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[Guineveretoo]

Is Croydon bankrupt? Croydon 'cannot guarantee' avoiding bankruptcy

Yes. Yes, it is.

The Chief Executive has just fallen on her sword. London Councils have stepped in to try and help Croydon sort its finances out. It is sacking around 400 staff, if not more. A debt of something like £1.5 billion.

So yes, that sounds pretty much like bankruptcy.

 

[Dan U]

Is Croydon bankrupt? Croydon 'cannot guarantee' avoiding bankruptcy

Under normal circumstances, yes.

Govt have quietly relaxed rules on issuing S114 notice as they fear a glut of councils going to the wall.

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Yes. Yes, it is.

The Chief Executive has just fallen on her sword. London Councils have stepped in to try and help Croydon sort its finances out. It is sacking around 400 staff, if not more. A debt of something like £65 million.

So yes, that sounds pretty much like bankruptcy.

The debt is 1.5bn

The 65 million is the additional in year revenue pressure due to Covid - the gap between what it has cost/lost and got from govt.

In places like Birmingham it's 200m. Leeds is 100m. Wiltshire is 30m iirc.

 

[D'wards]

I've noticed a couple or three tents up Shirley Hills recently in the kind of undergrowth.

Whilst I can see the attraction of it if you were made homeless over sleeping in a doorway, I can't help feeling its a bit secluded and there are some terrible arseholes about who like to duff in and terrorise the homeless.

 

[hash tag]

Lots of talk on news today about small councils being merged to become regional councils, which is a twist on a theme. Croydon council to be merged into a much larger surrey council?

 

[Dan U]

Lots of talk on news today about small councils being merged to become regional councils, which is a twist on a theme. Croydon council to be merged into a much larger surrey council?

No chance of that. Croydon is already a single tier council and its embedded in the London structure. Plus it's health footprint is south west London (CCGs in the 6 SW London boroughs are merging to 1)

Surrey wants to go to one big unitary but hopefully it ends up as 4 (if it goes that way at all)

 

[Guineveretoo]

Under normal circumstances, yes.

Govt have quietly relaxed rules on issuing S114 notice as they fear a glut of councils going to the wall.

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The debt is 1.5bn

The 65 million is the additional in year revenue pressure due to Covid - the gap between what it has cost/lost and got from govt.

In places like Birmingham it's 200m. Leeds is 100m. Wiltshire is 30m iirc.

Yes, I thought it was - that is what I put initially and then thought maybe I had misremembered. I just edited it back to 1.5 billion.

And yes, I know it is not technically bankrupt, but it might as well be. It is shocking. There are lots of worried people in Croydon at the moment. I saw someone asking on a facebook group earlier what would happen to them as Council tenants if the Council is declared bankrupt.

 

[Guineveretoo]

No chance of that. Croydon is already a single tier council and its embedded in the London structure. Plus it's health footprint is south west London (CCGs in the 6 SW London boroughs are merging to 1)

Surrey wants to go to one big unitary but hopefully it ends up as 4 (if it goes that way at all)

Croydon is a London Borough....

 

[Guineveretoo]

Lots of talk on news today about small councils being merged to become regional councils, which is a twist on a theme. Croydon council to be merged into a much larger surrey council?

As above - Croydon is a London Borough. So none of that applies. They are just an incompetent one.

 

[Maggot]

Just been reading about the Croydon Poltergeist, a famous case in the 1930s.

The housewife, the ghost hunter and the poltergeist

In 1938, 34-year-old Alma Fielding reported objects mysteriously flying around her home. Eighty years on, Kate Summerscale, author of true crime classic The Suspicions of Mr Whicher, set out to investigate the unexplained case of the Croydon poltergeist

www.theguardian.com

 

[hash tag]

I see a policeman has just been shot and killed at Croydon custody centre. Early days but wonder how someone got a gun in there

 

[D'wards]

I see a policeman has just been shot and killed at Croydon custody centre. Early days but wonder how someone got a gun in there

I didn't know there was a custody centre there, but I very very rarely venture past M&S these days.
Is it where Mr Cad was?

 

[GarveyLives]

Tram crash victims’ families criticise delays over inquest

Croydon tram crash: Safety concerns remain two years on

9 November 2016: Lest We Forget​

This is very disturbing and distressing news for those who were involved in, or impacted by, this incident:

Driver of crashed tram ‘too unwell’ to give evidence at inquest

It is not even clear whether or not the individual concerned is still driving trams.

 

[Leafster]

Following discussions on another thread I thought it might be a good idea to post this here and I don't remember it being mentioned.

It looks like there's a major redevelopment of Taberner House and the gardens to be known as "The Queen's Quarter".

