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Do you consider yourself an audiophile?

Are you an audiophile?

  • Yes

    Votes: 31 13.5%

  • No

    Votes: 83 36.1%

  • Audiophiles are deluded bullshitters

    Votes: 116 50.4%
  • Total voters
    230
beesonthewhatnow said:
Anyhoo, lets have some more bonkers audiofool products:

BEDINI - QUADRI-BEAM ULTRA CLARIFIER

Claims to "lower the noise floor" of a CD or DVD, thus "allowing more information to be retrieved from the disk". It also "significantly reduces high frequency glare and increases the overall retrieval of information, enhancing dynamic range. Detail and resolution are improved dramatically. When used on video, the Quadri-Beam creates a picture that is brighter, sharper, crisper and cleaner"

Hmmmmmm :D
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It is worth buying for the name alone :cool:
 
the original sound, no
the original signal, yes, seeing as the equipment used to capture it cannot capture those frequencies.
 
And what about the value of each sample - the real-world value has to be rounded up or down to the nearest binary value, doesn't it? Maths can't recreate that surely.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
This is where you have to either understand the maths, or just accept it works. But it does, honest :)
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If the resolution of the sample value doesn't matter, then why do CDs use a 16 bit depth? That doesn't make any sense at all. You can't sample at a 2 bit depth and expect the maths to magic it back into the original signal.
 
You're confusing bit depth with sampling frequency. Bit depth determines the dynamic range available for the signal, sample rate determines the highest frequency.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
You're confusing bit depth with sampling frequency. Bit depth determines the dynamic range available for the signal, sample rate determines the highest frequency.
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Yes, I realise that. I'm not talking about sampling frequency. I'm saying that the resolution of the bit depth/dynamic range has an effect on the accuracy of the recorded signal. So this is another reason that it's technically incorrect to say that the signal you are recording can be reproduced perfectly by digital means.
 
teuchter said:
Yes, I realise that. I'm not talking about sampling frequency. I'm saying that the resolution of the bit depth/dynamic range has an effect on the accuracy of the recorded signal. So this is another reason that it's technically incorrect to say that the signal you are recording can be reproduced perfectly by digital means.
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OK. Let's just say that for pretty much anything we care to define as music the CD specifications are capable of reproducing it perfectly :)
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
Anyhoo, lets have some more bonkers audiofool products:

BEDINI - QUADRI-BEAM ULTRA CLARIFIER

Claims to "lower the noise floor" of a CD or DVD, thus "allowing more information to be retrieved from the disk". It also "significantly reduces high frequency glare and increases the overall retrieval of information, enhancing dynamic range. Detail and resolution are improved dramatically. When used on video, the Quadri-Beam creates a picture that is brighter, sharper, crisper and cleaner"

Hmmmmmm :D
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more
links
the "also bought" links on that page showed me this:
NORDOST - ANTI STATIC SPRAY - ECO-3
"Simply spray ECO-3 on a cloth and wipe down your cables, components, even the print side of CDs, SACDs, DVDs, Blu-Ray, any 5" polycarbonate disc for an instant sonic upgrade! ECO-3 removes a layer of sonic grunge and haze, revealing a more natural, relaxed and airy soundstage. We highly recommend ECO-3 for use in the winter, when static electricity builds up, but ECO-3 also has a substantial effect during the summer months when A/C is pulling moisture out of the air! "

I want to meet Harry Pearson from The Absolute Sound to express my gratitude to him.
 
http://www.musicdirect.com/product/88400

A USB cable. that's "directional". That costs over $100 :D

"Carbon features 5% silver plated Long Grain Copper solid-core conductors. These heavily plated conductors are outstanding at conveying the subtlest detail, unraveling intricate and complex performances. Dynamic shading is outstanding, Carbon's ability to convey micro-dynamics fleshes out the performance allowing it to reveal those subtle changes in volume that make a performance seem more real. Carbon is a directional cable, AQ listens to every primary signal conductor used in Carbon to determine proper conductor orientation, this simple test yields a surprising improvement to sonic performance"
 
http://www.musicdirect.com/product/74581

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These appear to be two lumps of wood, wrapped in copper tape, with a couple of spade connectors attached.

