I don’t care about the 80s or 70s. Doctor Who was good in the Eccleston, Tennant and Smith years. Then it turned into constant explosions and shouting and who cares about the characters or any kind of internal consistency. I don’t want it to go back to the 70s or 80s, just the period from about 2005-2011.
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Get rid of white men and straight-cis women and get back to the Daleks and cyberenbies like in the good old days.
PursuedByBears
Go stick your head in a pig
Exactly. Lots of old Doctor Who was shit. However when it was revived it was good. Now it's appalling. My teenage daughter is a big fan of Eccleston, Tennant, Smith and Capaldi, she thinks the Jodie Whittaker episodes are rubbish and she hasn't even watched the new fella, completely uninterested.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
There was vastly less of the running and shouting in this last series. The doc hardly moves at all in Boom, likewise 73 Yards was far more based on things moving very slowly. The whole point of the two part finale was about Ruby and motherhood and shit, well performed, even if not that well written.
And, let's be honest, internal consistency has never been that big a thing in the programme. Even at its best - Blink is fucking stupid, actually, but widely seen as the best New Who by miles.
And, let's be honest, internal consistency has never been that big a thing in the programme. Even at its best - Blink is fucking stupid, actually, but widely seen as the best New Who by miles.
krtek a houby
Kick me again Jesus
The show is still fantastic, honestly don't get what the moaners are wailing about.
krtek a houby
Kick me again Jesus
No idea what you're on about.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
It's still very good, not fantastic. With my fair and reasonable head on, there are some issues that are undeniable.
The relentless churn of lead actors and "pass the baton" show runners hasn't helped. I loved Jodie but she was lumbered with some pretty weak stories, and Flux ended with mass genocide as its conclusion. Ncuti began with farting babies and ended with a reset button ending.
It's good. But not good enough.
krtek a houby
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Fair enough, the space babies was a bad idea and, as mentioned before, have not seen the JW era so can't comment on it.
There is another clip on YouTube. It just looks like a typical Moffat Christmas with more money thrown at it. A couple of his Christmas stories were ok. I quite liked the one with Father Christmas and the dreams. I don't mind the one with the first doctor either. Isn't that stand in companion from the thing with the guy wanking in a flowerpot that the bird creatures liked?
krtek a houby
Kick me again Jesus
It's Nicola Coughlan from Bridgerton and Derry Girls. She's great.
If you’ve not seen the JW era, no wonder you don’t know what the haters of that era are complaining about.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I can't decide if the new one is worse, but it's obviously very bad.
krtek a houby
Kick me again Jesus
Um, obviously yes - this has been hashed out here before. Over her era, I heard that some people were offended by changes to lore, some by a woman in the role, some by its "wokeness" and most importantly - the writing.
I saw the first episode and thoroughly enjoyed it. I'll get back to you when I see the rest. If it's as good as Ncuti Gatwa, I'll be satisfied.
A colorised version of the War Games is to air on the 23rd December. A Christmas treat.
I’d forgotten just how camp the War Chief & War Lord were.
Chopping 10x 25 mins into one 90 min episode can’t have been easy. But this actually turned out better than I was expecting. Better than The Daleks anyway.
Quite a few clunky moments of editing aside it mostly worked.
Must have been reasons to chose scenes where characters did the reminder what happened last week dialogue over the scenes of actual events. It’d actually be interesting to dog out the old DVDs and compare.
And too many runs around the capture-escape-recapture loop in quick succession.
But I really didn’t like the extra new CG stuff -
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That all seemed out of place.
Chopping 10x 25 mins into one 90 min episode can’t have been easy. But this actually turned out better than I was expecting. Better than The Daleks anyway.
Quite a few clunky moments of editing aside it mostly worked.
Must have been reasons to chose scenes where characters did the reminder what happened last week dialogue over the scenes of actual events. It’d actually be interesting to dog out the old DVDs and compare.
And too many runs around the capture-escape-recapture loop in quick succession.
But I really didn’t like the extra new CG stuff -
spinning tardis in space & the uncanny valley Pertwee. Or inserting the modern era Doctors.
That all seemed out of place.
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danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
I loved it. It was fun. It made absolutely no sense of course, because huge chunks of stuff were removed, and so characters were spinning into courses of action they had no motivation for. But that’s fine.
The New Who stuff was sometimes overdone. (Yes, we know. Gallifray. Big dome.) But most of it was amusing. And I loved the Tardis dial spinning between 1970 and 1980. That was very good.
The original still exists. It’s quite safe. I have the DVDs. It’s still on the iPlayer.
This is a fun Christmas gift. For us to smile about.
The New Who stuff was sometimes overdone. (Yes, we know. Gallifray. Big dome.) But most of it was amusing. And I loved the Tardis dial spinning between 1970 and 1980. That was very good.
The original still exists. It’s quite safe. I have the DVDs. It’s still on the iPlayer.
This is a fun Christmas gift. For us to smile about.
I thought the colourisation was great. As above the added extras didn't really work for me. I found the way it was edited was very clunky and it felt a bit like a fan made trailer at times. It got better towards the end with the Time Lords but the way the main War Games story was condensed was painful in places. Good effort though.
The best bit.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Space babies was a good idea wasted.
I would have liked to have seen giant robots controlled by augmented babies. The desires of an abandoned infant. What a cool reveal that would have been. The evil intentions were just that of a scared little baby that doesn't understand the world they are in.
Nine Bob Note
Self-Isolating before it was fashionable
Have never seen TWG, so the idea of a cut-down version sounds perfect. Might be hungover xmas morning viewing
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Me neither. I was put off a bit by the ten partedness of it. Historically longer 6 and 8 parters are a bit of a snoozeathon.Have never seen TWG, so the idea of a cut-down version sounds perfect. Might be hungover xmas morning viewing
I've heard mixed reviews though. I definitely didn't enjoy new music on the colour dalek recut.
Shorter sounds good but has it's heart been cut out? Will it make sense? I've not seen it yet so I can't grumble yet, but I would have preferred just cutting the fat rather than getting it to 'movie' length. . . I'm also anti new music and fx.
krtek a houby
Kick me again Jesus
Now I really want to watch it, with the retcon of a certain character
Doctor Who fans think The War Games re-edit just confirmed an old fan theory
The War Chief vainglorious?
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danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
Sorry, but that was a typical Moffatt disjointed mess that thinks it’s cleverer than it is.
But the weird feeling from the last season has at least gone.
But the weird feeling from the last season has at least gone.
PursuedByBears
Go stick your head in a pig
Think I'll give it a miss. Again.
lazythursday
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Confused mess. Entertaining in the middle. Left me feeling a bit queasy.
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