dj turntable help and Q&A

[evildacat]

It will depend on what you want to use them for.

Mainly mixing but will want to try some scratching also, there will be the occasional time when I just want to play the few vinyl albums I have. So the best all round needle and what ever else you think I should change or upgrade.

Another question noticed most of the older players have an earthing cable, I'm assuming that's exactly what it's for to earth and needs to be used when the player gas power going to it ? Never used a turntable before nor any audio equipment that has been that old to require a separate earthing cable .

 

[evildacat]

LOL -

Technics SL-1200GAE Limited Edition turntable - 0377 of 1200 £4,500 !

 

[evildacat]

Also noticed some 1200 mk3's coming up for sale, are these just as good as the mk2's? Better or worse and why if either apart from not being as old. They keep getting listed as 'rare' but don't seem to be selling any dearer then the mk2's

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

The mk3 has no "click" at the zero % pitch mark. That's it.

 

[lefteri]

The mk3 has no "click" at the zero % pitch mark. That's it.

it has a digital pitch fader and you can reset the zero point if it wanders from the centre of the fader - I'm not sure if being digital makes the pitch any more accurate. FWIW on one of my MK3s the zero point has wandered to where -2 should be and it won't reset so probably needs replacing

 

[evildacat]

it has a digital pitch fader and you can reset the zero point if it wanders from the centre of the fader - I'm not sure if being digital makes the pitch any more accurate. FWIW on one of my MK3s the zero point has wandered to where -2 should be and it won't reset so probably needs replacing

So it's basically just something that will most likely be a part that can go wrong more often requiring replacing or professional service more often or was yours the exception do you think ?

 

[evildacat]

The mk3 has no "click" at the zero % pitch mark. That's it.

Noticed on a few listings they no longer do the 'click' replacement part so have to get the mk5 part which doesn't have that tiny feature on it.

 

[evildacat]

Looks like a company in California has decided that buying up old technics 1200/1210 putting a new skin on them and those LEDs that go under the plattern and I hope giving them a service means they can charge £1400-2200 for a pair then add £200ish for delivery then what ever you will get taxed. Insane and they look hideous have a look there are ten plus listings on eBay.

 

[rutabowa]

Another question noticed most of the older players have an earthing cable, I'm assuming that's exactly what it's for to earth and needs to be used when the player gas power going to it ? Never used a turntable before nor any audio equipment that has been that old to require a separate earthing cable .

I don't think it is to do with the equipment being old, it is to do with the fact that it is more likely to be used as part of a large pro set up where there needs to be lots of power sources and so earthing is more of a pressing issue than at home where you just have a record playr and an amp plugged into the wall.

 

[evildacat]

I don't think it is to do with the equipment being old, it is to do with the fact that it is more likely to be used as part of a large pro set up where there needs to be lots of power sources and so earthing is more of a pressing issue than at home where you just have a record playr and an amp plugged into the wall.

So with a home set up what do you do with this cable ? I noticed if they have been serviced recently they put it as an internaly sourced connection if asked.

 

[lefteri]

So with a home set up what do you do with this cable ? I noticed if they have been serviced recently they put it as an internaly sourced connection if asked.

you attach it to the earth post on your mixer, every mixer with phono inputs has an earth connection on the back

 

[evildacat]

you attach it to the earth post on your mixer, every mixer with phono inputs has an earth connection on the back

Thank you .

 

[Athos]

So with a home set up what do you do with this cable ? I noticed if they have been serviced recently they put it as an internaly sourced connection if asked.

You will use it. Else, if you're connecting it to something else that's powered, you're likely to get ground hum. Your mixer/pre-amp/amp should have a post to connect to m

 

[evildacat]

Which online site do you think is best for vinyl? Don't have the luxury of having a shop with a decent range of dance music on vinyl around here.

 

[Athos]

Discogs.

 

[lefteri]

depends on genre but juno has a large catalogue and covers quite a lot of bases

and discogs of course for used

 

[Beats & Pieces]

Which online site do you think is best for vinyl? Don't have the luxury of having a shop with a decent range of dance music on vinyl around here.

To be honest I would very much advocate getting out there and exploring the shops to see what is available. Once you have your turntables you can scour the 2nd hand stores to find all the stuff you need - often far cheaper than the ridiculously over-priced vinyl that we see now. You also get to discover lots of stuff that you don't know about yet - you have a world of adventure and exploration ahead of you.

