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Meant to post about this last week but I went on a walking tour of Croydon last week organised as part of the public engagement for the new Fair Field/College Green (delete according to preference) site.

Was led by John Grindrod, a Croydon born social historian (I guess you'd call him) and author of two excellent books that feature Croydon, Concretopia and Outskirts.

Was a potted history of the various post war architectural gems in Croydon and was great.

My favourite factoid was that Corinthian House has no right angles and the mosaics on the floor outside Voyager House.

John is a really nice guy as well. Very engaging and friendly.

Can only get one pic to upload for some reason..
He is good. I went to a talk he gave when Outskirts came out and really enjoyed it.
 
Bit of a bummer. I guess it will be happening to quite a few shops. I have no idea why they thought a new shopping centre was a good idea when both Centrale and Whitgift have loads and loads of empty units.
Can't say I shopped at Debenhams much, but the lift was fun.
 
Is this really a fair reflection of West Croydon? Shocking
Yes and no. West Croydon usually has lots of groups of young men hanging about outside shops which us fairly intimidating. Theres occasional obvious issues with fights. The police are often around. There have been murders in the area but I'm not sure it's any worse on that front than central or East Croydon. The article jumps from talking about West Croydon to Croydon as a whole and back again. I don't think it's that clear.
 
Isn't most of the trouble Thornton Heath overflow? West Croydon's not a big population centre in its own right.
 
East Croydon Station to move? :eek:
Not moving very far. I'm not sure I see the point if the main aim is to build a load of flyovers and unders at selhurst junction.
And then what happens out the other end of Croydon? won't the bottle neck move down to purley? And even though it's a rather grand project, would ever be enough? Something much more fundamental needs to happen.

I know it's not on the same subject really, but I so wish cycleways had been constructed beside all the old canal rail routes. That would be so dreamy.
 
To move the station, if only a few feet, is massive. Not sure which bridge will need moving...George Street or Addiscombe Road ones. I guess they missed an opportunity when they sold off all that land next door to the station.

PS have experienced many issues with peds and fishing types when cycling tow path in the last.
 
To move the station, if only a few feet, is massive. Not sure which bridge will need moving...George Street or Addiscombe Road ones. I guess they missed an opportunity when they sold off all that land next door to the station.

PS have experienced many issues with peds and fishing types when cycling tow path in the last.
If you follow the link to the consultation document it says it's Windmill Bridge (Addiscombe Rd) which will need to be replaced. Even then, with Gloucester Rd tight up against the railway line on one side it's going to be a tight squeeze to get the extra width for the new tracks.
 
From memory on one side there is a tall sheltered housing block, the other small commercial units, the other two corners a playground and shops?
 
If you follow the link to the consultation document it says it's Windmill Bridge (Addiscombe Rd) which will need to be replaced. Even then, with Gloucester Rd tight up against the railway line on one side it's going to be a tight squeeze to get the extra width for the new tracks.

I see, makes no mention of that in the first part, and I still can't see that they have a lot of space to work with there on the 'actual' bottle neck bit without knocking down some residential houses and smashing up Gloucester Road. . . unless the bottle neck is actually up on the selhurst bit, but that's always looked kind of OK, they always stop after that waiting to get in the tight bit around the children's play park.
I know moving the station only a short way is huge. I just don't get how it will help in any meaningful way.
 
From memory on one side there is a tall sheltered housing block, the other small commercial units, the other two corners a playground and shops?
I haven't been around there for several years but I remember the playground and small tower block. Is the Windmill Pub still there, anyone know?
 
From memory on one side there is a tall sheltered housing block, the other small commercial units, the other two corners a playground and shops?
Even of they levelled the park there are two or three places where peoples houses would need to be destroyed on each side, there are so many issues.
 
I haven't been around there for several years but I remember the playground and small tower block. Is the Windmill Pub still there, anyone know?
I used to live just off Gloucester Road. It would give me the willies if I still did.
Have a look on google satellite maps. The real issue isn't anything they do in the selhurst depot area unless they do something serious on that bit behind cross road (which I nearly bought a house on) and behind freemasons road.
 
I used to live just off Gloucester Road. It would give me the willies if I still did.
Have a look on google satellite maps. The real issue isn't anything they do in the selhurst depot area unless they do something serious on that bit behind cross road (which I nearly bought a house on) and behind freemasons road.
I've just looked on google maps. I'd forgotten about Cross Road (I don't think I ever knew its name)
 
This is 16 year-old Louis Johnson ...

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... on Monday 27 January 2020, he was stabbed to death shortly after 4.30 p.m. at East Croydon station on his way home to his mother in South Norwood.

Friends said the teenager, who was wearing a tag at the time he was killed, had once been 'badly behaved' but was getting his life back on track.

Earlier on the day of his killing, Louis had been attacked at 11.00 a.m. A 16-year-old friend, who gave her name as Ashanti from Catford, said Louis had told her of the first attack, adding: 'We know he was scared for his life and he knew he was going to lose his life.'

The second, fatal, attack followed a youth offending team meeting in Battersea, where staff offered him a £50 Tesco voucher if he was home with his mother by 6.00 p.m.

He was supposed to take a taxi but decided to get the train home.

He reached East Croydon station at around 4.30pm and was ambushed while crossing a footbridge connecting two platforms.

A 16-year-old boy has now been arrested in Balham by detectives investigating the fatal stabbing.




Anyone with information should contact British Transport Police via text on 61016 or by calling 0800 405 040 and quoting reference 395 of 27/01/2020. Crimestoppers can also be called anonymously on 0800 555 111.


A bizarre turn of events is reported here:

Lambeth Metropolitan Police officers raid the home of murdered teenager, Louis Johnson
 
Are parking charges still suspended all across Croydon? I heard they were back in March, but I can't see anything on the Council website apart form one hour bays near the centre to encourage shopping.
 
It started again yesterday
Great timing. I found buried on the website that it actually started on the 26th of may. Not very clear. I only have one actual parking meter thing in my road, and apparently that was the only thing that mentioned that there was a suspension. Most people use those ringo phone thing or the website. There is no way of knowing for most people that the parking suspension has been lifted. Mind you, they didn't really advertise that it was in place either.
 
A mate has just sent me this introduction to a documentary about the abuse at Shirley Oaks children's home. It is an introduction and it's grim
 
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