Doctor Who Series 8

[SpookyFrank]

Would they really have locked Missy up without going through her pockets first? What kind of fucking amateurs are we dealing with here?

 

[mauvais]

And why were they even on a plane? Surely an underground bunker would make more sense.

Have you tried telling this to the USAF?

 

[zoooo]

Would they really have locked Missy up without going through her pockets first? What kind of fucking amateurs are we dealing with here?

I was just annoyed they had the two armed guards standing there listening to her say she was about to kill Osgood, watching her put lippy on clearly out of her handcuffs, and letting her kill someone and then themselves, and doing fuck all. Gah.

 

[Chz]

I'm normally first to gag at such things, but I was touched by the nod to Nick Courtney. I think he'd have liked that, soppy as it was.

 

[belboid]

That's probably because they were using the Invasion as a reference point. UNIT's headquarters when the Dr first meets the force (although he'd met the Brig before his promotion) is airborne. (The Invasion was also very closely modelled by Rise of the Cybermen, the parallel universe story with Tenant. Moffat's problem here was that he had nothing left to use from the Troughton tale except St Pauls and UNIT-in-an-aeroplane).

aah, you see, I just got the blatant nods to the Gremlins episode of The Twilight Zone. There was some other film in there too, but I've forgotten what that was now. St Pauls' Dome opening up was great.

Have you tried telling this to the USAF?

when they fly the pres, they tend to be taking him somewhere useful, or at least with a point to it. Where was the flight meant to be going?

 

[belboid]

Oh, and I didnt actually think that Danny's valedictory speech was that bad. Just wholly pointless, considering he was talking to a bunch of mindless automatons.

 

[zoooo]

I got a slightly moist eye when the Doctor saluted wotsit at the end.

 

[krtek a houby]

^^^ This.
Probably the worst series of Dr Who I've ever seen.
... but at least Danny is dead.
How the fuck anyone can compare this to Dr Who of old is beyond me...

It's beyond me as well. Cardboard rubbery sets (and acting) was all well and good back in the day but the new series (faults and all) is a much more superior, nuanced and well rounded beast. I shall always have a place in my heart for "classic Who" but it's a relic from yesteryear.

 

[DotCommunist]

Nobody is comparing it as like for like because they are different shows in terms of budget, capability and so on. But they are the same in terms of general mythos etc, so parralels will be drawn. It's still written for the same audience, the family. Not cantankerous old bastards weeping for the crap baker of thier youth
For them as holding up old who as far better and smarter- I watched them. Especially someone who skipped sylvester mcoys entire run as a 'non starter'. I'm afraid your argument is invalid.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Can't fault a doctor who treats his fans like this:



I'm sure past actors would do the same, but still...aww.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Nobody is comparing it as like for like because they are different shows in terms of budget, capability and so on. But they are the same in terms of general mythos etc, so parralels will be drawn. It's still written for the same audience, the family. Not cantankerous old bastards weeping for the crap baker of thier youth
For them as holding up old who as far better and smarter- I watched them. Especially someone who skipped sylvester mcoys entire run as a 'non starter'. I'm afraid your argument is invalid.

Oh dear!

 

[Bonfirelight]

I'm not really a Dr who fan, but I watch it with the littleun, and Ive even occasionally enjoyed it.
This series though, mostly felt like a mess, full of segments that added nothing to the story, convoluted plots, inconsistent characters and nonsensical resolutions.
The amount of times I was asked "why is so and so doing that?" and realised I actually haven't got a clue was far too many for a kids show.
The writers seem incapable of just telling a story.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Turning the Brigadier into Iron fucking Man really was the lowest ebb of what history will come to call the Moffat Debacle.

poor Peter Capaldi. Awesome doctor while everything around him was shit.

 

[belboid]

Turning the Brigadier into Iron fucking Man really was the lowest ebb of what history will come to call the Moffat Debacle.

It won't

poor Peter Capaldi. Awesome doctor while everything around him was shit.

