going to be secondary - yes it was a bit daft, but still managed some proper scariness. Overall it was a very entertaining episode that did its job.
My main issues with new who has been too much exploration on the doctors relationships with his compansions - usually via the medium of mawkish sentimentality. But for me - and I suspect many others - the best who is when they have rattlingly good scary, monster yarns where the doctor and gang win the day in through genunine wit, guile and courage (not whooshing them into space with some convenient super TARDIS space magic shooting out of someones arse).
I hope we have more of this in the new series - and Capaldi is definitely a step in the right direction.
My main issues with new who has been too much exploration on the doctors relationships with his compansions - usually via the medium of mawkish sentimentality. But for me - and I suspect many others - the best who is when they have rattlingly good scary, monster yarns where the doctor and gang win the day in through genunine wit, guile and courage (not whooshing them into space with some convenient super TARDIS space magic shooting out of someones arse).
I hope we have more of this in the new series - and Capaldi is definitely a step in the right direction.
ginger_syn
Her Insanity laughs under pressure...👾
it's funny how people can watch the same programme and end up seeing completely different things. for me the scene showed moffat's absolute confidence in capaldi and his ability to own the part, much as I loved smiths doctor his cameo didn't in any way undermine my acceptance of capaldi , who for me focused into The Doctor from the point he said don't look in the mirror it's furious, 'though I do understand your issues with Moffat as I have the same frothy mouthed reaction to the work of Dan Brown
and at least he not writing my favourite show. While it may be no comfort now Moffat will leave eventually,( it happened for me when Tennant left ) but until then you are just going to suck it up as the show is not being made just for you.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Man has a point. I tried watching City of Death a while ago, and it's not aged well.
As a kid growing up my Doctors were McCoy and Baker (technically) but thanks to Dyke's fucking around the show it was impossible to follow (he constantly re scheduled it). As a young lad it was repeats of the Pewtree/Baker era on the new Satellite channels that got me hooked.
LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!
I just watched Genesis of the Daleks which is about 4 years before City, and it was glorious.
New Who doesn't compare to the glory days. Dr Who back then simply was, now it's constantly trying to be something or do something or say something. I don't mind having a regeneration crisis (though I did object to Tenannt being flat onhis back foralmost the entirety of the Christmas Invasion!), but i don't want ti lasting the entire fucking season. I want a new doctor with his own personality. I don't wnat the lonely god, I don't want the mysterious dinosaur telepath, i don't want jokes about fezes, I don't want River fucking Song being terribly mysterious, and I don't want confused unresolved metaplot. Bad Wolf = good, Pandorica = bollocks.
Dr Who was always a family show, the difference then was that it didn't need to have a constant soundtrack running through like Tom and JHerry and turned up to 11, nor did it try and sell 5 year old kids toy screwdrivers. New Who has taken a nosedive during Moffat's time because he's fucking shit at telling stories. The best thing he did was Blink and the creation of the Paternoster gang. The whole fiasco on Trenzelore was an utter debacle.
fucthest8
Cool people die horrible, preventable deaths.
Agreed, to every point. Not sure how that translates to new episode being shit though? They dialled back on the music (not enough, but better), closed the door on all that bollocks from last series and Capaldi was good.
Harold Saxon = win
Impossible/Invisible Astronaut = fail.
Impossible/Invisible Astronaut = fail.
I don' think the new apisode was shit. Just the cameo from Matt Smith.
fucthest8
Cool people die horrible, preventable deaths.
Sorry, I perhaps should have pointed out that wasn't aimed solely at you. However, I stick by my earlier point that the cameo served a particular purpose which seemed ok to me.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
What with shit CGI Dobby doctor, some Scissors Sister and magic happy thoughts saving the world?
Crap. Plus Martha Jones, Freema Agyeman played by who can't seem to even cry convincingly.
God I need to stop at this point I'm going to decide that the high point of doctor who was 2 1/2 minutes of Chris Eccles tenure.
Mind you I do have a very very very funny story about Euros Lynn, Russell T Davis and Billie Piper's bottom.
A friend edited "Rose" the 1st ep of the new season, and he pointed out that the shot of her leaping out of bed at the start wasn't at the most flattering camera angle/lens and it should be reshot. Euros and Russell poo poo'd it, and my friend pointed out that seeing as he was the only straight man in the room, they should trust him when he says women don't like to think that they have big bottoms. The shot stayed in, and soon after she saw the cut of the 1st episode Piper went on a crash diet that played merry hell on the wardrobe dept for the rest of season
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