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COVID-19 in America

A grim but instructive experiment. Something close to forced exposure, and evidence against an idea that has been suggested by other data that many of us may be resistant to catching it, as a result perhaps of having had a related coronavirus cold in the past. Some of us may be partially resistant, but that's a fairly big sample size showing that in certain conditions nearly all of us can catch it.


See also: cruise ships.
 





I think Trump's presidency is the biggest hoax in America's history.



Bye...

Yeah, um, and by the way, bye bye.

Buh-bye Bubba.

Or, ja think you can buy your way out of this.


Prick.
 
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I think Trump's presidency is the biggest hoax in America's history.
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That’s the problem though. It’s not a hoax. This is real, the support for him is real. People really do genuinely feel and believe that he speaks for them. And he’s does , he actually does.Or leastways he speaks their mind,

Look. He’s yuge! Just yuge . People believe in him, like him, trust him, will definitely vote for him in November.

Even if they’ve lost family to Covid, maybe especially if they’ve lost out to Covid, they’ll vote vote for him.
 
Forget the Haircut Protesters. There's a Real Labor Movement Blossoming in America.
Esquire (really?) Apr 29, 2020




Nurses Say They Don't Want to Be Called Heroes During the Coronavirus Pandemic
April 28, 2020
"I don't need a compliment; I need safe staffing."



Why are teen vogue and esquire of all places doing real journalism?

I believe workers also shut down a JBS meatpacking plant in Grand Island, Nebraska on May 1. Its been a hotspot for Corona virus for at least the last month, with multiple deaths.
 
Some revised US modeling predict that the daily death total will be back up to around 3000 per day by June the 1st in the States and well into the 100,000 by the end of the year ..... Got to wonder what winter is going to bring
 
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What is wrong with the people in Michigan?

First, we had protests against lock down, complete with nazi uniforms and confederate flags.
Now, this


Munerlyn got into a verbal altercation with Sharmel Teague after telling Teague's daughter she needed a mask, according to the prosecutor's office. Surveillance video confirms the incident, Leyton said.

Sharmel Teague's daughter left the store, but "Teague began yelling at Munerlyn who then told her to leave the store and instructed a cashier not to serve her," the prosecutor's office said.

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Footage also shows that immediately after the altercation, the woman left in an SUV.

But about 20 minutes later, the SUV returned.

Two men -- identified as Bishop and Larry Teague -- entered the store, according to the statement. One of them yelled at Munerlyn about disrespecting his wife, Leyton said.

The other man, later identified as Bishop, then allegedly shot the security guard, the statement said.

The article mentioned this happen around the Flint area. This region has had problems with lead and other stuff coming through their water system.

Could the water be accountable for all this nonsense?
 
What is wrong with the people in Michigan?

First, we had protests against lock down, complete with nazi uniforms and confederate flags.
Now, this




The article mentioned this happen around the Flint area. This region has had problems with lead and other stuff coming through their water system.

Could the water be accountable for all this nonsense?

I honestly wonder what the hell kind of thought process - if any - goes on when people do this kind of thing.

1. "Grrr! Some security guard disrespected my wife! I'll be sure to go and confront him while armed with a deadly weapon! That'll be certain to resolve the situation and not escalate it unnecessarily!"

2. "Wow! This person isn't backing down! Don't they know I'm armed? The Second Amendment guarantees that I win all arguments in this way!"

3. "Oops! My trigger finger got itchy and now he is dead! How was I supposed to know that shooting people is generally lethal? There's no possible way I could have foreseen this going badly!"

I honestly don't get it. Do these people not realise that waving loaded guns around other people while being emotionally worked up at them introduces the possibility of either a negligent discharge, a humiliating public climb-down or a heat-of-the-moment homicide? How is any one of those scenarios supposed to help the gun-waver?
 
Some revised US modeling predict that the daily death total will be back up to around 3000 per day by June the 1st in the States and well into the 100,000 by the end of the year ..... Got to wonder what winter is going to bring

Some kind of revisionism from the Trump administration, no doubt. And a very unpleasant election.
 
On a more positive note, historic memory of Native American aid to Ireland in the 1840s has inspired a surge in solidarity with grass roots mutual aid group:
 
Some kind of revisionism from the Trump administration, no doubt. And a very unpleasant election.
Its almost as if its deliberate to give cause to pulling that election.

