Cyclist Deliberately Smashes Car Window Over Baby

[Spymaster]

How many people were injured? How many ambulances were needed? Was the car a write off? How much damage was caused? Compared to many of the road rage incidents that take place every year, this was indeed a very minor incident. Oh, but wait! A cyclist was involved therefore it's automatically a MAJOR STORY!

Do you really not get it?

 

[editor]

Surely the (quite justifiable IMO) outrage and discussion this event has ignited demonstrates how rare cyclists 'Going full Ronnie' actually is - and quite rightly, they should be lauded as such.

Indeed. It's normally drivers dishing out the verbals/violence

UK retains road rage title
The UK is still the road rage capital of the world, according to latest figures.

Nearly nine in 10 UK drivers said they had been road rage victims at least once, a survey has found.

Road rage had been experienced more than 10 times, 20% of those interviewed said, with more than 70% committing the offence themselves.

The latest statistics backed up a recent Gallup poll which showed Britain was the leading country in the world for road rage, with 80.4% of UK drivers being victims of it.

Of those who admitted committing road rage to motoring magazine Max Power, three in five said they felt "fine" about it, adding that victims "deserved it".

UK retains road rage title

 

[editor]

And it's carrying on:

More than 80 per cent of UK drivers have been a victim of road rage, according to a new survey.

The research, commissioned by online car buying site Carwow, found that in nearly half of those cases victims were driven at aggressively, while five per cent reported that they had been physically attacked, and four per cent claimed their car had been damaged as a result of road rage.

Amazingly, one in five respondents admitted to having got out of their car to confront someone.

Carwow’s research, which involved a survey of 1,000 UK drivers, also shows that 74 per cent of respondents blame the bad driving of others for causing road rage, while 30 per cent said they find other road users too slow. Six per cent claimed they have suffered road rage after another driver got angry at them.

Survey reveals worrying road rage statistics

 

[Spymaster]

you wouldn't check your baby was ok before anything else, obviously take a picture.

Of course. What makes you think she didn't do that? Fortunately the baby stayed asleep through the incident. Her main mistake was not to photograph the attacker first.

 

[rover07]

Starting a violent argument using a vehicle is bad enough but doing it when you have a baby with you!! What were they thinking?

 

[Spymaster]

It's normally drivers dishing out the verbals/violence

Aaaaaand here we go again!

Bloke smashes car window with baby on board ...... LET'S TALK ABOUT NASTY DRIVERS THOUGH!

 

[rover07]

The dopey husband shouldn't have been driving in heavy traffic if he's still a learner and lacking road sense.

 

[editor]

Aaaaaand here we go again!

Bloke smashes car window with baby on board ...... LET'S TALK ABOUT NASTY DRIVERS THOUGH!

No one was hurt. I'm not even sure that the baby was touched by any glass despite your hyperbolic squealing.

If you want stories that are really worth getting outraged about, there's plenty to choose from:

'Road rage attacker made me lose my baby' says victim of drunk driver
http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/...ammed-driver/story-26734547-detail/story.html
http://www.harlowstar.co.uk/Driver-...rous-driving/story-22117577-detail/story.html

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The dopey husband shouldn't have been driving in heavy traffic if he's still a learner and lacking road sense.

We all have to learn somehow. I took my test during rush hour in Hayes. Barely made it two miles in an hour...

 

[IC3D]

The dopey husband shouldn't have been driving in heavy traffic if he's still a learner and lacking road sense.

With a baby and a woman in the car! It should be illegal to carry babies in a car when you are a learner, its madness.

 

[rover07]

We all have to learn somehow. I took my test during rush hour in Hayes. Barely made it two miles in an hour...

YBy the time you take your test you should be competent but this guy nearly ran over a cyclist.

 

[editor]

With a baby and a woman in the car! It should be illegal to carry babies in a car when you are a learner, its madness.

That does seem a particularly daft thing to do, especially in a Monday morning rush hour.

 

[Spymaster]

No one was hurt.

"No one was hurt, no one was hurt, no one was hurt!!!!!"

"It's minor. No one was hurt, no one was hurt!"

If a driver got out of his car and smashed up the cycle of a woman with a child on the back, would you still be squealing "no one was hurt ... minor incident"?

Because if you did, it would make you a fucking idiot.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

YBy the time you take your test you should be competent but this guy nearly ran over a cyclist.

As I said, we all have to learn somehow. Had the cyclist been subject to some form of testing involving compulsory reading of the Highway Code he may have been prepared for the foibles of a driver displaying L plates.

 

[Spymaster]

It should be illegal to carry babies in a car when you are a learner, its madness.

I actually don't disagree with this.

 

[Spymaster]

.... this guy nearly ran over a cyclist.

Of course he did!

