Croydon - nightlife, accommodation, things to do and general chat
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GarveyLives
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... looks like it's Goodbye to them ...
... and Hello to him ...
"So yeah" ...
Hipsterdom is alive and thriving at £8 per pint in Surrey Street
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Books, not bombs
I see bookings are being taken to the newly refurbished Fairfield Halls.
One of the openers is Janet Street Porter
Guaranteed to bring the house down.
What's On - Fairfield Halls
One of the openers is Janet Street Porter
Guaranteed to bring the house down.What's On - Fairfield Halls
Fuck that. Go see the refurbished Arnhem Foyer and a Windrush exhibition Windrush: Portrait of a Generation to open at Fairfield Hall
Callie
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Oh the Croydon retail outlet village? Yes a couple of months ago I think the council locked it all down.
Some of the concession business within have been helped into new premises but none had access to any of their stuck or staff belongings or anything for a couple of week.
The centre is fucked. Westfield ain't going to happen.
Some of the concession business within have been helped into new premises but none had access to any of their stuck or staff belongings or anything for a couple of week.
The centre is fucked. Westfield ain't going to happen.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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I'm not sure what I actually want to happen in the centre of Croydon, but it sure is looking more and more dismal. It's very visibly far worse than when I first moved here about 15 years ago. The mess, the run down buildings, empty units and boarded up shops, the homelessness. Something feels very mismanaged somewhere, or maybe it's a microcosm for the effects Tory rule and austerity.
Callie
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Yeah certainly not just Croydon but I bet a lot of investment has been held back because of Westfield and many businesses have gone already because of closures and the fact Westfield would have destroyed the town centre if it was going ahead.
Things have changed, people have changed. Build some more fancy flats instead
Things have changed, people have changed. Build some more fancy flats instead
It's all to do with Westfield not happening. Many of the traders in allders and elsewhere in Whitgift etc were on short leases timed to end when the CPO kicked in on various sites and development work was going to kick in.
There is a plan for quite a few retailers to move in to Centrale while Whitgift gets developed first and many of the 'Lower cost' retailers would decide what to do.
Westfield is delayed again so many of the short term leases in lower cost shops aren't renewing, because footfall is down and its all uncertain, and the whole thing is dying on its arse.
The word I've heard is until John Lewis signs up formally as the other anchor to M and S no one will press go on the development. Given their event results this seems further away.
On the plus side quite a few of the St Georges Walk retailers have found other sites around the area.
It's basically some weird development blight until Westfield happens or not.
There is a plan for quite a few retailers to move in to Centrale while Whitgift gets developed first and many of the 'Lower cost' retailers would decide what to do.
Westfield is delayed again so many of the short term leases in lower cost shops aren't renewing, because footfall is down and its all uncertain, and the whole thing is dying on its arse.
The word I've heard is until John Lewis signs up formally as the other anchor to M and S no one will press go on the development. Given their event results this seems further away.
On the plus side quite a few of the St Georges Walk retailers have found other sites around the area.
It's basically some weird development blight until Westfield happens or not.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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It's just a very depressing mess that just gets worse to look at. I bet it was ace back in the Terry and June and Greyhound days.
Callie
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It'd be nice if they thought about making the high street ...different? More outside open space/greenery, activities rather than shops?,Restaurants with outside space places like playnation games, ludoquist, live music, theatre etc
Places to meet, talk, socialise. Things for kids to do, things for old people to do and everything in between
*Dreams* oh and affordable stuff not once a year for someone's birthday stuff
Places to meet, talk, socialise. Things for kids to do, things for old people to do and everything in between
*Dreams* oh and affordable stuff not once a year for someone's birthday stuff
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Books, not bombs
I think St Georges Walk was a bit of a revelation when it first opened and then the Whitgift; wow. The Whitgift was not covered from the outset and one of the first UK Mac's opened in there.
It was all very different to now. It was certainly a destination when it first opened. Cars still drove through the high street and there were three major department stores...Deb's, Allder's and
just down the road was Grants. I cannot remember if Grants was still opened when the Whitgift was opened or the Whitgift signaled the end for Grants.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Wasn't that the original plan for the developers of the area around the station? But no. Luxury flats, no theatre and that temporary shithole boxpark.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Talking of Croydon, I want to take the wife and daughter out somewhere yummy tonight. They want dim sum, but all I can think of is that place by wing tip (no) or that place up on the hill with a view of croydon (popular with doggers apparently). Any ideas?
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Well it's not Croydon, but in terms of accessible by rail in south London Dragon Castle is fantastic.
The place inside Wing Yip is fine, but they're not going to serve dim sum in the evening. Too traditional for that. The place is very Chinatown, rude service included.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Sadly a bit further than I am willing to go. Be quicker just to go out in central london.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Ah, but it is better and cheaper than many in central London. That's the draw.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Now looking like a few weeks based on an Instagram from Banksy confirming it is genuine
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Why Croydon, is Banksy Frim Croydon I wonder. I see Dan U has posted a link, here's another
BBC News - Banksy shop featuring Stormzy stab vest appears in Croydon
Banksy shop appears in Croydon town centre
BBC News - Banksy shop featuring Stormzy stab vest appears in Croydon
Banksy shop appears in Croydon town centre
Stormzy is from Croydon. I can't help thinking that is a hook, plus the Home Office is based in Croydon where lots of asylum seekers and general immigrants have to present themselves and that's a theme of some of the work. Some of it is a direct pop at the Home Office.
There is also a theme around the police and riots, linked to the Stormzy stab vest.
For example Croydon Council is the lead London Borough for processing (horrible word) unaccompanied asylum seeker children and distributing them across the other London boroughs. This is solely because of the Home Office presence in the Borough
There is also a theme around the police and riots, linked to the Stormzy stab vest.
For example Croydon Council is the lead London Borough for processing (horrible word) unaccompanied asylum seeker children and distributing them across the other London boroughs. This is solely because of the Home Office presence in the Borough
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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They said it started Saturday, but I didn't see it when I went past. I'll have a morning jog past tomorrow before work.
The area around there (and a lot around Croydon central) really feels like it's going downhill fast. Putting orange paving slabs down telling you where Fairfield Halls and east Croydon station are doesn't change that.
The area around there (and a lot around Croydon central) really feels like it's going downhill fast. Putting orange paving slabs down telling you where Fairfield Halls and east Croydon station are doesn't change that.
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its pretty good- just been down- pop along if you have time
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