HUB | Projects | Queen's Quarter
The fifth major collaboration between HUB and social impact investor Bridges Fund Management, the scheme will deliver 513 homes and the revitalisation of the well-loved park; The Queen's Gardens.

www.hubgroup.co.uk

He's a handy pdf: https://www.hubgroup.co.uk/wp-conte...ner-House-site-The-Queens-Gardens-LOW-RES.pdf

I haven't had a chance to look at it in any detail yet.

 

[oryx]

Haven't been that way for a while (have a slight interest as I used to work in Taberner House) but that looks like one helluva ugly development!

A shame about Queens Gardens.

 

[D'wards]

It's official. We're bankrupt.

Wonder what this means in practical terms for us living in the Borough

Croydon council goes bust and freezes spending as Covid costs bite - CityAM

Croydon council has become the first London borough to buckle under the weight of the pandemic, as it today filed a notice declaring it virtually “bankrupt”. In a letter to councillors seen by City A.M, Croydon’s finance director Lisa Taylor outlined “serious issues” facing the borough...

www.cityam.com

 

[flypanam]

It's official. We're bankrupt.

Wonder what this means in practical terms for us living in the Borough

Croydon council goes bust and freezes spending as Covid costs bite - CityAM

Croydon council has become the first London borough to buckle under the weight of the pandemic, as it today filed a notice declaring it virtually “bankrupt”. In a letter to councillors seen by City A.M, Croydon’s finance director Lisa Taylor outlined “serious issues” facing the borough...

www.cityam.com

I wonder how much austerity, outsourcing, and PFI have contributed to this? Can't imagine any amount of hired change management consultants is going to help the situation.

 

[brogdale]

(not very enlightening) Guardian piece today:

 

[GarveyLives]

Alex Domingo has been banned from going to certain parts of Croydon:

 

[D'wards]

 

[Maggot]

Coughlans are now doing a foot-long vegan sausage roll. That should help see me through lockdown.

 

[Leafster]

Coughlans are now doing a foot-long vegan sausage roll. That should help see me through lockdown.

I saw a promotional photo of it but it didn't look very appetising. It better taste good!

 

[D'wards]

My pal's next door neighbours is Mr Coughlan .

In the face of overwhelming competition from Greggs they are moving right into the vegan market.
I think the high majority of their products are vegan now

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

He covers a lot of the wandle walk I do but obviously veers off around Hackbridge, probably around and through the nature reserve.

I had a crack at a bit of the wandle walk today. Went for a run and found myself in Beddington Park so attempted to run the wandle walk home. Bit awkward and made a bit of a mistake along the way. Worst bit was that I have perhaps over exerted myself running over the last couple of days and though my stamina is fine, (feel like I could go on forever) my legs totally gave out a couple of miles from home.
Might try the whole thing up to Fulham when my muscles regrow.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

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Only just saw this. R.I.P.
Wondered what he was up to.
Answer = Nothing.

 

[Kev424242]

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Croydon legend Bernard the Reggae King is alive and well, say friends

Family friends confirmed Croydon legend Bernard was alive after rumours of his death spread yesterday.

www.swlondoner.co.uk

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Wut?

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Croydon legend Bernard the Reggae King is alive and well, say friends

Family friends confirmed Croydon legend Bernard was alive after rumours of his death spread yesterday.

www.swlondoner.co.uk

What is his 'tribute wall' on the high street? The council pictures of local residents in vacant shop premises?

 

[Kev424242]

What is his 'tribute wall' on the high street? The council pictures of local residents in vacant shop premises?

No idea. I haven't been into Central for the best part of a year now, as far as I can recall. I'm making do with a weekly shop at the new Lidl on Whitehorse Road for now.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

No idea. I haven't been into Central for the best part of a year now, as far as I can recall. I'm making do with a weekly shop at the new Lidl on Whitehorse Road for now.

I mentioned it because there are no 'walls' as such on the high Street and the only thing I could think of were the council's series of giant council community posters featuring local residents. I'm assuming the one featuring bernard near WHSmith is his 'tribute wall', despite not being a tribute or a wall.


Also, new Lidl!!!! I have to check that out. I only do church at at the moment (8am) as I am slightly wary of going to the big one in West Croydon.

 

[Kev424242]

I mentioned it because there are no 'walls' as such on the high Street and the only thing I could think of were the council's series of giant council community posters featuring local residents. I'm assuming the one featuring bernard near WHSmith is his 'tribute wall', despite not being a tribute or a wall.


Also, new Lidl!!!! I have to check that out. I only do church at at the moment (8am) as I am slightly wary of going to the big one in West Croydon.

I have been pleasantly surprised at how quiet it's been on my visits. It feels relatively safe to me. I usually go to the Tesco in Thornton Heath but I'm not risking it at the moment.