Dance troupe Diversity's Black Lives Matter performance receives 24,000 complaints

[D'wards]

Racist cunt in Racist cunt shocker

I think he has just accepted his role as terrible prick and is doubling down now - getting into it

Jim Davidson sparks Twitter fury with racist YouTube rant

Jim Davidson, 66, said 'the Asian community who have big families are taking no notice' of coronavirus restrictions and are living in 'a bubble of 300 in a f****** house'.

mol.im

 

[Ax^]

*ponders

how many of the 24000 people who complained also get upset when they make a dodgy comment or joke which does not go down well

and make the exasperated comment "well someone is always going to be offended"

 

[Ax^]

Racist cunt in Racist cunt shocker

I think he has just accepted his role as terrible prick and is doubling down now - getting into it

Jim Davidson sparks Twitter fury with racist YouTube rant

Jim Davidson, 66, said 'the Asian community who have big families are taking no notice' of coronavirus restrictions and are living in 'a bubble of 300 in a f****** house'.

mol.im

he got an Autumn ufo tour date schedule coming along.. is desperately trying to get people to remember who the fuck he is

 

[Magnus McGinty]

sounds a lot like your saying people standing up against the racism they experience are only making it worse for themselves because racists are wrongly interpreting it as being "AGAINST white identity/culture".

The funny thing is, some of the cops involved with the death of George Floyd could be considered BAME. So why is it being racialised in this way? Surely the starting point, if that was it, is racist cops vs marginalised black people rather than all this white privileged shit all over again.

 

[Ax^]

because you more likely to be shot dead by a cop in the united states if you are black...

it about cop culture..

 

[D'wards]

The funny thing is, some of the cops involved with the death of George Floyd could be considered BAME. So why is it being racialised in this way? Surely the starting point, if that was it, is racist cops vs marginalised black people rather than all this white privileged shit all over again.

There was a big mural to a hero black cop defaced with ACAB and i think DEFUND THE POLICE in America so I think the whole white supremacy/privilege thing is more of a sub issue. Loads of non-white police in America.

 

[D'wards]

There was a big mural to a hero black cop defaced with ACAB and i think DEFUND THE POLICE in America so I think the whole white supremacy/privilege thing is more of a sub issue. Loads of non-white police in America.

Mural of slain Philadelphia Police Sgt. Robert Wilson III vandalized with graffiti

The search is on for the person who vandalized a mural in West Philadelphia that honors a slain Philadelphia police sergeant.

6abc.com

 

[Yossarian]

Why should Black people have to find terms to describe systemic racism that are more palatable for white people?

 

[8ball]

because you more likely to be shot dead by a cop in the united states if you are black...

it about cop culture..

You are also far more likely to be shot by a non-cop in the US if you are black....

Edit: (... than if you are white)

Can’t believe some people are so hard of thinking that I needed to make the above edit

 

[Ax^]

you more likely to be shot by a non cop being any race in america


your more like to shoot yourself

it part of Americas dumb love for guns saying that

they don't tend to play the other types of people to serve and protect the community mind

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Why should Black people have to find terms to describe systemic racism that are more palatable for white people?

My argument isn’t about what is palatable. Surely the position of any genuine anti-racist/fascist is to oppose racial division wherever those arguments are made? And that means along with Tommy Robinson being wrong for painting all Muslims to be ISIS, it’s equally unhelpful to paint anyone else the same including, (gasp) white people who have done no wrong?
I’m at a loss as to why this is apparently complicated.

 

[Reno]

Why should Black people have to find terms to describe systemic racism that are more palatable for white people?

It's not the term that is being argued against, but the fact that BLM is part of identity politics.

There are aspects of BLM which are/were good and necessary but identity politics is the biggest gift liberals/progressive have handed to the right. If you feel uneasy about identity politics, then you should feel uneasy about aspects of BLM. Identity politics thrives on division via a victim hierarchy and the logical fallacy that lived experience automatically makes the opinion of a member of the oppressed group the only right one. Identity politics doesn't bring understanding and unity, it just creates culture wars were both sides dig their heels in further.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

It's not painting white people as inherently doing wrong, it's asking them to consider why they're not the ones being shot by the police.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

It's not painting white people as inherently doing wrong, it's asking them to consider why they're not the ones being shot by the police.

