Doctor Who Series 8

[Lazy Llama]

And The Doctor's been married 4 times, all deceased?

 

[Epona]

I thought for a moment we'd be getting that, but then what was the distress about? (And the Parallel with Clara's lie & the hug to hide your face?)

It was about trust and deception - it was made utterly clear that the Doctor and the Master/Missy were childhood friends, at the end she asked him to trust her and deceived him horribly - Gallifrey is either destroyed or she gave him the wrong co-ordinates. That is what the anger was about. Contrast it with the white lies that he and Clara exchanged at the end of the episode. One lie designed to hurt, and another designed to prevent hurt. It was quite poignant.

 

[Vintage Paw]

So Danny's descendent - the last man alive - where did he come from?

Well, that's the question, isn't it?

Perhaps she's pregnant. Maybe we have more timey-wimey to look forward to. Maybe we're meant to forget Orson ever existed (or never existed...).

 

[Vintage Paw]

It was about trust and deception - it was made utterly clear that the Doctor and the Master/Missy were childhood friends, at the end she asked him to trust her and deceived him horribly - Gallifrey is either destroyed or she gave him the wrong co-ordinates. That is what the anger was about. Contrast it with the white lies that he and Clara exchanged at the end of the episode. It was quite poignant.

He's always wanted his childhood friend back again. He loves the Master. I think he always will. Her deception will always hurt him very deeply.

 

[SpookyFrank]

You can't perma-kill the Master!

He's been killed off loads of times.

 

[Vintage Paw]

He's been killed off loads of times.

There's always been an out though. This is a really obvious out. Hence "you can't perma-kill the Master".

 

[binka]

What do we have for best and weakest of the season?

I'm going monsters from flatland for best, and weakest for the robin hood one. I liked it ut it was a bit shit.

best was the flatland one, worst is the moonegg or london forest. even the bad ones were still enjoyable to watch, you couldn't say that about previous series - such as the disaster with peter kay

 

[DotCommunist]

one thing I liked was how claras doctor-bluff to the cybermen was convincing, because of the best episode in this season, flatland monsters where she plaed doctor for the day as it were. The other reason that episode is win is because it plays with the dimension and time aspect of the tardis. Haven't seen one of them for a while.

 

[Epona]

Also re. The Doctor's anger - I think some of it was anger at himself for still having had a small shred of trust in her despite everything (megalomaniac world domination tendencies, spending a couple of decades shrinking people etc.), if that tiny shred hadn't existed, he would have known it was a lie and not even bothered checking out the co-ordinates - he still had that trust, and we witnessed him shedding any illusions about the friendship they used to share. Hence thumping the console and being upset.

 

[agricola]

best was the flatland one, worst is the moonegg or london forest. even the bad ones were still enjoyable to watch, you couldn't say that about previous series - such as the disaster with peter kay

That episode at least had Kathryn Drysdale in it. 42 is the worst episode that there has ever been.

 

[binka]

That episode at least had Kathryn Drysdale in it. 42 is the worst episode that there has ever been.

i dont have a very good memory so i googled that episode and i vaguely recall it but don't remember thinking it was terrible. what was wrong with it?

 

[Mungy]

I shed a tear at the Brigadier bit

Me too, partly from the setup brigadier wanting a salute, and partly in memory of the actor who played the brigadier. an emotional crossover of who-world and the real world, i thought.

 

[8115]

No, the worst episode ever was the one where people made noises and got thinner. Or fatter.

 

[agricola]

i dont have a very good memory so i googled that episode and i vaguely recall it but don't remember thinking it was terrible. what was wrong with it?

Martha and a random bloke save the day by completing questions from a pub quiz, in order to unlock a series of doors on a starship in the far future, or at least they do until Martha goes off and does something else. Meanwhile, the Tennant Doctor emotes in what appears to be an MRI scanner.

 

[binka]

Martha and a random bloke save the day by completing questions from a pub quiz, in order to unlock a series of doors on a starship in the far future, or at least they do until Martha goes off and does something else. Meanwhile, the Tennant Doctor emotes in what appears to be an MRI scanner.

ok i think i remember it more now but still don't think it was as bad as the peter kay one

 

[spliff]

Some of you Dr.Who freaks may be interested in a forthcoming biography of Malcolm Hulke.
I knew him when I was a child due to my parents involvement with Unity Theatre.
My mum used to type out his scripts for him and we would avidly watch anything by him when it was broadcast.
I don't think it says it on the link but I read somewhere it's due to be published on 31st Jan 2015.
http://www.miwkpublishing.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=64

 

[PursuedByBears]

Well, I thought that was bloody brilliant, much better that I expected. Peter Capaldi can be justly proud of his contribution to Doctor Who, he really IS the Doctor.

Anyone else notice the Chaplet Funeral Home = Dodo Chaplet, companion of the First Doctor?