 

[8den]

"No one was hurt, no one was hurt, no one was hurt!!!!!"

"It's minor. No one was hurt, no one was hurt!"

If a driver got out of his car and smashed up the cycle of a woman with a child on the back, would you still be squealing "no one was hurt ... minor incident"? Because if you did, it would make you a fucking idiot.

No but if he suggested this was proof all car owners are "evil"

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I actually don't disagree with this.

tbf I thought it was! Seems it is only during the test that the baby must be elsewhere.

 

[editor]

"No one was hurt, no one was hurt, no one was hurt!!!!!"

"It's minor. No one was hurt, no one was hurt!"

I think you've lost the plot.

 

[Thora]

If the child's other parent is the one supervising you as a learner, how else are you supposed to practice than with the child in the car?

Anyway, "some nutter might smash the kid's window" is not really part of the risk assessment. Some nutter could just as easily try to hurt your kid if you were a pedestrian.

 

[rover07]

With a baby and a woman in the car! It should be illegal to carry babies in a car when you are a learner, its madness.

If ythey are going to start road raging and shouting abuse at passers by then yeah maybe social services should look into their childs safety and welfare.

 

[Spymaster]

I think you've lost the plot.

Ahh, there we go.

More diagnosis of mental problems. You like doing that don't you?

How about answering the question?

If a driver got out of his car and smashed up the cycle of a woman with a child on the back, would you still be squealing "no one was hurt ... minor incident"?

 

[editor]

If the child's other parent is the one supervising you as a learner, how else are you supposed to practice than with the child in the car?

Anyway, "some nutter might smash the kid's window" is not really part of the risk assessment. Some nutter could just as easily try to hurt your kid if you were a pedestrian.

I really don't think it's advisable to have a small child in a car when someone is learning how to drive, particularly in a London early morning rush hour. It's stressful enough trying to learn when there's traffic all around, but having a crying baby on-board as well can't be a good thing for the nerves/attention.

 

[Spymaster]

I really don't think it's advisable to have a small child in a car when someone is learning how to drive, particularly in a London early morning rush hour. It's stressful enough trying to learn when there's traffic all around, but having a crying baby on-board as well can't be a good thing for the nerves/attention.

But if a driver got out of his car and smashed up the cycle of a woman with a child on the back (without hurting it) would you still be squealing "no one was hurt ... minor incident"?

 

[BigTom]

Indeed. It's normally drivers dishing out the verbals/violence

Cyclists dish out plenty of verbals to drivers when they do something dangerous, I know I've done it (and gestures even more often) - more likely to do it on my bike than when I'm driving because I don't feel threatened when driving anywhere near as often as I do when cycling. I do try to keep conversations civil and polite though because I actually want drivers to consider their actions and the danger they've presented to me and if you go in all billy big bollocks you'll just make them defensive and won't get anywhere.
The whole road rage thing isn't about walking or cycling or driving, it's about dicks being dicks. Bet this cyclist will rage if they are driving too.

 

[Thora]

I really don't think it's advisable to have a small child in a car when someone is learning how to drive, particularly in a London early morning rush hour. It's stressful enough trying to learn when there's traffic all around, but having a crying baby on-board as well can't be a good thing for the nerves.

The baby was sleeping, not crying. Anyway, there's not much difference between being just before or just after your test in terms of driving with children or in traffic.

 

[rover07]

If the child's other parent is the one supervising you as a learner, how else are you supposed to practice than with the child in the car?

You don't.

The qualified driver should be fully supervising the learner. Not looking round to tend to the child, texting or shouting abuse at cyclists.

 

[editor]

If a driver got out of his car and smashed up the cycle of a woman with a child on the back, would you still be squealing "no one was hurt ... minor incident"?

That comparison doesn't even make sense. The equivalent would be the cyclist pushing the driver out of the car and on to the pavement and then going into the car to smash it up.

Breaking the window was one swift - and stupid - act. To get out of you car, manhandle and push the cyclist and baby off their bike and then set about smashing it up would involve a far longer and more considered course of action .

 

[Spymaster]

Cyclists dish out plenty of verbals to drivers when they do something dangerous, I know I've done it (and gestures even more often) - more likely to do it on my bike than when I'm driving because I don't feel threatened when driving anywhere near as often as I do when cycling. I do try to keep conversations civil and polite though because I actually want drivers to consider their actions and the danger they've presented to me and if you go in all billy big bollocks you'll just make them defensive and won't get anywhere.
The whole road rage thing isn't about walking or cycling or driving, it's about dicks being dicks. Bet this cyclist will rage if they are driving too.

Yep.

 

[editor]

You don't.

The qualified driver should be fully supervising the learner. Not looking round to tend to the child, texting or shouting abuse at cyclists.

Totally agree.