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COVID-19 in America

weltweit said:
Trump announced that they have ordered 180,000,000 face masks from 3M and he hopes they will be able to deliver.
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The company previously most famous for making post-it Notes. I hope those masks don't flutter gracefully off your face at critical clinical moments

 
there are so many COVID threads on Urban, we might as well start one on the USA
 
Read a depressing story that the Trump administration is continuing efforts to stop Cuba sending its doctors abroad to work even now. They use the reasoning that's it's exploiting the doctors as the state gets 90% of their wage but the idea they're motivated by worker protection hardly holds up. Apparently one of the biggest sources of foreign currency for Cuba.
 
Yossarian said:
- the Southern states have been among slowest to introduce stay-at-home orders, so those states might be getting a lot redder soon.
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not to mention that the southern states have the least amount of education, which may make compliance harder
 
New York and surrounds is the epicentre of US infection at the moment but New Orleans because of the more than a million people who went to the Mardi Gras, it is also a strong area for infection. And a lot of people left NY and went to Florida which pushed up their rates.

It seems finally Trump and the federal authorities are now supporting the states with extra PPE and associated kit, they must have a central stockpile. However China shipped 5,000 ventilators to NY yesterday, they should be there now.

Does anyone know about the state of shutdowns across the US? Or instructions on face masks?
 
Trump claims states have 'more ventilators than they need,' Business Insider investigates
Governors warned they face dire shortages of ventilators — but Trump claimed states have 'more ventilators than they need'
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"Shortages have lead to inflated requests. We have some states and areas that are just asking for far more than they need," Trump said Saturday.

Despite Trump's claims, governors say life-threatening shortages will force medical personnel to choose which patients get treatment.
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from Live Updates LIVE UPDATES: Trump claims states have 'more ventilators than they need,' Business Insider investigates the black market for face masks
 
A update page on CNN
The US: There are more than 312,000 recorded cases and nearly 8,500 people have died, with 1,344 of those reported on Saturday — the country's largest single-day death toll.
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Sarah Maslin Nir is a New York Times reporter who was covering the coronavirus pandemic before she tested positive herself.

"I was in bed for six days. Putting my phone to my ear, holding my hand up like that was exhausting," she told CNN today.
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She said the United States has less stringent guidelines on how long you have to quarantine after you test positive. In New York state, you can leave the house three days after your last symptom, Maslin Nir said.

"China requires two post symptomatic tests within 48 hours that show you have no coronavirus, and then 14 more days of quarantine. So I'm following China's guidelines and still considering myself quarantined," she said.
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from 05/04/2020 Coronavirus live updates: More than a million cases across the world - CNN

There are a lot of news pieces on this page, worth a browse.
 
Voley said:
I worry for America too. Spiralling infection rates, a heavily-armed population and an idiotic narcissist in charge. Just seems like a perfect storm. Really scary.
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Throw in a large sprinkling of unhinged conspiracy theories, huge poverty and all sorts of anti-government paranoia and it's one hell of an ugly mix. That fucking idiot trying to drive a locomotive into a hospital ship may only be the start.
 
New York forced to redistribute ventilators
A shortage of several hundred ventilators in New York City, the epicentre of the outbreak in the US, prompted Mr Cuomo to say that he will order the machines be taken from various parts of the state and give them to harder-hit areas.

Amid a deepening crisis, top health official Dr Anthony Fauci has said he believes all states should issue stay-at-home orders.
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"I don't understand why that's not happening," Dr Fauci told CNN on Thursday. "If you look at what's going on in this country, I just don't understand why we're not doing that."

"You've got to put your foot on the accelerator to bring that number down," he added, referring to infection and death rates.
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Surely that should be put your foot on the brakes not the accelerator .. ?
The governor said he would deploy the National Guard to enforce a new executive order giving the state authority to take and redistribute ventilators from hospitals and other healthcare institutions to facilities in parts of the state most urgently in need.

These institutions will either receive their supplies back or be reimbursed, he said.
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"I'm not going to let people die," Mr Cuomo said of the order.

Mr Cuomo said this week that New York will need nearly 37,000 ventilators for the "apex" of the state's outbreak, expected to hit at the end of April. Bill de Blasio, the New York City mayor, said the metropolis needs 400 additional ventilators by Sunday.
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from 03/04/2020 New York to redistribute ventilators amid shortage
 
And, on stay home orders:
At least 297 million Americans in 38 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico have been told to stay home. But the governors of 10 states have so far stopped short of asking all residents to remain indoors.

North Dakota, South Dakota, Arkansas, Iowa and Nebraska so far have no state-wide order urging people inside. "A targeted approach is what is working for us in Arkansas," said Governor Asa Hutchinson this week. "People are misled by this idea that this stay at home order is magical."
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Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds has argued: "I can't lock the state down... I can't lock everybody in their home."

Other states have left the decision to local officials while still refraining from any state-wide action. Residents in parts of Alabama, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Utah and Wyoming face some degree of stay home orders, issued by local authorities.
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Also from the BBC
 
editor said:
The Queen of Fucking Stupid in the car and the congregation of fuckwittery

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People hold beliefs that don't always hold up to scrutiny and they hold them firmly. I remember as a child having to pray every night to protect ourselves from a whole host of nasties. It must have worked, cos here I am, still alive!

The easiest way of stopping these people being a danger to themselves and others is to make sure the pastor shuts his germ barn and takes his services to the internet. Steep fines (much more than you'll rasie in a church service) will be like the power of the holy spirit for him. God hates loosing money
 
nogojones said:
People hold beliefs that don't always hold up to scrutiny and they hold them firmly. I remember as a child having to pray every night to protect ourselves from a whole host of nasties. It must have worked, cos here I am, still alive!

The easiest way of stopping these people being a danger to themselves and others is to make sure the pastor shuts his germ barn and takes his services to the internet. Steep fines (much more than you'll rasie in a church service) will be like the power of the holy spirit for him. God hates loosing money
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But pastors need $$$$$$$$$
 
My prediction is that by the end of this, China is going to own a far larger proportion of US interests than they did before. They got their outbreak under control (albeit also by lying about the numbers), and are now ready to swoop in and bail out/buy up struggling US industries hamstrung by their inept president and idiotic populace.
 
editor said:
The Queen of Fucking Stupid in the car and the congregation of fuckwittery

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I always wonder whether religious types actually believe in God rather than appreciating the community, sense of belonging and the chance of meeting a partner.
The ones interviewed here all looked like they believed in the god delusion apart from the pastor.
 
Voley said:
I worry for America too. Spiralling infection rates, a heavily-armed population and an idiotic narcissist in charge. Just seems like a perfect storm. Really scary.
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Add in the absence of universal health care. I fear for the poor of the US, particularly if this thing gets a further grip in the South. We saw how Hurricane Katrina fucked the poor there, and we currently see worrying signs about Louisiana's ability to cope. They are at least testing heavily now.
 
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