Well, except for Michele Gomez, Jenna Coleman, half the script, and St. Paul's retractable roof.

 

[Cid]

I've watched every season, with the exception of anything that contained Sylvester McCoy, because he was a non-starter.
As bad as some people might think Matt Smith was, he played a perfect role in the script. The script may not have been very good but he did suit the script, very well. Capaldi, on the other hand, is a much better actor, with, IMHO, a much worse script, and this is the bit that annoys me. I know that (given a better script), Capaldi could take Dr Who to a place it hasn't been since Pertwee... but I guess it's all a matter of opinion...

I think the last episode hammered this in really badly. Capaldi has been great in many ways, and Coleman's acting has responded, Gomez was excellent casting. But the tropes are there. The cliches are rattled out again and again. I quite liked the w3 death thing initially, but then the script just reverted to 'ah, it's the master with an army of cybermen'. What? What the fuck? Why? He's not an officer really, he's tormented. And he can't see Clara's grief. it's oh so tragic. Fuck off.

 

[krtek a houby]

Nick frost as santa is delicious because of how if you were going undercover as santa it would make a good psuedonym. St. Nicholas. Frost. eh? eh?

it'll be shit tho, christmas ones always are

I can see it now; Santa re-unites Clara with Danny

 

[Pseudopsycho]

I can see it now; Santa re-unites Clara with Danny

By killing her:

 

[krtek a houby]

I'm sure Doctor Who has done evil Santas before?

 

[belboid]

I'm sure Doctor Who has done evil Santas before?

Christmas Invasion/Runaway Bride. They weren't the real Santa tho

 

[krtek a houby]

Christmas Invasion/Runaway Bride. They weren't the real Santa tho

If old Nick turns out to be a bad Santa, that would be agreeable on Xmas day. Be nice to see less schmaltz at Xmas and more non-schmaltz.

 

[Wilf]

Oh, and I didnt actually think that Danny's valedictory speech was that bad. Just wholly pointless, considering he was talking to a bunch of mindless automatons.

I always find that quite annoying in science fiction/fantasy - the idea that a 'moral' or central character is imune to the mind control device/ray etc. You just know that whenever they become taken over, breaking free of that control and sacrificing themselves will be the plot resolution.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

What was good this series:

Capaldi as the Doctor
Clara
Some great bits of dialogue


What was rubbish:

Pretty much everything else

 

[Awesome Wells]

Why does the Master have to be written as if she's the Joker?

 

[belboid]

she wasn't

 

[DotCommunist]

The masters mania, which wells refers to as 'like the joker', was laid in with simms second appearance in the role. When he got those special powers and started eating the scenery

 

[SpookyFrank]

I've come to realise that this thread really spoils my enjoyment of the show.

 

[Wilf]

I've come to realise that this thread really spoils my enjoyment of the show.

Must admit, I find it a bit weird discussing any tv prog in detail like this. That's not a dig at anyone or the thread - and I've got a dozen posts on it! It's just that I'm ancient and used to telly programmes being fairly inert, commented upon by little more than the tv review page in the paper. Still feels strange being in a position to know lots of details about the writers, plot devices, screenshots and stuff. Anyway, that's me slowly coming to terms with tinternet .... oldie derail over.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Why couldn't the doctor repair Clara's bracelet? Isn't the whole thing based on Timelord tech?

How did Danny send back the afghan kid? From where?

HOw did he get his emotions back?

Why was the doctor reduced to standing around looking shocked all the time?

Why did nothing remotely threatening actually happen?

 

[belboid]

fuck me, you didn't pay any attention to the programme, did you?

Please dont watch the christmas show

 

[Wilf]

Why couldn't the doctor repair Clara's bracelet? Isn't the whole thing based on Timelord tech?

How did Danny send back the afghan kid? From where?

HOw did he get his emotions back?

Why was the doctor reduced to standing around looking shocked all the time?

Why did nothing remotely threatening actually happen?

Y'see, back in the day, we'd have left Nancy Banks-Smith to say all this.