DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
its never the valeyard. I called valeyard when it was actually jon simms master. I called valeyard when it was the War Doctor. Calling valeyard is the Who equivalent of Lupus. Its never lupus
Doctor Who Series 8
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Vintage Paw
Moffat hate aside, did you not think silurian ladies conversation with Clara about clara being a big judge judy was quite good in a 'check your youth priv' kind of way? Sort of 'judge not a book by its cover'?
Moffat hate aside, did you not think silurian ladies conversation with Clara about clara being a big judge judy was quite good in a 'check your youth priv' kind of way? Sort of 'judge not a book by its cover'?
Robot, though, is fucking dire!
That robot costume is...not good.
Don't get me wrong, the old sets and the rubber monsters; that's part of the charm. In all seriousness there's a genuine 'buy in' that you as a viewer have to make, just as with rubber Yoda from ESB. You have to use your imagination, and when you do you are rwarded. Just not in Robot!
New Who, while it certainly has its moments and is on balance a Good Thing, is just more cartoony. Instead of using your imagination ou get the overbearing soundtrack and the throwaway exposition in place of an actual plot. So you get 40 mins of companion/dovtor interplay and then minuites of the Dr suddenly recognising that Billy isn't possessed by the devil, but that it's actually a lost alien soul from Migraxulatulence trying to get home. Break out the sonic.
Give us more like Cold War!
That robot costume is...not good.
Don't get me wrong, the old sets and the rubber monsters; that's part of the charm. In all seriousness there's a genuine 'buy in' that you as a viewer have to make, just as with rubber Yoda from ESB. You have to use your imagination, and when you do you are rwarded. Just not in Robot!
New Who, while it certainly has its moments and is on balance a Good Thing, is just more cartoony. Instead of using your imagination ou get the overbearing soundtrack and the throwaway exposition in place of an actual plot. So you get 40 mins of companion/dovtor interplay and then minuites of the Dr suddenly recognising that Billy isn't possessed by the devil, but that it's actually a lost alien soul from Migraxulatulence trying to get home. Break out the sonic.
Give us more like Cold War!
bubblesmcgrath
Well-Known Member
A bit (lot) off topic but I used to think Rowan Atkinson could have made a great Doctor ...
You've said it now! Of course it's going to be fucking Clara! Arg!
Or tjhe Black Guardian!
PursuedByBears
Go stick your head in a pig
Robot, though, is fucking dire!
That robot costume is...not good.
Don't get me wrong, the old sets and the rubber monsters; that's part of the charm. In all seriousness there's a genuine 'buy in' that you as a viewer have to make, just as with rubber Yoda from ESB. You have to use your imagination, and when you do you are rwarded. Just not in Robot!
Have you seen the Ark in Space? rofl.
Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
Always assumed the Trickster and the Black Guardian were the same being...
I'm not ruling out Lady Olenna in Space
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
I did like that part, actually. There was a lot of good stuff in there.
Epona
Radar 2006-2020, Sonic 2006-2022, Jakey 2007-2024
OMG this makes me feel old. Pertwee was the Doctor when I was a kid, followed by Tom Baker. I was pretty much grown up by the time Davison took over the TARDIS. I do think he is underrated though, he had some great stories. Loved Black Orchid for example.
ruffneck23
front left
A bit (lot) off topic but I used to think Rowan Atkinson could have made a great Doctor ...
He already has been
bubblesmcgrath
Well-Known Member
Lol......they should help kept him in the role... 
It is a pity they didn't carry Sarah Jane on with just the kids. They had been carrying it throughout her illness anyway and could of worked just as well as a kids show.
Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
At the time I hoped they would but now I doubt any of the others would have wanted to hang around even if were on offer.
Any of them done anything since?
Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
Yeah, they seem to be doing alright for themselves in non-kids' tv and theatre 
discobastard
Well-Known Member
Robot, though, is fucking dire!
That robot costume is...not good.
Don't get me wrong, the old sets and the rubber monsters; that's part of the charm. In all seriousness there's a genuine 'buy in' that you as a viewer have to make, just as with rubber Yoda from ESB. You have to use your imagination, and when you do you are rwarded. Just not in Robot!