Trump was talking about carnage in 2016, an ambition come true

.if he does get kicked out in between the space when the investigations kick off, and the courts, he is going to instigate insurrection among his minions.

The next presidency is going to be thankless.
 
Some revised US modeling predict that the daily death total will be back up to around 3000 per day by June the 1st in the States and well into the 100,000 by the end of the year ..... Got to wonder what winter is going to bring

Trump gave remarks to the press on his way to visit the Honeywell factory in Arizona (who are making N95 masks) and said that America must re-open and the American people should think of themselves as warriors.

He also called a bunch of republicans ‘losers’.

 
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Is this even a bad thing? States can club together or organise in state, with something better and bypass trump control. Maybe.
In a rational place, a central body will oversee and coordinate, providing support while also relying on and encouraging individual states to formulate and manage tailor-made plans. Germany, say. Or Switzerland. That's basically how they work. The US could work like that. :hmm:

One thing US states don't have is the power to close their borders to other states.
 
In a rational place, a central body will oversee and coordinate, providing support while also relying on and encouraging individual states to formulate and manage tailor-made plans. Germany, say. Or Switzerland. That's basically how they work. The US could work like that. :hmm:

One thing US states don't have is the power to close their borders to other states.

Yes but trump. In theory the states are already clubbing together with a federal govt. But. Trump.
 
Yes but trump. In theory the states are already clubbing together with a federal govt. But. Trump.
Yeah. Bit like the states that have pledged to keep to the Kyoto protocols. Four more years of Trump could lead to some serious problems for the union, I think.
 
What is wrong with the people in Michigan?

First, we had protests against lock down, complete with nazi uniforms and confederate flags.
Now, this




The article mentioned this happen around the Flint area. This region has had problems with lead and other stuff coming through their water system.

Could the water be accountable for all this nonsense?


its a complex setup- Militis were all over the northen states at one point - Michigan however has been in a solid downward economic spiral for a couple of decades ( more probabaly ) and places like Detroit didnt help ease the fear of trouble on the horizon. Chuck in urban Black population memes, the relative disparity between male and femal earnings and a highish gun ownership rate ( hunting and ting) and you have the background for the militias to rise. I think their inflated media presence belies their actual numbers ( maybe purposefully ). Its hard to consider washington to be on your side when you have not seen any economic benefit for decades.The water issue is in there as well - the industrial / post industrial consequences of the states background. I feel they think of themselves as some kind of westward ho libettarian frontiers men, when this has long long gone and left them behind as the wilderness frontier moved westward. Yesterdays men. Or maybe Michigan is just overrepreseented with twats
 
its a complex setup- Militis were all over the northen states at one point - Michigan however has been in a solid downward economic spiral for a couple of decades ( more probabaly ) and places like Detroit didnt help ease the fear of trouble on the horizon. Chuck in urban Black population memes, the relative disparity between male and femal earnings and a highish gun ownership rate ( hunting and ting) and you have the background for the militias to rise. I think their inflated media presence belies their actual numbers ( maybe purposefully ). Its hard to consider washington to be on your side when you have not seen any economic benefit for decades.The water issue is in there as well - the industrial / post industrial consequences of the states background. I feel they think of themselves as some kind of westward ho libettarian frontiers men, when this has long long gone and left them behind as the wilderness frontier moved westward. Yesterdays men. Or maybe Michigan is just overrepreseented with twats

There may be a correlation with the lead in the water as well.
 
.......at least she figured out where the loops went ....

Pennsylvania just overtook New York on the daily body count and its back in the 2000's again .... I feel genuinely nervous for them , with the reopening , when some states are only just getting started on the climb ,and Trump actively contemplating shutting down the CV19 "task force" , putting a date out there ,only one month hence ....


What a shitshow
 
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Trump sez .."Americans are warriors , some people may be affected ,..... but we must reopen the economy ,...... It was the greatest the world has ever seen "

“They want to proclaim it over,
” says NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo "They have been looking to proclaim it over from day one right?…That is clear. But the virus doesn’t care…doesn’t listen. This is not a marketing situation”

Quite the political marketing experiment
 
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I'm finding the situation in some states very odd. They look like they are lifting lockdown before the peak, way before the peak. I'm confused as to why they bothered in the first place.
 
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