 

[evildacat]

To be honest I would very much advocate getting out there and exploring the shops to see what is available. Once you have your turntables you can scour the 2nd hand stores to find all the stuff you need - often far cheaper than the ridiculously over-priced vinyl that we see now. You also get to discover lots of stuff that you don't know about yet - you have a world of adventure and exploration ahead of you.

Not that it matter now you've been banned but I don't live in London or Manchester or a big city, we have a single record store which sells vinyl and they have a small to non existent dance selection. I know the owner who says he has some in storage and he will get it out of storage one day but that time has yet to arrive.
The closest city to me that has a number of record shops worth visiting is Nottingham and that's a 40 plus mile drive.

 

[evildacat]

depends on genre but juno has a large catalogue and covers quite a lot of bases

and discogs of course for used

Thanks both of you will have a good look round tonight on them, they both 2nd hand stores or just discogs?
Just had a thought I buy a large number of cd's on music magpie is that any good for vinyl in terms of dance music selection?

 

[evildacat]

Hahaha musicmagpie has just 1 used dance vinyl in the online store!

 

[evildacat]

Don't suppose anyone has a copy of Bjarki - I Wanna Go Bang on vinyl they wanna sell do they?

 

[moody]

Not that it matter now you've been banned but I don't live in London or Manchester or a big city, we have a single record store which sells vinyl and they have a small to non existent dance selection. I know the owner who says he has some in storage and he will get it out of storage one day but that time has yet to arrive.
The closest city to me that has a number of record shops worth visiting is Nottingham and that's a 40 plus mile drive.

I live 50 miles from london. My friends & I used to hit the stores in the city once in a while. Its definitely worth checking the well know stores such as phonica or tape & record exchange, for example. Nothing beats the interaction with the staff there, some of the best tunes I've had are ones that have been handed to me to check out by staff after a chat.

 

[rutabowa]

tbh i'd find it hard to not just do youtube and discogs if I was buying tunes to dj now. + don't get stuck on looking for one specific "killer tune" and end up paying £50 for it, at least until you built up a collection anyway, there are tons of awesome records in every genre that are real cheap second hand, you might as well be flexible and get more records.

 

[moody]

humans are better than search engines.

 

[rutabowa]

Humans on specialist music forums are very often better than humans who work in record shops ha

 

[rutabowa]

another good alternative to going in a physical shop (which I agree is great) and discussing on forums (such as this one) is signing up to a mailing list of a record shop, a load of them are really good at recommending the latest things and I've found some good stuff that way. The Kristina Records mailing list is worthwhile; Norman Records; depends on what genre your after of course but have a look around and you'll probably find a shop/distro specialising in it, whether they have a physical outlet or not. And that way you're also supporting independent guys (tho a lot of shops are also on discogs anyway).

You will notice buying mail order that postage is a killer these days tho...

 

[evildacat]

The Reloops rp7000 are very nearly as good so the Technics, for a lot less.

Edited for autocorrect!

Thanks for the recommendation I managed to get a pair of 8 month old 7000 with a djm400 mixer and a very good pair of needles for 650. A good - excellent condition 1200 is almost at 500 now ridiculous and I bought 2 pioneer cdj2000nxs's !

 

[Athos]

Cool. Interested to know what you make of them.

 

[evildacat]

Cool. Interested to know what you make of them.

Should get them end of next week so will let you know once I have managed to have a play around with them. Though I have nothing to compare them to.
I know that Reloop decided to move in on technics when they left trying to fill the 1200/1210 void and mostly very good reviews on them also.

 

[evildacat]

I live 50 miles from london. My friends & I used to hit the stores in the city once in a while. Its definitely worth checking the well know stores such as phonica or tape & record exchange, for example. Nothing beats the interaction with the staff there, some of the best tunes I've had are ones that have been handed to me to check out by staff after a chat.

Off to see a mate in March who is in London, decided to put aside a decent amount of cash for the next couple of paydays and take your and others advice to go to the record shops there.
Can you recommend which shops to go to and where abouts ( Underground stops and streets they are on ) they are ( like the phonica or tape & record exchange are ) please, I remember someone telling me there are a couple of good record shops more or less on the same road but have forgotten their names and the location.

Also any places worth looking round the same area to look at for second hand cheap records also? Will be in London for the weekend but intending to go down Friday and spend most of Friday going round the record shops as its not fair to drag my mate round who has no interest in them really plus with him and his misses being teachers should work out nicely if I spend the day shopping then meet them for drinks and stuff when they have finished work. Also with it being a Friday will be able to get anything new out also as i'm assuming new releases in dance music are on this day also?