Apparently they "prevent ultra-high frequency noise and RFI from getting into your speakers. When Reference HDLs are connected across the binding posts, they eliminate unwanted noise from the signal path, allowing the pure music signal to pass through unaffected"

As a result "The music become incredibly natural sounding. Electronic glare disappears, removing harshness and haze. The sound stage opens up hugely becoming more sharply focused, and more transparent. Harmonics within the music become cleaner, clearer and dynamic range is unleashed, with greater speed and sharper, clearer transients"

A snip at $725 :D
 
wemakeyousoundb said:
need
more
links
the "also bought" links on that page showed me this:
NORDOST - ANTI STATIC SPRAY - ECO-3
"Simply spray ECO-3 on a cloth and wipe down your cables, components, even the print side of CDs, SACDs, DVDs, Blu-Ray, any 5" polycarbonate disc for an instant sonic upgrade! ECO-3 removes a layer of sonic grunge and haze, revealing a more natural, relaxed and airy soundstage. We highly recommend ECO-3 for use in the winter, when static electricity builds up, but ECO-3 also has a substantial effect during the summer months when A/C is pulling moisture out of the air! "

I want to meet Harry Pearson from The Absolute Sound to express my gratitude to him.
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Thats stuffs $41 a go :eek:!! I wonder how different it is from windowlene? What is sonic grunge and haze anyway?
 
Has anyone ever taken these guys to court? They must know they are selling snake oil and that their mumbo jumbo means nothing. It is in fact a straight up con. Surely they cannot be allowed to trade without some kind of test or something? Surely they are breaching the trade descriptions act?
 
http://www.walkeraudio.com/velocitor.htm

Holy crap. Reading this they say "In the Velocitor, we incorporate nothing in the power path to alter the power supplied. There is no on/off switch, L.E.D.s, fuses, surge suppressors, transformers, chokes, filters, bells, or whistles. Just your music - at its best"

(my bold)

So in other words, it's just a 6 way power block. In wood. For Three and a half thousand dollars.
 
And fugly, to boot.

I automatically suspect anyone seriously considering buying stuff on those websites of having shite taste in music, tbh. :D
 
ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
Has anyone ever taken these guys to court? They must know they are selling snake oil and that their mumbo jumbo means nothing. It is in fact a straight up con. Surely they cannot be allowed to trade without some kind of test or something? Surely they are breaching the trade descriptions act?
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If you can get any printed literature out of them, report them to the ASA. One supplier got done the other year - see post 130
 
The music was recorded with regular copper cables, you morons. The professionals don't use this shit, why should you? not enough :facepalm: in the world.
 
Crispy said:
The music was recorded with regular copper cables, you morons. The professionals don't use this shit, why should you? not enough :facepalm: in the world.
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The bit I don't understand is that all the "audiophile" kit could be improved by using proper balanced XLR cables, thus genuinely rejecting any interference they may pick up. In my day job we often run multiple mic lines for a hundred meters or more, often right next to 125A 3 phase power cables, all without a single bit of hum or buzz.

Yet they continue to use unbalanced RCA connections...
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
The bit I don't understand is that all the "audiophile" kit could be improved by using proper balanced XLR cables, thus genuinely rejecting any interference they may pick up. In my day job we often run multiple mic lines for a hundred meters or more, often right next to 125A 3 phase power cables, all without a single bit of hum or buzz.

Yet they continue to use unbalanced RCA connections...
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Ah I think this was one of my favorate things on the thread many many pages ago. Were they not selling a 'sudo' balanced phono lead. Why not 'actually' balanced?
 
ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
Ah I think this was one of my favorate things on the thread many many pages ago. Were they not selling a 'sudo' balanced phono lead. Why not 'actually' balanced?
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I've lost the link, but I once found a site selling phono adapters to put on either end of an XLR cable, so that users "could enjoy the full benefits of a balanced cable" :facepalm:
 
I like that the Velocitor (that 6 way for $3500) gives you "Faster Power" like it's somehow speeding up the flow of electrons supplied by the mains :D

Has the 13amp fuse been linked to in this thread or was that in a different one? that's one of my favourites. Theres some on the music direct site bees has been linking to, but they are around $40 (which is stupid expensive for a fuse) but I'm sure there was one for much more than that.

Like Cripsy said, not enough:facepalm: in the world
 
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