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COVID-19 in America

Teaboy said:
I'm finding the situation in some states very odd. They look like they are lifting lockdown before the peak, way before the peak. I'm confused as to why they bothered in the first place.
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Cargo cult science.

ETA: or, in Trump's case, cargo cunt science.
 
  • This is a little bit long - about 40 minutes - I'm now watching it for the second or third time, it's quite "watchable"
  • About the "Spanish Flu" - but you'll see why it could just as easily have been called "The Kansas Flu"
  • Very sobering indeed - 12 HOURS from healthy to dead was not uncommon
  • We're doing the same damn thing AGAIN - granted not on quite the same spectacular scale
  • <edit> from 23 minutes on - how to really REALLY fuck up - Philadelphia, does any of it sound familiar?
 
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Trump cares about NOTHING but himself and he's not even a good enough actor to be able to pretend otherwise. There is also a small ultra-rich elite that both doesn't care about the general population and is able to isolate itself from the consequences and has enormous power and influence. Add in a society that doesn't offer much if anything in the way of a public safety net, a substantial group that believes their magic sky fairy will protect them or they can shoot the virus and it's hardly surprising that the more rational voices are getting lost in the noise.
The USA is probably going to end up losing more people than the rest of the world put together at the end of this.
The thing is they talk about restarting the economy but if the US is still going through it as the rest of the world is able to actually start opening up, what happens to their economy if the rest of the world is trying to keep them in quarantine?
 
‘Stop throwing us bare bones’: US union activism surges amid coronavirus
Wed 6 May 2020
Activism spikes amid the pandemic nationwide as workers protest what they consider inadequate safety protections against Covid-19
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Armed citizens escort lawmaker into Michigan State Capitol
lansingcitypulse. May 6
After a hoard of armed and angry protesters swarmed Lansing last week, State Rep. Sarah Anthony brought some extra protection on her way to the State Capitol today.

At least three African Americans carrying large rifles escorted Anthony across Capitol Avenue earlier this morning so she could safely attend committee meetings without fear of intimidation. She said she didn’t necessarily request the help, but welcomed the extra security nonetheless.

“We were all just appalled by the lack of support and lack of security that I had, that other legislators had, and the fact that a lot of the demonstrators last week were adorning many racist, anti-Semitic signage. I think it just triggered a lot of folks, especially African Americans.”
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quimcunx said:
There is a podcast mini series called It could happen here. About how civil war could start in the USA. From last year. Interesting listen if you are into podcasts.

Saw a meme the other day:

America is a third world country in a Gucci belt.
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I don't see why another civil war couldn't happen there. They've never really fixed the scars from the first one and the same old fault lines are opening up again.
 
If you can't/won't fix a problem, cover it up:

NEBRASKA - Local health officials will no longer be able to report COVID-19 data from meat processing plants.

Governor Pete Ricketts said Wednesday that the state won't be releasing specific numbers of cases at meatpacking plants, saying it's a matter of privacy.

Some local health departments like the Elkhorn Logan Valley Public Health Department and Public Health Solutions had been providing updates on positive cases at plants in their district as they came in.
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northeast.newschannelnebraska.com

State no longer allowed to track processing plant data

Local health officials will no longer be able to report COVID-19 data from meat processing plants.
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This is nasty even for our Lex Luther wanna-be governor.

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My (extremely) unofficial count puts it at 28 deaths at the Grand Island plant alone.
 
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Giant Hospital Corporation Takes Advantage of Coronavirus to Fight Nurses’ Union Drive
May 6 2020
The largest hospital corporation in America, HCA Healthcare, is using the coronavirus pandemic to delay and undermine a union election for 1,600 nurses in North Carolina.

After nurses filed in March to hold an election, HCA Healthcare petitioned the National Labor Relations Board, or the NLRB, to delay the vote because of the pandemic. In the meantime, it hired professional union busters costing $400 an hour to conduct meetings inside Mission Hospital in Asheville, urging nurses to oppose joining a union.

And while the corporation stands to rake in $4.7 billion in CARES Act benefits, the number of coronavirus cases in North Carolina is steadily growing, and nurses say they had to fight for basic personal protective equipment, or PPE.
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“Instead of HCA using those resources and money and effort to prepare for Covid-19 and have proper PPE, they chose to put it into union busting instead,” said Sarah Kuhl, a registered nurse with Mission’s oncology research department.

“I feel like that put us significantly behind to being adequately prepared for Covid-19,” Kuhl said.
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Trump does see it as a war doesn't he. Particularly reopening the meat factories and the like for people without proper PPE or distancing.

Specifically WWI when they just kept sending people over the top to be replaced by more gun fodder when they were killed, while the generals sat in their safely virus-tested head offices a long way from the action.
 
two sheds said:
Trump does see it as a war doesn't he. Particularly reopening the meat factories and the like for people without proper PPE or distancing.

Specifically WWI when they just kept sending people over the top to be replaced by more gun fodder when they were killed, while the generals sat in their safely virus-tested head offices a long way from the action.
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Apart from the fact that a number of White House staff now have Covid-19.
 
A Third of Americans Didn't Pay Their Rent or Mortgage in May, Survey Says
May 7 2020
A lot of the people who were able to afford housing costs in April couldn't make the same payments in May.
As May 1 approached, fears began to spike among landlords that their tenants would not be able to pay rent. Millions of Americans had already not paid April rent, and that number was expected to rise in May, as more people ran through their meager savings and struggled with the consequences of layoffs, furloughs, and lost income.

Though it’s not easy to find hard data about exactly how many people in the U.S. couldn't or didn't pay May rent, a survey of 4,000 renters and homeowners from the real estate website ApartmentList found that nearly a third of them haven't fully paid May housing costs, with 22 percent saying they hadn't paid at all and 9 percent saying they had made a partial payment. The portion of people who made full rent or mortgage payments was just 69 percent, down from 76 percent in April, a difference driven by 10 percent more respondents saying they hadn't been able to make any payment at all.
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One small survey admittedly.
 
quimcunx said:
It was last year I listened. It all seems scarily plausible. Is there one which deals specifically with pandemic? I was sure there was but cant work out which to re listen.
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Only listened to the first one so far. I wonder if they'll do an updated version taking current CV events into account.
 
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