New Who, while it certainly has its moments and is on balance a Good Thing, is just more cartoony. Instead of using your imagination ou get the overbearing soundtrack and the throwaway exposition in place of an actual plot. So you get 40 mins of companion/dovtor interplay and then minuites of the Dr suddenly recognising that Billy isn't possessed by the devil, but that it's actually a lost alien soul from Migraxulatulence trying to get home. Break out the sonic.
Give us more like Cold War!
That's easy to say, but as a 3 year old watching Robot in an age before the proliferation of technology (both in the home and as an artistic medium) it was utterly captivating, I didn't need to make any kind of 'buy in' at all.
discobastard
Well-Known Member
Robot, though, is fucking dire!
That robot costume is...not good.
Don't get me wrong, the old sets and the rubber monsters; that's part of the charm. In all seriousness there's a genuine 'buy in' that you as a viewer have to make, just as with rubber Yoda from ESB. You have to use your imagination, and when you do you are rwarded. Just not in Robot!
New Who, while it certainly has its moments and is on balance a Good Thing, is just more cartoony. Instead of using your imagination ou get the overbearing soundtrack and the throwaway exposition in place of an actual plot. So you get 40 mins of companion/dovtor interplay and then minuites of the Dr suddenly recognising that Billy isn't possessed by the devil, but that it's actually a lost alien soul from Migraxulatulence trying to get home. Break out the sonic.
Give us more like Cold War!
Ps totally agree with your point about new who.
And I do agree that Robot ain't the best example, but look at Planet of Evil as an example of a story from the early 70s that really was quite scary and beautifully realised in terms of set and monster design.
Haven't seen Planet yet, I'm working through Tom Baker chronoligcally (almost).
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
only six bigots could be bothered to complain?
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Really if you replace the words "gay agenda" in that article with " because I'm a homophobic cunt" it becomes funny
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Always assumed the Trickster and the Black Guardian were the same being...
I'm not ruling out Lady Olenna in Space
I would. Moffat has no respect for the history of the show.
Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Lady Olenna is from Game of Thrones not the Who of oldI'm up for a crossover episode
#thingswearenevergoingtoseeoutsideofterribefanfiction
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I'd have to agree that if they somehow write Missy into being Clara, I will stop watching the bloody thing until Moffat quits. I think he can do a fantastic individual episode, but it always cocks up when he has bigger ideas. In fact, RTD was the opposite. The ultimate showrunner for Who is some unholy bastard child of the two.
joustmaster
offcumdun
a friend described the sexual orientation of a woman lizard / human woman as lizbian
which I quite like.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
you'd have thought that the bigot brigade stopped watching during the Captain Jack era
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
I agree. Moffat is capable of writing some stellar individual episodes, but when you give him a whole show to play with it becomes some grandiose monstrosity that feels more like an exercise in "I'm fucking amazing, I bet you wish you had my brain" rather than anything else. RTD's series arcs felt more subtle (even if they weren't they felt it without Moffat's bombast and Hollywood shiny) and he didn't hit you over the head with the little things that hinted at what was to come (like Saxon posters or Bad Wolf graffiti). Moffat though - that fucking crack had to be zoomed in on, it might as well have had flashing lights around it with a neon arrow pointing at it and a mariachi band off to the side singing about how it's an Important Thing. RTD's stuff tended to hang together a lot more comfortably, whereas Moffat's feels like a big chaotic fractured mess that somehow all comes together at the end through the power of something Moffat didn't tell you at the beginning and it probably doesn't matter anyway because 50% of the time we just reset time and it never happened because space magic. I know RTD had his fair share of head scratching moments, but to me at least it felt less contrived.
I wish I hadn't found that article that speculated Missy is Clara, because now I can't imagine him doing anything other than that. It's exactly the kind of thing he'd do, thinking he's being really clever, tying it all up in its own hermetically sealed loop as he is wont to do, and in the process will end up undermining everything good about Clara (that he hasn't already undermined).
GAH!
2 sleeps till Timelord Tucker Takes On The Daleks!
Thank god they didn't see the episode wher ethe Nestene Consciouness takes over a dildo delivery to Ann Summers!
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