cupid_stunt
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Says someone who has never had the misfortune of watching some of the 'acts' on BGT.
Dance troupe Diversity's Black Lives Matter performance receives 24,000 complaints
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Says someone who has never had the misfortune of watching some of the 'acts' on BGT.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I like seeing long term urbs return to the fold
Yes. Hopefully the author won’t mind.
The Rhodes Less Travelled
For me, the current campaign to remove a statue of Cecil Rhodes from outside Oriel College in Oxford High Street and the similar targeting of statues of British imperialists and slave traders elsew…
stuartcraft.politics.blog
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Sadly i have found over the years that the talent Britain's got rarely finds its way onto that misnamed show
editor
hiraethified
Some good points in there, but it appears to be far more about the loose collection of people who formed the Rhodes Must Fall campaign rather than a singular critique of BLM, no?Yes. Hopefully the author won’t mind.
The Rhodes Less Travelled
For me, the current campaign to remove a statue of Cecil Rhodes from outside Oriel College in Oxford High Street and the similar targeting of statues of British imperialists and slave traders elsew…
He has another interesting article which is a more broad swipe.
Black Lives Matter – A Trojan Horse for Conservative, Black Nationalism?
There comes a time when silence is betrayal. -Martin Luther King As someone with a strong commitment and a track record, on and off the estate, of fighting for the interests of the working class (w…
stuartcraft.politics.blog
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
There’s a whole thread on Crafts crass views in p&p, where it would actually be relevant.Yes. Hopefully the author won’t mind.
The Rhodes Less Travelled
For me, the current campaign to remove a statue of Cecil Rhodes from outside Oriel College in Oxford High Street and the similar targeting of statues of British imperialists and slave traders elsew…
8ball
#notallmuslims
No views on that, then?
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
How is BLM a vehicle for nationalism? That doesn't make sense. Do you mean because the dance routine also included a union jack? That's because the routine was about 2020 in the UK.
I said there were progressive arguments against BLM and provided them on request. I can imagine you would take umbrage with your shit politics but his arguments hold water for me.
I didn’t criticise the dance routine. I enjoyed it.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Arguments against BLM I'm sure exist. Not a single person who complained about this dance routine on a Saturday evening entertainment show was making one. Not a single person.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
And I said take them somewhere relevant not in a thread about this dance routine. Pretty basic.
that you then ‘backed’ up your argument with a quote from a minor ex-councillor putting forward quite reactionary and crude views is another matter.
Not sure what is reactionary about his views (he actually argues against reactionary views and does so consistently) but the editor of this site requested me to do something and I responded.
How snotty, pulling rank here? Can you detail the actions that you have done in your community vs the actions of this ‘minor ex-councillor’ ?
scifisam
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Then where does the nationalist thing come from? I'm genuinely asking and don't think you're being a massive racist or anything like that - I don't get how you think it's nationalist.
BLM =/= Diversity.
I took myself off Facebook too bc how many so called progressives were banging on about white privilege. Fuck me. Talk about doing the far right’s leg work for them. I felt physically sick.
scifisam
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That doesn't make your point at all. How is BLM a vehicle for nationalism? That just doesn't make sense.
Did you read any of the links I posted? Well meaning liberals love promoting identity politics as a means of explaining victims vs perpetrators but it promotes exactly the same thing that the far right does by division through race. Look, I can’t be bothered arguing about it. But it may lead to places you don’t expect.
scifisam
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I was asking what you thought, not what people you linked to think.
And you're still not making any sense unless you're actually claiming that saying black lives matter is divisive. The only people it divides are those who think black lives matter and those who don't.
And since you watched the dance routine, you'd see that they showed that - it was a mixed troupe, and lived up to its name.
A curious bystander merely has to look at the dominant arguments - Tommy Robinson on one side arguing FOR white identity/culture, BLM on the other arguing AGAINST white identity/culture and make their decision on where they stand based on that.
How sad, and frankly, terrifying.
How sad, and frankly, terrifying.
ska invita
back on the other side
Is that what you think BLM are arguing? I missed that bit
It’s how the argument is being interpreted. You probably missed that bit too.
ska invita
back on the other side
ah ... interpreted ... by who exactly? racists?
No. By those who we don’t want divided further by politics that does so, even if well intentioned.
Anyway. Good luck with it man. I know you’re on the right side even if you don’t realise you’re aiding the wrong one.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Eh
Mate, I can't explain any more than I have and I'm beyond caring now. Have a nice week/weekend.
ska invita
back on the other side
sounds a lot like your saying people standing up against the racism they experience are only making it worse for themselves because racists are wrongly interpreting it as being "AGAINST white identity/culture".
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
But BLM isn't arguing against "white culture" - unless white culture means killing black people.
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