Loved the painting of the Brigadier, and the Brig Cyberman at the end. Nice touch. Also that the Master was completely let down by his/her allies, just like in every classic Doctor Who Master story EVER.

You can't perma-kill the Master!

Yup. How many times has he/she died now?

i think it was the least objectionable finale in new who but the story was still a load of old balls. there was so much that didn't make any sense. why would the cybermen have to manually activate the inhibitor? have it turned on by default ffs.

Danny didn't get the chance to fill in his Delete All Emotions paperwork in the Nethersphere so was upgraded too soon.

Yep, he opened the door of the TARDIS and there was nothing there. I thought that was fairly clear. He was telling Clara a white lie so that she could get on with her life. IMO - I don't think there's anything more to be read into that.

Brilliant snatching-away of hope for the Doctor there. Gallifrey must be out there somewhere as the Master escaped from it, but the thing about space is, it's really big...

What do we have for best and weakest of the season?

I'm going monsters from flatland for best, and weakest for the robin hood one. I liked it ut it was a bit shit.

Completely agree with this post. Also the Caretaker episode with the RUBBISH monster and Danny's amazing ninja jumping skillz.

So Danny's descendent - the last man alive - where did he come from?

Pregnant Clara?

And The Doctor's been married 4 times, all deceased?

OK, I think this would be 1) Susan's grandmother; 2) Cameca from The Aztecs (First Doctor); 3) River Song; 4) we haven't met him/her yet but the Doctor has.

 

[CNT36]

Lizzie 1

 

[PursuedByBears]

Lizzie 1

Oh yes. So that's four.

 

[redsquirrel]

ma was annoyed that the bloke from goodness gracious me died first because she was hoping for lols. But it was in tone a very serious episode. Suppose thats how season finishes go.

What do we have for best and weakest of the season?

I'm going monsters from flatland for best, and weakest for the robin hood one. I liked it ut it was a bit shit.

The Robin Hood one was abysmal. In addition to Flatland, the Mummy/Orient Express and "Listen" were good too.

The rest poor to mediocre. The bringing kid back at the end of finale was vomit inducing

 

[Callum91]

When the Dr traveled to where Gallifrey was supposed to be...did anyone else get the impression that what Missy meant was that the Dr/TARDIS ARE Gallifrey? Kinda... ''You are all that's left.'' Then the Dr realised that, got abit angry and proceeded to beat the shit out of the TARDIS console. Or is that just me?

Still... rather a shit episode in a series of meh. Missy was fucking fantastic, I'd love the Beeb to commission a spin off just for her! The Dalek one and the 2D monster episode were the best of the series, the rest rather forgettable. *sigh*

 

[emanymton]

I am the only person who really locked the Robin Hood one? Apart from the shooting an arrow at the ship at the end I thought it was great. Really silly but great fun.

 

[Chz]

There were some great episodes, like the Flat Land one (whatever it was called). How about sustaining an idea over 4 episodes, say, in a sort of serial? You know, with plot development, and threats that aren't overcome at the end of each episode?

And yet the Flatland one would never hold up to 4 episodes. It was a perfect little parcel, all on its own.
(And quite probably one of the best stories they've had in ages. How often does the BBC's CGI department get to go nuts and have it not look pants?)

 

[danny la rouge]

I am the only person who really locked the Robin Hood one?

Did you throw away the key?

 

[CNT36]

Perhaps the coordinates were correct. Missy didn't day it was in our universe/dimension just the same location

 

[DotCommunist]

I am the only person who really locked the Robin Hood one? Apart from the shooting an arrow at the ship at the end I thought it was great. Really silly but great fun.

I enjoyed it but it was very silly. Hopefully they'll add the beheding back in for the DVD. Not that a single beheading will make it any better

 

[SpookyFrank]

The bringing kid back at the end of finale was vomit inducing

Didn't make any sense. The kid's mind had been uploaded to the nethersphere, but his body was all shot up by soldier boy. How therefore did he just stroll back into the mortal world, body and all?

Didn't like the implication that it's OK to roll up in someone else's country and shoot small children so long as you feel bad about it afterwards.

 

[danny la rouge]

So Danny's descendent - the last man alive - where did he come from?

Clara is already pregnant with his baby, and that's why she doesn't want to be getting into galactic scrapes any more?

 

[SpookyFrank]

I am the only person who really locked the Robin Hood one? Apart from the shooting an arrow at the ship at the end I thought it was great. Really silly but great fun.

Wasn't even enjoyably shit. The acting was horrid, the Doctor blowing up straw targets just by pointing the sonic screwdriver at them was incredibly lazy and the magic golden arrow ending was too stupid for words.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Clara is already pregnant with his baby, and that's why she doesn't want to be getting into galactic scrapes any more?

But they're not married