David Icke lecture @ Wembley Arena, October 2012

[ViolentPanda]

SS

I suspect that faux pas is going for the "your sentence implies states and territories", therefore you're making it up, therefore everything you've written is invalid" ploy, rather than subconsciously wanting to be a member of the SS, to be fair.

 

[Wilf]

How can I be 'caught out' if I've never claimed to know anything about it in the first place? Don't flatter yourselves. So I talk about whether the claim that the moon is a hologram and the claim that it has bases on it is in fact a contradiction or not, and then the next thing you know I'm being hounded about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion! ROFL!

The elephant in your room is anything but holographic.

 

[belboid]

How can I be 'caught out' if I've never claimed to know anything about it in the first place? Don't flatter yourselves. So I talk about whether the claim that the moon is a hologram and the claim that it has bases on it is in fact a contradiction or not, and then the next thing you know I'm being hounded about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion! ROFL!

you skipped the bit about you defending his use of the Elders

 

[Meltingpot]

You're a BNP voter aren't you?

Lib Dem last two elections. I'll probably spoil my vote next time unless the Greens are standing (or maybe Mebyon Kernow as I live in Cornwall).

 

[Wilf]

dp

 

[ViolentPanda]

How can I be 'caught out' if I've never claimed to know anything about it in the first place? Don't flatter yourselves. So I talk about whether the claim that the moon is a hologram and the claim that it has bases on it is in fact a contradiction or not, and then the next thing you know I'm being hounded about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion! ROFL!

Jesus, you're even nicking my phraseology!! Is nothing sacred?

 

[butchersapron]

How can I be 'caught out' if I've never claimed to know anything about it in the first place? Don't flatter yourselves. So I talk about whether the claim that the moon is a hologram and the claim that it has bases on it is in fact a contradiction or not, and then the next thing you know I'm being hounded about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion! ROFL!

You missed out the conncting dots between the anti-semitic content of Icke's claims, his use of the protocols and the contradiction this entails with the claim of him and his theories not being anti-semitic. You wanted to talk about contradictions right? How you'd be surprised if his theories contained any at all?

 

[TruXta]

How can I be 'caught out' if I've never claimed to know anything about it in the first place? Don't flatter yourselves. So I talk about whether the claim that the moon is a hologram and the claim that it has bases on it is in fact a contradiction or not, and then the next thing you know I'm being hounded about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion! ROFL!

A claim which has already been shown to be a contradiction in terms, which is blatantly obvious to anyone who knows what a fucking hologram is.

 

[Blagsta]

Lib Dem last two elections. I'll probably spoil my vote next time.

You have voted BNP in the past haven't you?

 

[faux pas]

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Waffen SS?

lol!

 

[stethoscope]

How can I be 'caught out' if I've never claimed to know anything about it in the first place? Don't flatter yourselves. So I talk about whether the claim that the moon is a hologram and the claim that it has bases on it is in fact a contradiction or not, and then the next thing you know I'm being hounded about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion! ROFL!

First option then - caught out and looking a bit silly.

 

[Meltingpot]

You have voted BNP in the past haven't you?

No. If I was trying to vote "fringe right" where I live it'd be UKIP.

 

[ViolentPanda]

It was based on a french comedy iirc.

Joly's "The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesqueiu".

 

[faux pas]

Jesus, you're even nicking my phraseology!! Is nothing sacred?

You own the phrase 'don't flatter yourself'! Wow,I didn't know that, lol.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Because they realised that Icke being banned from some places ( as you said) was correct whether the ban was later lifted or not. They're now going to argue that you must show that it was loads of places.

That's exactly what I'm expecting, anyways.

 

[TruXta]

You own the phrase 'don't flatter yourself'! Wow,I didn't know that, lol.

Oi, you wanted proof of contradictions didn't you? How convenient that you're not replying to my point about the moon being both a hologram and a hollow space station then. Still waiting...

 

[Random]

How can I be 'caught out' if I've never claimed to know anything about it in the first place?

Well now you do know something about it, after all the posts about the Protocols on this thread. What do you think now?

 

[ViolentPanda]

You own the phrase 'don't flatter yourself'! Wow,I didn't know that, lol.

Have I claimed that I own it?
No, I'm remarking on the fact that you used it only after I did.

Do at least try to make your flailings relevant.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Waffen SS?

Insert obligatory "uniforms by Hugo Boss" message here

 

[MellySingsDoom]

How can I be 'caught out' if I've never claimed to know anything about it in the first place? Don't flatter yourselves. So I talk about whether the claim that the moon is a hologram and the claim that it has bases on it is in fact a contradiction or not, and then the next thing you know I'm being hounded about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion! ROFL!

Boo hoo hoo hoo.

 

[TruXta]

Insert obligatory "uniforms by Hugo Boss" message here

Best uniforms evah, fact.

 

[frogwoman]

Joly's "The Dialogue in Hell Between Maciavelli and Montesqueiu".

that's the one.

 

[belboid]

as ripped off from Eugene Sue

 

[frogwoman]

Best uniforms evah, fact.

there's one drawback though.

 

[Roadkill]

My belief system is not based on The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or on David Icke - you just assumed it is. I just dared to discuss a couple of points as to whether his theories actually do contradict each other (not whether they're false) and whether he has ever actually made any anti-semitic or racist remarks. That doesn't make him my 'hero' or make me a 'jew hater' or any other ridiculous conclusions you all so willingly leap to despite your self-proclaimed superior 'critical faculties', 'logic' and 'research based' methods.

Contradictory or not, you've never answered the question of why anyone should take Icke - many of whose theories are plainly nonsensical - seriously.

 

[faux pas]

Oi, you wanted proof of contradictions didn't you? How convenient that you're not replying to my point about the moon being both a hologram and a hollow space station then. Still waiting...

The point was whether Icke contradicted himself, rather than whether his belief that the moon is a hologram is false. He could have the belief that the universe is holographic yet still use terms like 'hollow', 'sollid', 'liquid' to define those things as we experience them rather than as they are.

 

[butchersapron]

as ripped off from Eugene Sue

A few pages here and there, not the substantive content.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

faux pas in response to two of your posts I asked earlier on this thread what you thought race was, and whether would you say that the attribution of protection from depression is a positive one?

Any chance of a response?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[butchersapron]

The point was whether Icke contradicted himself, rather than whether his belief that the moon is a hologram is false. He could have the belief that the universe is holographic yet still use terms like 'hollow', 'sollid', 'liquid' to define those things as we experience them rather than as they are.

Yes, and truxta gave you a very good run down of why it's contradictory to claim that the moon is a hologram and can also support alien moon bases. As did xes.

 

[TruXta]

there's one drawback though.

Mitchell and Webb are shit and unfunny.