David Icke lecture @ Wembley Arena, October 2012
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xes
F.O.A.D
If you're interested, the farsight institute has a free download for what they call" scientific" RVing. It has loads of stuff to read, all the things you need to lern to do it, and a testers guide to testing fairly. It's probably about as scientific as you'll get on the subject, without being a part of the MJ12
TruXta
tired
If you're interested, the farsight institute has a free download for what they call" scientific" RVing. It has loads of stuff to read, all the things you need to lern to do it, and a testers guide to testing fairly. It's probably about as scientific as you'll get on the subject, without being a part of the MJ12
Pretty sure I looked into that stuff years ago. I can't be bothered with it anymore tbh.
I can't really say about all multi-dimensional aspects to life Icke refers to, and I try to be non-committal about a lot of the stuff most would simply denounce as crazy. I find it hard to be so certain as others, but if pushed, then no, at least the hollowed-out planetoid doesn't feel convincing.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
What does "feel convincing"?
Yes, it would be, I guess, but I don't know if it's true.
butchersapron
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That's being committed. And why?
xes
F.O.A.D
I had very much the same response to be fair. I tried to give it a go, but some of the relaxation techniques ment I needed to have clear nostrils, so it put me off, as I had a cold at the time
(how flakey is that!) Still got all the stuff tucked away on an external hard drive, who knows, when the world ends I may have some time to play with it properly.....Are you asking me why I don't like to commit to simply denouncing such theories as crazy?
butchersapron
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I'm suggsting that working hard not to do so is committed, not neutral or objective.
TruXta
tired
I had very much the same response to be fair. I tried to give it a go, but some of the relaxation techniques ment I needed to have clear nostrils, so it put me off, as I had a cold at the time
Not flakey at all - I had a mate who was getting serious about meditation but found that Scando winters and colds were not conducive to trying nasal breathing techniques.
Why? Much of what Icke comes out with plainly is crazy. Why be non-committal about it?
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Because in one chapter he goes on about who is in charge and where they are based, then in another chapter (completely separately) he talks about who is in charge and where they are based . . . and it's usually someone different and in a different place. There is no link to past theories in the book, just stand alone theories that are all a bit different. Nothing interconnects.
This book has nothing about the 'matrix' idea that has been on this thread, but why would the overlords running things from the holographic moon that is a hollow space ship (that wouldn't even have to be hidden as a moon, holographic or not, because it is beaming out a fake reality to everyone anyway), bother projecting a hollow earth and all the lizard people, only to hide them from the people in said projection?
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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The best bit about the book is maybe the 'WARNING' page before the first chapter.
"WARNING! There is an enormous amount of challenging information in this book. Please do not read if you are dependent on your present belief system, or you feel you cannot cope emotionally with what is really happening in this world."
"WARNING! There is an enormous amount of challenging information in this book. Please do not read if you are dependent on your present belief system, or you feel you cannot cope emotionally with what is really happening in this world."
So what, even if it IS 'committed'? I said I was non-committal about such theories, which doesn't mean I'm non-committal about commitment. If I try to be non-committal about these things it's not an attempt to be dead-centre neutral, but rather, because I recognise that I don't really know for sure.
butchersapron
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I think it says an enormous amount about you and about your critical faculties.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
but periods are proven to be affected by the moon. could that happen if the moon was a hologram or was artificially created? i somehow doubt it
What does?
butchersapron
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Your principled refusal not to say that crazy things are crazy. It speaks volumes about what you consider to be acceptable evidence, logic and argument.
TruXta
tired
Periods aren't real either. It's turtles all the way down.
I'm not saying 'crazy things' are not 'crazy'. I'm saying that we shouldn't be so sure to denounce such things as 'crazy', as most of us (apart from you apparently) can't really be absolutely sure they are.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Nice touch with the 'us'. Too late.
No, most people recognise crazy ideas a as crazy - based on min standards of what counts as proper evidence, what counts as proper logic and what counts as proper argument. Which is exactly why you already conceded that these ideas as seen by most people as 'crazy'. But not you.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
Are they?
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
I don't know tbh. From a cursory google, it seems the jury is still out.
I guess there's a lot of evidence that wouldn't support a lot of these ideas, but of course, you make the further jump to claim to know for sure. Think that speaks volumes about how narrow your mind is.
TruXta
tired
There's having an open mind and then there's having a hole in your head. Do we know for sure that the moon isn't a hologram or hollow? Yes, yes we do.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
By narrow you mean sane and with standards for judging truth claims based on critical interrogation of evidence logic and argument. That you consciously try to avoid such standards speaks - in turn - buckets.
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