But white people do get shot by the police. And the army. Or is NI too far back in peoples memories?

 

[Ax^]

My argument isn’t about what is palatable. Surely the position of any genuine anti-racist/fascist is to oppose racial division wherever those arguments are made? And that means along with Tommy Robinson being wrong for painting all Muslims to be ISIS, it’s equally unhelpful to paint anyone else the same including, (gasp) white people who have done no wrong?
I’m at a loss as to why this is apparently complicated.

Might take a view of it like, Whilst you don't consider yourself or the people you know as part of the problem

it still exist

as can be seen by the amount of people protesting about it and highlight its message worldwide

Have not seen any black matter protester labelling all white people as anything, more highlight problems with the police and the Justice system

 

[D'wards]

Because the police consider everyone they pull over or move to arrest could be a gun toting cop killer, which is much more likely in the good ol US of A.

The whole thing is a symptom of the rampant gun culture

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Or perhaps too close to home to consider?

 

[Ax^]

Because the police consider everyone they pull over or move to arrest could be a gun toting cop killer, which is much more likely in the good ol US of A.

The whole thing is a symptom of the rampant gun culture

saying that if you are black you statistically more chance to be shot whilst this situation plays out

 

[Ax^]

Or perhaps too close to home to consider?

I don't find a group of male dancers taking time on a fucking show like BGT as offensive

if it upsets you then you should take a fucking look at yourself

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

But white people do get shot by the police. And the army. Or is NI too far back in peoples memories?

NI has nothing to do with this. Black Lives Matter now. That's it. It doesn't exclude anything else.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

saying that if you are black you statistically more chance to be shot whilst this situation plays out

In the United States, yes. What about everywhere else?

 

[Ax^]

But white people do get shot by the police. And the army. Or is NI too far back in peoples memories?

aye i remember it and the british press and public getting the idea that the ones getting shot were terrorist bastards who deserved it

 

[Magnus McGinty]

NI has nothing to do with this. Black Lives Matter now. That's it. It doesn't exclude anything else.

Great. But where do they matter? Do they matter in Equatorial Guinea?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

In the United States, yes. What about everywhere else?

What about everywhere else? This is getting towards the "but why don't we help our homeless veterans instead of refugees" level of argument. It's not a zero sum game.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

What about everywhere else? This is getting towards the "but why don't we help our homeless veterans instead of refugees" level of argument. It's not a zero sum game.

I agree though, with you most probably. What annoys me is that the argument is against white people for being lucky not to be shot, rather than constructions of power. The House of Saud aren't White. Neither are the rulers of China, North Korea, Iran or the Philippines. Yet I've got to wear some guilt badge? Fuck off, like.

 

[8ball]

What about everywhere else? This is getting towards the "but why don't we help our homeless veterans instead of refugees" level of argument. It's not a zero sum game.

If you called your movement “homeless refugees matter”, then it would be reasonable for people to question you if you appeared to be highly selective in which homeless refugees merited your attention.

 

[Petcha]

I think some credit should be given to the producers of BGT and the executives at ITV who presumably would have had to sign off on this. As stupid as that sounds.

I highly doubt the BBC would.

 

[Ax^]

i'm actually disappointed in this thread

and i've been involved in some train wrecks

 

[Magnus McGinty]

i'm actually disappointed in this thread

and i've been involved in some train wrecks

It's disappointing that as much as everyone wants me to be making right wing arguments, I haven't been.

 

[8ball]

I think some credit should be given to the producers of BGT and the executives at ITV who presumably would have had to sign off on this. As stupid as that sounds.

I highly doubt the BBC would.

Been trying to avoid watching it, partly because I hate contemporary dance (if that’s what it is, I also avoid ITV), and partly because it will likely make me despise 24,000 people when I don’t really have the energy, but your comment is making me feel like I need more context.