Plumdaff
joy in people
I disagree. Not least as I work in the bit that disproportionately sections black people to a massive degree.
Diane Abbott suspended as Labour MP.
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
tbf, the bit of medicine that sections people is the bit that overlaps with policing.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
I didn’t think about MH. Yes, fair - although clearly still an order of magnitude less than for policing.
Plumdaff
joy in people
Tbf it's not like there aren't massive structural inequalities in the other bits.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Sure.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Speaking as someone with family connections to both of those groups, it's really not. It's just well meaning but crap academic left politics.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
I can only claim one of two, but when academic left politics looks like a binfire it’s difficult to care whether it is well meaning.
hash tag
Books, not bombs
Diane Abbott to return to the fold?
BBC News - Angela Rayner wants to see Diane Abbott back as Labour MP
BBC News - Angela Rayner wants to see Diane Abbott back as Labour MP
Angela Rayner wants to see Diane Abbott back as Labour MP
Labour suspended Diane Abbott for saying Irish, Jewish, and Traveller people do not face racism "all their lives".
www.bbc.co.uk
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Your not bothered by the fact you your argument as presented could be co-opted to support a racist position?
I don't necessarily think you are wrong but that does not sit right with me at all.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I have zero respect for Rayner anymore, not for this as she should be readmitted. But because she really has sold her soulDiane Abbott to return to the fold?
BBC News - Angela Rayner wants to see Diane Abbott back as Labour MP
Angela Rayner wants to see Diane Abbott back as Labour MP
Labour suspended Diane Abbott for saying Irish, Jewish, and Traveller people do not face racism "all their lives".www.bbc.co.uk
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Genuine question. If cultural awareness isn't the whole of the issue, what is the rest of it made of?
Plumdaff
joy in people
Genuine question, how do you improve cultural awareness in a non diverse workforce?
Without material changes to our workforce, no matter how much training we get locally about cultural sensitivity, I know no one in my service has lived experience of what it's like to be, for example, a young Yemeni Welsh man in the Southern arc of my city and we know from discussions that despite documented high rates of mental distress virtually no one from that community is referred into our services, and we don't even have a shared understanding of mental ill health with many members of that community. Do you think that despite cultural awareness training like you wouldn't believe we are serving the Yemeni Welsh community effectively? Is this leading to suffering and inequality that could be avoided? Does our almost entirely white service appear legitimate and safe to many people who might need it? Does a kid going to school in the south of my city envisage a career in mental health / psychology in their future?
I think it's obvious why having a more diverse workforce is desirable in those circumstances
and let's not complicate the issue by adding in class, although they obviously overlap.
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Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Gary Younge hits the spot in the Guardian: In Britain's degraded politics, fighting racism has become a cynical game | Gary Younge
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Or choose not to. I think half the twats know this full well, but it’s just good grifting anyway.
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Books, not bombs
from a tory MP " I will defend her dignity as a person every day of the week".
As mentioned on QT last night, we must not forget Diane Abbott is a huan being.
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As mentioned on QT last night, we must not forget Diane Abbott is a huan being.
Diane Abbott remarks ‘clearly racist and completely wrong’, says Tory Marcus Fysh | The New Blackmore Vale Magazine | In Print & Online
A SOMERSET MP has condemned a Tory donor’s alleged comments about Diane Abbott as “clearly racist and clearly completely wrong”. Marcus Fysh (Con, Yeovil) was responding to remarks made by […]
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Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
She should tell them to go fuck themselves and stand as an Indie. I bet she'd win.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Corbyn and Abbott holding the balance of power in a hung parliament? We can but dream a little.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh after this week she'd wipe the floor with shammer's shit candidate
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
If you dream of the Tories retaining sufficient seats for that to happen you should go easy on the cheese.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh this isn't 1997, shammer isn't blair. things are rather different. while it's entirely possible that the labour party will romp home, it's also feasible for the labour party to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. we've already seen there is considerable discontent among labour voters with eg shammer's line on gaza. as time goes by it is likely that his 'israel has the right' will prove to be a greater blunder even than it appears at the moment. as we have discussed at length, he has gone back on pretty much every position he has taken. he is in many ways a weaker leader than jeremy corbyn, being as he cannot really be said to stand for anything except business and the desire for power. the tory party may be an abject body of venal wankers, but they're likely to see many of their voters return to them - the real questions are how many labour voters really want five years of shammer, and how many tories think they deserve a period in opposition. all that is clear is that predictions made this far away from an election on who's going to win and what that margin might look like will be found wanting when the results come in.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
A couple of months out, everyone was predicting that May would romp home in 2017. She expected a big majority, ended up having to throw cash at the DUP loons to cobble something together.
It's not a prediction as such from me that there could be a hung parliament. It's more a hope. I don't want Starmer to have a clear majority. He does more damage if he has one. A weak, unstable Labour govt that has to actually listen to its backbenchers and those from other parties is the best of a very, very bad set of possible options from this year's election.
It's not a prediction as such from me that there could be a hung parliament. It's more a hope. I don't want Starmer to have a clear majority. He does more damage if he has one. A weak, unstable Labour govt that has to actually listen to its backbenchers and those from other parties is the best of a very, very bad set of possible options from this year's election.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
If I were her (at 70) I'd only stand down if they gave me a peerage first...
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Abbot, Anderson, Corbyn and Galloway holding the balance of power.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Can't see it as all that would happen is seeking Tory etc votes which make any policy likely more rightwing...
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