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COVID-19 in America

Have I mentioned how much I'd like to see the back of our governor, Pete Ricketts (Ameritrade billionaire and owner of the Chicago Cubs baseball team)? Here's another reason to want to see our cut-rate Lex Luther gone:

LINCOLN — Jobless workers and struggling families in Nebraska are having to make do without two federally funded coronavirus relief programs.

Nebraska is one of two states that have not yet opted to give unemployed workers an extra $300 a week in federal unemployment aid. The other state, South Dakota, has refused the money.

Gov. Pete Ricketts said officials are reviewing President Donald Trump’s executive order that made the money available to states.
In addition, Nebraska is the only state not to continue emergency supplemental food assistance beyond July.

State Sen. Adam Morfeld of Lincoln said the situation sends a message to unemployed Nebraskans “that their state is not doing the bare minimum to ensure their family does not go hungry.”
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I have a friend who is building Little Free Pantries. There's now twelve of them spaced across the city. Each one empties out three times per day. I'm sure that as more are built, they too will empty out several times per day. There's plenty of hunger here that could be helped if the governor just did just the bare minimum.
 
C&P from Beeb (not linkable).

I don't understand. Why ?


US won't join WHO-led vaccine efforts
Testing for a Covid-19 vaccine
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The Trump administration has indicated that it will not participate in international coalition efforts to find and distribute a vaccine for Covid-19 because the World Health Organization (WHO) is involved.
The Washington Post newspaper reported that the White House would not join 172 other countries participating in a WHO-led initiative to "ensure equitable access to safe and effective vaccines, once they are licensed and approved".
White House spokesman Judd Deere said in a statement that the US would "continue to engage our international partners to ensure we defeat the virus, but we will not be constrained by multilateral organisations influenced by the corrupt World Health Organization and China".
US President Donald Trump has attacked the WHO over its handling of the coronavirus outbreak, accusing it of being biased towards China in how it issued its guidance.
 
StoneRoad said:
C&P from Beeb (not linkable).

I don't understand. Why ?


US won't join WHO-led vaccine efforts
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ReutersCopyright: Reuters
The Trump administration has indicated that it will not participate in international coalition efforts to find and distribute a vaccine for Covid-19 because the World Health Organization (WHO) is involved.
The Washington Post newspaper reported that the White House would not join 172 other countries participating in a WHO-led initiative to "ensure equitable access to safe and effective vaccines, once they are licensed and approved".
White House spokesman Judd Deere said in a statement that the US would "continue to engage our international partners to ensure we defeat the virus, but we will not be constrained by multilateral organisations influenced by the corrupt World Health Organization and China".
US President Donald Trump has attacked the WHO over its handling of the coronavirus outbreak, accusing it of being biased towards China in how it issued its guidance.
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Definitely a China thing I'd say, the Ethiopian head is seen as a China place-man and they think the WHO was too quick to absolve China of blame, while blame is of course trump's game.
 
The good news is that the 7-day average daily death toll, which hit over 1,100 a month ago, continues to slowly drop, and as of yesterday is just under 900. However, there's concerns about what will happened over the long weekend, with it being Labour Day on Monday, after both Memorial Day in May and July Fourth holidays were blamed for spikes in new cases.

But, this prediction is scary, based on a model from the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, which has tended to be fairly accurate in the past, if anything a little on the conservative side, according to CNN.

More than 410,000 people in the US could die from the coronavirus by January 1, more than doubling the current death toll, a new model often cited by top health officials predicted Friday. That would mean 224,000 more lives lost in the US over the next four months.

Near-universal mask use could cut the number of projected additional fatalities by more than half, according to the model from the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. But it also warns the cumulative death toll could be much higher by the new year if all restrictions are eased. "If a herd immunity strategy is pursued, meaning no further government intervention is taken from now to Jan 1st, the death toll could increase to 620,000," according to IHME's briefing.

The death rate could reach nearly 3,000 a day by December, an unprecedented number, due in part to "declining vigilance of the public," the IHME expects. For now, the model points to declining mask use in some regions from peak usage in early August.
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How did she follow the rules when such businesses were not supposed to reopen at the time she was there? It was both a setup and Pelosi not following the rules as far as I can tell, although I may have some detail wrong and will be quite prepared to change my stance if I have.
 
cupid_stunt said:
But, this prediction is scary, based on a model from the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, which has tended to be fairly accurate in the past, if anything a little on the conservative side, according to CNN.
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There was a time when we often had reason to take the piss out of the IHME model, mostly because the maths used to predict the future downward curve was based on the initial upwards curve, so when the death rate fell more slowly than they rose in the first place, the model was way off. But that was quite a long time ago now and they since added all sorts of stuff relating to social distancing measures/masks etc to their model, and they have a lot more data now. I still expect there are severe limitations to this model, like most models, but it might be coping much better these days with the current situation in the USA. It is on my list of things to do to revaluate how well that model is doing in regards various countries.
 
elbows said:
There was a time when we often had reason to take the piss out of the IHME model, mostly because the maths used to predict the future downward curve was based on the initial upwards curve, so when the death rate fell more slowly than they rose in the first place, the model was way off. But that was quite a long time ago now and they since added all sorts of stuff relating to social distancing measures/masks etc to their model, and they have a lot more data now. I still expect there are severe limitations to this model, like most models, but it might be coping much better these days with the current situation in the USA. It is on my list of things to do to revaluate how well that model is doing in regards various countries.
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Twitter thread about this here



The jist seems to be that the large increase in deaths comes from taking into account the effects of seasonality in the model, based on previous seasonal variations in pneumonia mortality.
 
wemakeyousoundb said:
I think people complaining are more vocal usually but yes, I have finger cramp from scrolling through the eedjits
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I do wonder if there’s any ‘foreign influence’ stirring this pot, it’s an easy way to weaken/divide the USA. Or does that make me a conspiracy loon?

People are really running with this 6% thing, which is utter bollocks.

Needs another pile-in from the K-Pop lot I reckon!
 
As well as the ‘6%’ thing, I’m seeing people/bots quoting that it has ‘little or no effect’ on 99.04% of people. Where have they dug this shit up from, is it simply the percentage that haven‘t died or been in ICU? That‘s a fairly low barrier.
 
William of Walworth said:
I'd normally criticise centrists for their feeble politics, so can you explain them being Covid-deniers a bit more? :confused:
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Not denying it as such just minimising it and misrepresenting arguments etc, saying that anyone criticising government decisions and rhetoric such as 'herd immunity' is 'damaging public trust in a pandemic' among other things. I don't really want to derail this thread tbh.
 
frogwoman said:
Not denying it as such just minimising it and misrepresenting arguments etc, saying that anyone criticising government decisions and rhetoric such as 'herd immunity' is 'damaging public trust in a pandemic' among other things. I don't really want to derail this thread tbh.
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Very interesting -- maybe there'll get to be an opportunity to discuss all that on some different thread another time?
 
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