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COVID-19 in America

Yeah, I have been wondering what his approach is going to be. Or what it can be. What can he mandate federally? Give the widespread virus, denial of it, and refusal to take any mitigation measures, it's really going to be a hard job.
 
Well he also doesn’t actually start presidenting until Jan 20th.

Couple of things to note... Testing in the us has been increasing. Though it seems to happen in chunks. And goes up and down. But last couple of days 1.5m, whereas previously fluctuated between 1m and 1.3m. However hospital admissions rising steadily. Possibly at an increasing rate, though hard to tell at a glance... if they continue as they are, they may be at their highest ever in a week.

Data from Atlantic’s tracking project... which is much better viewed on an actual computer.

 
Two of Donald Trump’s billionaire donors have contracted Covid-19 months after downplaying the risk of the disease to their employees.

Richard and Liz Uihlein, conservative megadonors who own the Uline packaging company based in Wisconsin and are two of the Republican party’s most significant financial backers, told employees on Wednesday that they had contracted the disease after being “around people with Covid”.

A spokesman for the family could not immediately respond to questions about whether the couple attended a White House election night party last week for the president’s financial donors. At that event at least five individuals were infected, including Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff. Brian Jack, the White House political director, and Healy Baumgardner, a former White House aide, have also reportedly tested positive following attendance at the party.

 
Bidens not going to get in control , its way past the point of effective contact tracing , trump will see this as a win .
 
It's been a mess in the US over the last few months, but the UK has now taken a lead again over the US on deaths per 1m population. :(

Bit of Friday speculation:

I think the US has always had some er... advantages... Much lower use of public transport, extensive use of air conditioning in offices, schools etc, more dispersed residential districts (of course it has been devastating in cities with more densely populated areas). I do wonder what the picture in US universities is like... Have no handle on that at all. Though thinking about I suspect the heavily campus-focused way that things work over there would probably limit spread to wider communities.
 
Seriously?

We were when I looked yesterday, but I think worldometers updates the US figure more than once a day as different states report at different times, it's now showing we are
equal to the US on 754 deaths per million.

I suspect we'll sadly overtake them again, as we are averaging over 400 deaths per day, adjusted for population it's equal to about 1,800, whereas the US is currently averaging 1,100.

But, hopefully 'lockdown v2' will see our numbers starting to drop, whereas there's will probably continue to go up.
 
Bit of Friday speculation:

I think the US has always had some er... advantages... Much lower use of public transport, extensive use of air conditioning in offices, schools etc, more dispersed residential districts (of course it has been devastating in cities with more densely populated areas). I do wonder what the picture in US universities is like... Have no handle on that at all. Though thinking about I suspect the heavily campus-focused way that things work over there would probably limit spread to wider communities.

I think those advantages might have limited transmission a little in the spring and summer but much less so as cold weather sets in - a lot of infections seem to be happening at small get-togethers inside with friends or extended families.

The US might actually be at a disadvantage here, since car ownership per capita is almost twice the rate of the UK and it's routine for people to drive 50 miles or more to meet friends and family for an evening, especially in states like South Dakota where infection rates are now highest.
 
I think those advantages might have limited transmission a little in the spring and summer but much less so as cold weather sets in - a lot of infections seem to be happening at small get-togethers inside with friends or extended families.

The US might actually be at a disadvantage here, since car ownership per capita is almost twice the rate of the UK and it's routine for people to drive 50 miles or more to meet friends and family for an evening, especially in states like South Dakota where infection rates are now highest.

Yeah you have a point...

Johns Hopkins have a graph that gives rate of positive tests as a percentage of total tests, which should help interpret the raw numbers (as I mentioned, US testing rates vary massively). It doesn't exactly make things look much better though. Increasing percentage of tests being positive indicates that more are being missed.


e2a: Their map on positive rates is also useful. South Dakota has positives at 56.5%, which is really not good.
 
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they're at it again

During a presentation to the Provo Municipal Council on Tuesday, Intermountain Utah Valley Hospital administrator Kyle Hansen reported that staff members have dealt with a number of conspiracy theorists trying to gain access to the hospital.

The hospital has also been dealing with calls from the general public surrounding statistics that have been seen in the media as well as questions surrounding hospital or ICU capacity.

Those trying to gain access to the hospital believe that what they are being told is inaccurate and their goal is to videotape or visualize it firsthand, according to Hansen.

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Instances have been identified on social media where people have claimed to have gained access without video evidence of actually being in the hospital. One instance Hansen saw included a person videotaping themselves while stating that, “This is all a lie,” or, “This hospital is not busy at all.”


 
they're at it again

During a presentation to the Provo Municipal Council on Tuesday, Intermountain Utah Valley Hospital administrator Kyle Hansen reported that staff members have dealt with a number of conspiracy theorists trying to gain access to the hospital.

The hospital has also been dealing with calls from the general public surrounding statistics that have been seen in the media as well as questions surrounding hospital or ICU capacity.

Those trying to gain access to the hospital believe that what they are being told is inaccurate and their goal is to videotape or visualize it firsthand, according to Hansen.

...

Instances have been identified on social media where people have claimed to have gained access without video evidence of actually being in the hospital. One instance Hansen saw included a person videotaping themselves while stating that, “This is all a lie,” or, “This hospital is not busy at all.”


Let them in
let them catch it
and then keep them out.
 
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